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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:19 pm

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I'm with furtive Roden is townier

I'm not voting karma because i think they're scum it's more because Roden doesnt strike me as scum
In post 984, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 980, Morning Tweet wrote: Someone other than Monkey describe what is making Roden your top choice
Roden has miles more discussion/meaningful reading around him over Curious. Day 1 I want to make sure our flip gives us good info, thus I want Roden out over Curious. The odds of hitting scum aren't high no matter where we vote and I feel a Roden vote progresses the game more than any other of the options floated.
That's just not a good reason if Roden is going to end up flipping town

Karma's post i dont agree with much ( A lot of early voting dynamics and wording reads and "Why would you post this?" reads) but calling me and OD bad theatre struck me as kind of decently though t out
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:25 pm

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In post 994, Roden wrote: No idea why people are so afraid of hunting down scum but whatever I guess

VOTE: Roden
Yes we're just gonna mostly ignore Greeting and Emperor (at least) ((and ppl also talk about practically everyone else too)) without pressuring them because 2 b o x e s o n l y and we are going to kill you becausse that whole debacle sucked up D1's informaaaationnn

i guess

But granted. We could just end up pushing more slots that we need more info on and end up make things worse. Esp with so little time left, I know

This sucks too though so /shrug

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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:30 pm

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In post 1000, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 984, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 980, Morning Tweet wrote: Someone other than Monkey describe what is making Roden your top choice
Roden has miles more discussion/meaningful reading around him over Curious. Day 1 I want to make sure our flip gives us good info, thus I want Roden out over Curious. The odds of hitting scum aren't high no matter where we vote and I feel a Roden vote progresses the game more than any other of the options floated.
That's just not a good reason if Roden is going to end up flipping town
Sure, but we don't know that do we? There very much *is* still the possibility of Roden flipping scum.
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:38 pm

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Yes. I'm not sure why Tweet thinks Roden's flipping town with utmost confidence here. It's not like Roden's displaying a uniquely town exit here.
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:22 pm

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In post 704, OopsieDaisy wrote: How come I'm a townlean now?
You are making a genuine effort to solve the game, and your inconsistencies in logic might have a disorganised town explanation. Especially since you have openly admitted to it. I have no willingness to vote you or flip you at this stage, hence why you're a townlean.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:23 pm

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In post 722, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 721, humaneatingmonkey wrote: okay thanks Watson

what do you make of Greeting asking a question that you had already answered?

i have an excuse. im playing on mobile right now.
but if he's voting you, he probably should have a good idea of where your head is right?
I think Greeting is scummy for treading water yeah.
How would you define "treading water"?
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:26 pm

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In post 736, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 735, OopsieDaisy wrote: But my issue is that it doesn't seem like this is out of character for Greeting as a player?
Nevermind, I decided to pick a town Greeting game off of his wiki page to ISO so I could check on this, went with Mini Norm 2262 and wow he was making some louder plays there. Now, it DID result in him getting voted out Day 1, so maybe there's an argument that over the past year Greeting has changed up his playstyle cause it wasn't reaping him rewards, but it's worth noting.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:32 pm

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I don't really feel like voting
Roden
to be fair. He doesn't sound any different than usual and I have played several times with him in various configurations (we were on a scumteam together once). I will hammer only if it gets to deadline and there is no alternative.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:34 pm

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Wait, is he at E-1 or has he been hammered?
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:44 pm

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In post 1003, humaneatingmonkey wrote: Yes. I'm not sure why Tweet thinks Roden's flipping town with utmost confidence here. It's not like Roden's displaying a uniquely town exit here.
I mean says you, im leaning town because Roden is usually flat as scum from what im seen

I guess if I were run up in this fashion as scum it'd be equally as frustrating though. Like, kind of a weirdly frustrating set of circumstances

Just because i dont think roden has been particularly scummy doesnt mean he cant be scum

So sure you're right i'm probably going a little too far I guess he could be scum

I'm probably going to keep voting curious though
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:44 pm

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Vote Count 1.7

Roden (6):
Klick, humaneatingmonkey, OopsieDaisy, clidd, Roden, Elements
curiouskarmadog (3):
Takutai, Morning Tweet, furtiveglance
Elements (1):
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Emperor flippyNips, curiouskarmadog


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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:45 pm

