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[Elements]

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[Elements]

I don't think I've ever seen a kill chosen motivated by framing someone

[Elements]

but that could be becuase I try to ignore kill analysis too much

[curiouskarmadog]

Or it's an inexperience thing..

Im not buying it . forum games or not, theory is theory. you KNOW how mafia games work. I dont know you well, but you are logical and can think through motivation. I dont think TownOD seriously thought..

VOTE: Greeting I'm still interested in this slot.

What motivation exists in order for Greeting to kill Takutai?

I get it, you want to put out there that you thought Tak had greeting on a town lock. But at the end, he did not. So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

[Elements]

So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

fwiw I don't

[Elements]

ckd, do you have more forum experience or irl mafia experience?

[OopsieDaisy]

Tak was a threat to someone. in a sea of random threats, someone CHOSE Tak. and I doubt it was a frame job.

yea that's what I wanted to focus on, and I think Takutai's kill looks a lot worse on me, el, gera & hem than it does on greeting because the threat he's had over us has been looming for longer and there's been a clear frustration coming from el & i over takutai's reads.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Tak looked like he was crumbing heavy at the start of the day and I think scum fell for that.

[clidd]

My thoughts:

HEM and Elements are slots that after a reread seem better. HEM for behaviour, Elements for meta impressions.

Tweet and Daisy are still fine. Karma is within what I assumed to be his town meta, though perhaps with a disproportionate sense of confidence (rooted in past experience).

Gera and Flippy are nullish (LHF), but I haven't identified any malicious purpose or objective on their part.

Klick and Greeting have taken a dip after reanalysis, so I intend to revisit the slots today.

There are multiple reasons for the NK, so I won't use my energy speculating about this topic.

[clidd]

That said, the individual I'd like to talk to at this point is Furtive.

Other than the suspicion expressed about me, there haven't been any other *expressive* instances to check out his perspective on the game.

VOTE: furtiveglance

What are your current impressions? (apart from my slot, of course).

[Elements]

Elements for meta impressions.

You have meta impressions on me? From what?

[curiouskarmadog]

So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

fwiw I don't

why?

ckd, do you have more forum experience or irl mafia experience?

forum.

[Elements]

So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

fwiw I don't

why?

my knowledge of Daisy as a person

[curiouskarmadog]

Karma is within what I assumed to be his town meta, though perhaps with a disproportionate sense of confidence (rooted in past experience).

sort of remains to be seen right? Do you know something I dont about my reads? If my reads are right, is it still disproportionate?

[curiouskarmadog]

So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

fwiw I don't

why?

my knowledge of Daisy as a person

like IRL?

[curiouskarmadog]

also as I am reread.

Greeting, you said "many of my reads were contentless", which ONES exactly. Again this is easy to say, but I am an action speak louder than words sort of guy, so I want to know which ones specifically caught your eye.

[furtiveglance]

That said, the individual I'd like to talk to at this point is Furtive.

Other than the suspicion expressed about me, there haven't been any other *expressive* instances to check out his perspective on the game.

VOTE: furtiveglance

What are your current impressions? (apart from my slot, of course).

You and Greeting remain my biggest scumreads. I'll go back and look at what Takutai was saying, I feel like they weren't really a UTR so maybe killed for their reads.

[OopsieDaisy]

I am an action speak louder than words sort of guy

He said the line

[Elements]

So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

fwiw I don't

why?

my knowledge of Daisy as a person

like IRL?

yes

[OopsieDaisy]

Or it's an inexperience thing..

Im not buying it . forum games or not, theory is theory. you KNOW how mafia games work. I dont know you well, but you are logical and can think through motivation. I dont think TownOD seriously thought..

VOTE: Greeting I'm still interested in this slot.

What motivation exists in order for Greeting to kill Takutai?

I get it, you want to put out there that you thought Tak had greeting on a town lock. But at the end, he did not. So I feel like TownOD, would have looked over Tak a bit before putting this out there for people to consume.

You're overestimating my abilities Karma, please don't make this the basis of your push. I'm a player who doesn't exclusively rely on logic, because I'm not a logical person or player. I'm a lot better at understanding feelings than I am at understanding logic, that's just who I am. I often forget things and lose my train of thought, especially when under pressure. I don't proofread my posts like 70% of the tme, I simply say exactly what I think as it would've come out of my mouth.

I understand that self-meta is self-meta, but I do have ADHD and the impulsivity and forgetfulness you're seeing are direct symptoms of that neurodivergence. Idk what else I can say.

[OopsieDaisy]

If you don't believe my ADHD claim (which is the most hilarious thing I've ever uttered in a mafia game LMAO), Elements and Furtive can both back me up on that since they both know me irl.

[clidd]

Elements for meta impressions.

You have meta impressions on me? From what?

I took the time to go over viewtopic.php?sid=&f=2&t=91038&user_select%5B%5D=32224 among other examples.

Your posting seemed more similar imo to town!Elements than scum!Elements.

I also have a guess as to why you were icy on D1 after the active start, but this one I can't comment for now.

[clidd]

Karma is within what I assumed to be his town meta, though perhaps with a disproportionate sense of confidence (rooted in past experience).

sort of remains to be seen right? Do you know something I dont about my reads? If my reads are right, is it still disproportionate?

It's not about accuracy, it's about the confidence you put in when you vocalised them.

I know what it's like to have a lot of confidence in yourself after a good game, and I believe town!you are potentially experiencing that event.

[clidd]

That said, the individual I'd like to talk to at this point is Furtive.

Other than the suspicion expressed about me, there haven't been any other *expressive* instances to check out his perspective on the game.

VOTE: furtiveglance

What are your current impressions? (apart from my slot, of course).

You and Greeting remain my biggest scumreads. I'll go back and look at what Takutai was saying, I feel like they weren't really a UTR so maybe killed for their reads.

Could you expand on Greeting?

By extension, I would like to know your trs/townleans/nulls too. Basic impressions will suffice before we discuss them.

[Elements]

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