Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

[Aristeia]

I really do want to work with you to win this game even if you don't trust me and you scumread me or whatever.

so sorry for all the times I hurt your feelings Shea.

[Datisi]

vote count 1.12

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-08-03 01:00:00).

coalition

tris [5]:

sheepsaysmeep, tris, hellbooks, fireisredsir, skitter30

sheepsaysmeep [5]:

sheepsaysmeep, tris, fireisredsir, hellbooks, skitter30
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The Bulge [5]:

The Bulge, tris, Thestatusquo, Isis, sheepsaysmeep
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Aristeia [5]:

Thestatusquo, fireisredsir, skitter30, tris, sheepsaysmeep
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Isis [5]:

tris, skitter30, hellbooks, Thestatusquo, Isis
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Thestatusquo [5]:

sheepsaysmeep, The Bulge, tris, Thestatusquo, fireisredsir
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fireisredsir [3]:

tris, hellbooks, Thestatusquo

skitter30 [3]:

skitter30, tris, Aristeia

hellbooks [1]:

tris

yeet

skitter30 [1]:

hellbooks

not voting [8]:

The Bulge, Aristeia, skitter30, tris, fireisredsir, sheepsaysmeep, Isis, Thestatusquo

mod notes

skitter30 is v/la fridays/saturdays.
Isis is v/la through sunday.
this is a mod note.

flavour

[Thestatusquo]

I was trying to explain that your perspective of me shaping my whole game around discrediting you in particular is not a line I would be likely to take given your current position in the game state.

Choosing someone to attack and then refuse to explain why on a player who is not currently a keystone of the thread discourse (and I think you will admit you were not exactly shaping the thread at that point) is actually as far out of my scum range as I get because its not really something I would do as scum because I prefer to focus on maximizing thread power and I don't generally need to make shit up when I'm scum. I genuinely had a meta tell on you that I don't want to explain. Granted if I were scum and I saw that tell I might go for it but I don't think so because I think the thread reaction to "I have a meta tell on X but I won't explain it" is incredibly predictable and its very unlikely to lead to a miselim.

I'm sorry if you felt like that was minimizing you as a person it wasn't intended to. It was simply intended to state that as scum I would not make the play I was making. Which is all self meta anyway. I appreciate you taking the time to feel my perspective on those posts here.

[Isis]

Maybe I haven't expressed alignment this game cause I don't have a strong scumread.

Maybe I should Necro whatever it was about fire i disliked

I also have some stuff I need to get done today

But both are possible

[Thestatusquo]

I for one am shocked that the person who has put more effort into scum claiming this game than finding reads is being scum read.

[Isis]

i don't think that isis thinks along very many similar lines to you but i did actually also slightly side eye at that post so im not really arguing against you

This is pretty empty participation. Trying to express my disapproval without fixating in my own slot too much but like..

This is like, in a way, a substitution of NAI discourse where AI analysis discourse could be became fire could be pulling out the genuinely AI aspects of Shea's point and either foment or reject them.
I think both alignments can be like "lol Shea is treating Isis like she's not a weirdo" and it's an avenue for participation in dayplay fire jumps on.

i think that isis could talk about how she's scum as scum and you could talk about how you're scum as scum but the two of you would do it in different ways and for very different reasons

maybe those differences are unimportant though

Ok then fire goes on to analyze but analyze here means demonstrate an inability to analyze (admittedly without any of the discreetness implicit in IIoA)

im not gonna like litigate whether your feelings of engagement with the posts are valid or whatever im just wondering where the thought is coming from for you

This is one of the interactions with Shea I found scummy. Probing the authenticity of feelings kind of isn't useful they're often half true. Like I think the meta anecdote is accurate but it would be more interested ituitive to town!fire that deciding if it's genuine frustration using follow up questions is a futile thing.
Maybe I can't explain my take on this post well.

[Isis]

I for one am shocked that the person who has put more effort into scum claiming this game than finding reads is being scum read.

This post made me smile thank you Shea

[Isis]

The strength of my fire read is rly inadequate for top scumread going on page 64 I dislike

[Isis]

I guess when I say the game has lots of scum equity I doubt basically all my townreads sometimes even Ari

I don't have good scumreads.

Maybe I should be defaulting bulge then idk

[Isis]

I just can't play mafia anymore 2020 Isis is dead I'm washed up

[Isis]

What do I do if I roll scum later do I have to emulate not having reads

[fireisredsir]

I guess when I say the game has lots of scum equity I doubt basically all my townreads sometimes even Ari

I don't have good scumreads.

Maybe I should be defaulting bulge then idk

i sort of agree with this which is why i was confused by your previous conclusion from this similar premise of "everyone has scum equity so bulge town"

[Isis]

ok but have you considered that im stupid

[Aristeia]

I guess when I say the game has lots of scum equity I doubt basically all my townreads sometimes even Ari

I can't have scum equity I am an angel

[Aristeia]

ok but have you considered that im stupid

you are the smartest and I refuse to believe otherwise

[Isis]

V/LA today tomorrow Sunday

[Isis]

@Datisi

[hellbooks]

isis and skitter are being like persephone and persephone

[Isis]

Did you play hades

[skitter30]

I tried but didnt really like it

[skitter30]

I think I'm coming around to like actively scumreading isis >.>

[Isis]

I liked the characters but I think I didn't like the mechanics enough to even get an any% completion so I can't fault you

[Isis]

What if I convince everyone to coalition me just so I'm a reasonable first lim, then everyone gets shocked when the coalition ends the game. That'd be so epic

[Isis]

Datisi would then nominate literally everyone in the game except me a scummy

[Isis]

I'll ask this skitter

How would town Isis look different
I'm pretending to ask to sort you but secretly I want to start doing those things.

Hm if I'm trying to emulate someone else's characterization of my town game as town and am more interested in that than finding scum things aren't going well