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In post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers
In post 968, geraintm wrote:
In post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers
Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last game
In post 969, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 968, geraintm wrote:
In post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers
Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last game
You gonna throw a vote onto one of the two leading wagons then?
In post 970, Elements wrote:
In post 968, geraintm wrote:
In post 966, OopsieDaisy wrote: And then we'd be forcing another claim through and that's not very poggers
Yep , dislike the endless stream of wagons that just help scum. See last game
Interesting comparison seeing how last game went down
Ah my pet scum team interacts. Good to see Daisy nk longer sees the need for a longer day, we're almost ready to kill the vanilla town of our choice.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:48 pm

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In post 989, OopsieDaisy wrote: Well here's the trying I was mentioning :]
Fluff you mean? I saw part of a curious town game some time ago and they seemed a pretty normal wallposter. Always interesting when someone is in love enough with meta and join date or something like that that they'll build entire reads and defenses off of that and nothing else.

Good way to fool yourself.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:49 pm

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In post 994, Roden wrote: No idea why people are so afraid of hunting down scum but whatever I guess

VOTE: Roden
Oh don't worry all the town here are in for a rude awakening.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:53 pm

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In post 997, Elements wrote: VOTE: Roden
In post 998, geraintm wrote:
In post 996, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Curiouskarmadog
I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....
Fragment of my pet team strike again, this time elements decides tk vote town Roden after monke's 'everyone just do what I say' post and geraintm, like oopsiedaisy, really doesn't want us voting Karma.

Going off of what oopsie and elements have been pushing for, if monke is town, this roden momentum is to make monke look very bad, as monke said. For instance, look at earlier elements wanting to lock the vote between Roden and monke.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:54 pm

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In post 999, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 998, geraintm wrote:
In post 996, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Curiouskarmadog
I have no idea the point of this post, it is going completely against the flow of the game, need to investigate it later I think....
I genuinely think Roden's townier. I don't have to agree with the perceived consensus...
Good furtive resist, if Roden flips town this post will make you look good.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:04 pm

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In post 988, curiouskarmadog wrote: As I said, these posts are mostly for me. Think of them as my personal notes. If I have an open question to someone, Ill bold. This/these post might be long, so if you want me to address something in particular from this post, cut and paste. Note, I like to watch votes...I like to read the motivations behinds votes and unvotes. it is where I catch scum....so thats why you see me focus on it.

PAGE 6, POST 128, Klick has Ele and me as town.
6, 130 Klick votes OD
6, 132 Ele votes OD
6, 137 Fur votes Tak (I don’t even recall who that is)
6, 139 HEM is asking about 2302, who cares this is a different game. You got eyes, you read it.
6, 146 HEM asks Klick why Ele is obvtown, NOW that is a good question.

Page 7 vote
Elements (4): curiouskarmadog, geraintm, Greeting, humaneatingmonkey
OopsieDaisy (2): Klick, Elements
geraintm (2): Morning Tweet, Takutai
Morning Tweet (1): OopsieDaisy
curiouskarmadog (1): Roden
Takutai (1): furtiveglance

Not voting (2): Emperor flippyNips, clidd

7, 152, OD sees the vote count and moves it to Ger (no reason)
7, 156-159, Clidd, like OD, fence on Ele, says Klicks votes are erratic (umm its early game), not a fan of HEH
7, 161 CLIDD USED THE TERM “TO BE HONEST”, personal scum indicator. Joins Ger wagon
7, 166 Clidd USED THE TERM “I CONFESS”…tee hee, strike 2
8, 182 HEH votes OD, because she move vote from Tweet (but there were no other votes there?) What kind of pressure do you think should have been there? (possible bold for follow up)
8, 188 MT votes Ele, reasons not great,, undecided on OD (did someone ask?)
8-9, HEH seems like he is scum hunting
9, 205, Roden (who is that?) thinks OD is self aware
9, 206, HEH feels being self aware is scummy. LOL, I disagree. Im very self aware. Wonder if that makes me scummy too?
9, 213 Ger says he “is the worst player to ever to wagon”….(YAWN), why post this?

10, 227 OD votes Tweet? Don’t like the reasoning.
10, 229, HEH is going to give her space?!?! What?!? that’s a weird statement
10, 230 OD “ILL BE HONEST”
10 (the exchange between OD is HEM is weird, not sure why)
10, 234 Ger has little interest in lim OD
11- MT suspicious of OD’s revote. (but doesn’t vote her)
11, 265 Fur votes Ger (no reason)
11, 267 HEM votes Tak (no reason) I guess tired of OD vote?
11, 268, OD thought my quietness was concerning (why is that, I literally posted 10 hours earlier same day).
11, 271 OD “ILL BE HONEST”
12, 281, 20 minutes later, OD votes me ( guess that concern was just TOO much)
12, 282, Immediately after Clidd votes me…
(jokes about timing). Were you concerned about how that vote looked is that why you edited? Wonder if HEM will think if that is self aware.

