Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[osuka]

oh and check out this snipe

[Ausuka]

I mean I am willing to bus merlyn today - she broadly has the feeling of a townread I'm wrong about, sometimes I do incorrectly townread people who defend me. I also think scum often play d1 well and kind of lose steam over time and her recent play has been kind of bad?

The only thing is she is v/la so I don't think pushing there is going to do a lot currently.

[Ausuka]

It would also be funny if meuh tried to get merlyn killed and merlyn killed her in retaliation lmao

[Ausuka]

Looking through merlyn's iso again there is sort of a lack of organic reads progression which I associate with scum

Idk how to feel about umlauts recent posting because on a gut level it did feel kinda towny but I'm not sure how difficult it is for mafia to actually fake.

VOTE: Merlyn

I guess I will join this sorry frog friend

[Ausuka]

If the team is merlyn/sheep I will be very sad

[Datisi]

vote count 2.05

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-07-08 15:30:00).

yeet

Merlyn [3]:

Firebringer, Doctor Drew, Ausuka

Umlaut [2]:

Invisibility, sheepsaysmeep

Firebringer [2]:

Donempire

, Umlaut

osuka [1]:

Bingle

Bingle [1]:

osuka

Doctor Drew [1]:

Radical Rat

not voting [1]:

Merlyn

mod notes

Merlyn is v/la until the 5th
Umlaut is v/la until the 6th
this is a mod note.

flavour

[Umlaut]

Oh derp, yeah why would scum!Firebringer IC hunt and then shoot anyone but Don last night. I guess FB pretty much clear then.

VOTE: Merlyn

I could do this, I've been sort of gambler's-fallacying myself here since Merlyn was scum in our last/first game together but that's not actually a good reason not to vote her. Looking back at her d1 I am seeing a really likable and reasonable tone combined with not much actual contribution or hard reads. Not as convinced as FB but it's a good wagon.

[Radical Rat]

I'll hammer if the will is there, but I'll be grumpy about it

[Invisibility]

I would be down cuz she's a nullslot for me that was on the wagon though I'd like Merlyn to get off vla first lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

down but I prefer umlaut

I suppose I should talk about why umlaut someday

[sheepsaysmeep]

ok wait I did the iso I am ok to kill merlyn yeah

[Bingle]

I actually feel better about this the more “I’m willing but would prefer something else” posts we see. Like, that’s kind of the only stance scum can take about a partner that they can’t reasonably townread here.

[Bingle]

i feel like i can also rule out bingle as scum because i don't think he would go for meuh and more likely to shot at Donempire because i think he picked up on the same thing i did on Donempire giving himself away as IC day 1.

I mean i guess he could have copped him instead to confirm and shot at Meuh for being too townread or something. But seems a bit less likely and more likely wanted to push her? Ugh. Gonna stick to bingle town.

Fwiw, I saw the post, saw it as evidence of ic but not conclusive evidence and would definitely not have copped there. I would’ve copped you, rat or umlaut, because if town you’re great nks but I wouldn’t want to risk being wrong and killing a strong scum buddy. The cop is definitely a use on the next nk kind of thing.

[Bingle]

Oh derp, yeah why would scum!Firebringer IC hunt and then shoot anyone but Don last night. I guess FB pretty much clear then.

Devils advocate here because I don’t believe it’s the case, but it could have been because fire was trying to bait other scum to shoot the ic as a survival tactic and didn’t realize leaving the ic alive by both scum shooting there is actually a great for scum move N1.

I think given the brand of theory talk he had yesterday assuming fire would kill don as scum is pretty reasonable and if he is scum we can win regardless by hitting his partner even if he’s big braining here.

[osuka]

I actually feel better about this the more “I’m willing but would prefer something else” posts we see. Like, that’s kind of the only stance scum can take about a partner that they can’t reasonably townread here.

while i agree that with the two lover pairs alive it makes no sense to bus, it almost feels to me like scum needs to gamble a bit right? scum is pretty fucked and it's only d2, so i can actually see scum bussing a bit harder than the usual "compromiseable" non-read bullshit you'd usually get in a more normal situation

[osuka]

Oh derp, yeah why would scum!Firebringer IC hunt and then shoot anyone but Don last night. I guess FB pretty much clear then.

Devils advocate here because I don’t believe it’s the case, but it could have been because fire was trying to bait other scum to shoot the ic as a survival tactic and didn’t realize leaving the ic alive by both scum shooting there is actually a great for scum move N1.

I think given the brand of theory talk he had yesterday assuming fire would kill don as scum is pretty reasonable and if he is scum we can win regardless by hitting his partner even if he’s big braining here.

do you actually think firebringer is scum or are you just having an osuka moment? osuka moments are when you get convinced of someone's alignment way too early in the game only to realize later it was probably wrong

[Firebringer]

I mean I am willing to bus merlyn today -

DO IT

[Ausuka]

Winning the game is for nerds

[Firebringer]

aren't u a nerd tho

[Ausuka]

How dare you

[Bingle]

do you actually think firebringer is scum or are you just having an osuka moment? osuka moments are when you get convinced of someone's alignment way too early in the game only to realize later it was probably wrong

Do you know what Devil's advocate means? I'm arguing a case for Fire scum that I don't really believe because it is at least plausible. I personally think Fire is town.

[Merlyn]

Y'all. I am at the lake. I do not care about this game as much I do about being on a boat with beers rn. Go ahead and lim me if you want, but keep an eye on who decided to wagons roll on someone V/LA. That's where I'm going to be looking anyway should I live when I get back.

[Firebringer]

i take full credit for this wagon on u.
Inspect me all day

[osuka]

do you actually think firebringer is scum or are you just having an osuka moment? osuka moments are when you get convinced of someone's alignment way too early in the game only to realize later it was probably wrong

Do you know what Devil's advocate means? I'm arguing a case for Fire scum that I don't really believe because it is at least plausible. I personally think Fire is town.

i do but im clearly confused then

carry on

[Bingle]

I do not care about this game as much I do about being on a boat with beers rn

I read this as being on a boat with bears. Do not trust bears. They are wild animals and will fuck your day up.

In other news, I'm happy to give Merlyn a day or two to escape the large omnivores threatening her.