Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.06

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2023-07-18 14:00:00).

yeet

Doctor Drew [3]:

Firebringer, Merlyn, Invisibility

Bingle [3]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, sheepsaysmeep, Ausuka

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

Bingle, Doctor Drew

sheepsaysmeep [1]:

Radical Rat

not voting [0]:

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[Bingle]

Why would u shoot vizzy

Because vizzy was the towniest player at the end of D1 and would have been a lower impact loss for scum if I was wrong than the other v towny players (sorry, viz, but you don't strike me as very powerwolfy).

Basically the only important criteria for a N1 kill in this setup is {unlikely to be scum}. A cross kill is fine, because both teams now have a conftown they can shoot at that isn't a confirmed town voice should their cop result not give them the ability to kill someone safely. Missing a kill is >>>> hitting a buddy.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I find it ridiculous that mafiascum requires a majority of votes and there’s no “let it rand” option

[Radical Rat]

I think there's a solid possibility of this being TvT with Pooky just latching onto a hero solve and confbiasing his way into this hole, and an outside chance he's actually right and we're all being played for fools, but like.

If Datisi descended from the heavens and said one of them MUST be scum, gun to head I'd go for Pooky.

He's hyperfocusing on a specific aspect that I don't think actually aligns with the reality of the situation, and Bingle's defense pretty much matches my perception of events.

So here's my thing. A hypothetical sheep townflip forces me to reevaluate the game as I presently understand it, and in the event that I'm wrong, I want that opportunity to reevaluate. I don't want to be stuck with sheep in ELo, and ESPECIALLY not both sheep and Drew.

If this Bingle/Pooky 1v1 absolutely MUST be resolved today, I will vote for Pooky. But I won't follow through onto Bingle until after I have an answer on sheep.

I will alternatively move to Drew, who is tied into my sheep read and would also be a place I looked for a partner if I knew that I were wrong about Bingle, so it would serve to either win, or provide context that actually helps me solve after.

Unfortunately, either Pooky or Bingle flipping green... leaves me in the exact same spot I'm at now. It just wastes a day eliminating a townread, just like we did yesterday with osuka, and I don't want to do that again.

So.

VOTE: Doctor Drew
Anyone for hammer?

[sheepsaysmeep]

Tbf most of ur post applies from pooky’s POV in the form “a bingle townflip forces me to reevaluate the game whereas anything else leaves him in the exact same place he is now

[Bingle]

Tbf most of ur post applies from pooky’s POV in the form “a bingle townflip forces me to reevaluate the game whereas anything else leaves him in the exact same place he is now

Other things that would force pooky to reevaluate his reads: reading the thread.

[Bingle]

Oh sorry, I meant to put reads in quotes.

[Bingle]

Tbf most of ur post applies from pooky’s POV in the form “a bingle townflip forces me to reevaluate the game whereas anything else leaves him in the exact same place he is now

Actually this kind of bugs me. Why are you assuming pooky town here?

[Bingle]

the whole point is to claim he didnt do it

This also doesn’t make sense, btw.

If I killed Meuh to say “I wouldn’t have killed Meuh” then I would have had to have foreknowledge that Meuh would flip scum leaving only one unaccounted for nightkill. So pooky isn’t really arguing “Bingle shot someone solely to be able to claim he wouldn’t have shot that person.” Pooky is arguing “Bingle intentionally shot his scum partner to be able to claim he wouldn’t have shot his scum partner.”

Putting aside all of the games I’ve ever played where I did in fact not shoot my scum partner for towncred, I’d also be doing this in a setup where an entirely unrelated lim would lose me the game.

[sheepsaysmeep]

Tbf most of ur post applies from pooky’s POV in the form “a bingle townflip forces me to reevaluate the game whereas anything else leaves him in the exact same place he is now

Actually this kind of bugs me. Why are you assuming pooky town here?

I don’t think I am, just noting that logically the RR post isn’t meaningful/influencing because it’s basically just saying what his personal reads are

[sheepsaysmeep]

Idk I guess it was a kinda pointless post of m

[sheepsaysmeep]

I am fine voting drew when I get home

[Radical Rat]

Tbf most of ur post applies from pooky’s POV in the form “a bingle townflip forces me to reevaluate the game whereas anything else leaves him in the exact same place he is now

Yeah, but also Pooky's not the only one capable of hammering. The appeal was not to him specifically, it was an explanation of why I don't want to engage in the 1v1, and why I would prefer voting Drew (or you, but not enough time at this point), for anyone who would listen and be willing to follow.

[Doctor Drew]

I am fine voting drew when I get home

I don't want to vote Bingle, but in the interest of keeping town alive another day vs maybe ending it here......I will go with the sure thing and hope Pooky really does have my back.

VOTE: Bingle

[Merlyn]

Ugh, fine. Better this than no lim VOTE: Bingle

it would be legendary if Pooky is right

[Radical Rat]

B(

[Radical Rat]

Ugh, fine. Better this than no lim VOTE: Bingle

it would be legendary if Pooky is right

Why did you switch when we already had a hammer lined up for Drew?

[Datisi]

about to fall asleep, doing mod stuff in the morning.

[Datisi]

vote count 3.final

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2023-07-18 14:00:00).

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Bingle [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, sheepsaysmeep, Ausuka, Doctor Drew, Merlyn

[HAMMER]

Doctor Drew [3]:

Firebringer, Invisibility, Radical Rat

PookyTheMagicalBear [1]:

Bingle

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[Datisi]

Bingle has been yeeted day 3. he was a

townie

.

replacing Ausuka.

the sun sets, it is now night 3. deadline for day 4 is frozen at 48 hours until i find a replacement.

[Datisi]

camelCasedSnivy replaces Ausuka.

sunrise in (expired on 2023-07-20 14:15:00).

[Datisi]

Radical Rat has been killed night 3. they were a

townie

.

the sun rises, it is now day 4.

[Datisi]

vote count 4.00

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 14:30:00).

yeet

not voting [7]:

Invisibility, camelCasedSnivy, Doctor Drew, Merlyn, Firebringer, sheepsaysmeep, PookyTheMagicalBear

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[Invisibility]

hi ccs

[camelCasedSnivy]

hi ccs

hi

i only read my slot's iso because I haven't had the energy to read 79 pages

might do independent isos later when I'm not gonna be busy