12, 287, Ele joins my wagon…lol.
12, 291, Roden confirm vote on me.
12, 295, HEM unvotes.
13- Greeting is in the game? States Clidd town, HEM town, No town read on OD
13, 311, Greeting questions Tweet about (255), good question.
13, 317, Tak unvotes, no revotes, no reasons. (318) Ele asks, posts a pic
13,320 EFN in the game? Doesn’t do anything.

Page 14 vote
curiouskarmadog (4): Roden, OopsieDaisy, clidd, Elements
Elements (3): curiouskarmadog, geraintm, Greeting
geraintm (1): furtiveglance
OopsieDaisy (1): Klick

Not voting (4): Emperor flippyNips, Morning Tweet, humaneatingmonkey, Takutai

14, 326 I come back. Amazed the game blew up 8 pages. I claim VT (had not read, no time to read before I left)
14, 328, Fur full read list, votes Clidd
14, 329, Fur thinks I am town.
14, 336 Tak Votes Fur, no reason (I DON’T LIKE THIS SLOT)
14, 337 OD unvote me, votes EFN.
I don’t like this vote, I mean if you thought I was scum at this point, why unvote after a VT claim? also why vote EFN? Nothing about this post is good.

14, 340, MT wants to know why I said Ill provide something D2, (because I was going to be gone when the day would have ended?)
14, 349 Tweet notes that EFN is playing similar to 2302…so why doesn’t OD votes of him on this same page stand out? (DONT LIKE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN TWEET AND OD, seems like theater)
15, OD – EFN answers OD question, OD asks another, then unvote immediate as an act of good will.
15, 361, Tak unvotes. (NO REASONS) (TAK IS VIG BAIT, that’s right, I am directing a vig…that’s right, I am also self aware.) (self aware comment made me laugh)


OKAY that’s the end of page 15……but I got to go…
Still a shit ton to read, so going to be real curious how I am still leading, but will see. Understand the bolded questions might get addressed in the pages after 15, if they do, ill read it there. if not, please answer. once I am done with the read...ill have more questions I am sure.
Ok this is for you but wow.

You could have talked to us.

I still think both wagons are vanilla but ill kill u cos im not wasting my team reading what seemed to me like an ultrabasic summation of what people do. Vanilla Roden I can at least work with even if Roden has blindspots, bad ones.

I see you are saying you don't like me at all. That's funny, next time the to talk with me, or anyone. Playstyle yes maybe but whatever. We're in this situation, you did choose to claim vt early. The people defending you sound like people who's looking at a one eye old dog and telling eveyone 'oh it's going to hunt so well.' You haven't, I can kill you. Same with Roden your choices are no elim or vote Roden here.

If you are scum I already have partners lined up for you, fewer with Roden.


I say we kill Karma if no one has the guts for a nolim.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:07 pm

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Roden's not yet hammered? Is scum team distancing from town flip or is scum team resisting? or is every scum already on the wagon?
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:08 pm

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UNVOTE:
Maybe not suddenly I want to hear more from karma on daisy. Daisy has been defendjng there and I want to know if this could be an informed defense.

I don't like the tone of karma's post and pairings like hem/karma will be considered.

But I'm still pretty sure both these wagons are town.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:09 pm

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In post 1017, humaneatingmonkey wrote: Roden's not yet hammered? Is scum team distancing from town flip or is scum team resisting? or is every scum already on the wagon?
Throw better shade for killing town monke at this point you have started to bore me. You started out so smooth too.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:11 pm

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He's been sitting on E-1 for a while now. It's not shade, it's something to think about.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:12 pm

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Everybody's been groaning about wanting the day to end and then this happens.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:12 pm

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VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I feel good at least killing town with tweet.
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:14 pm

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Interesting you think that's shade.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Tue Jul 04, 2023 7:15 pm

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In post 1021, humaneatingmonkey wrote: Everybody's been groaning about wanting the day to end and then this happens.
Yeah karma made a dump post and lurked right back and Roden is town. So i dont care right now there's two very very likely towsns, probably one or more scum voting Roden.

These eliminations have no value, at least killing karma i wont have to deal with dump posts.

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