Mini 2307 | Songs from Glee! | Endgame

[PenguinPower]

I'm just trying to do something that's useful for d1 because you guys are just chatting for now while I'm actually trying to solve

You have done zero solving.

Solve the players not the setup.

[PenguinPower]

Oh yay. Substantive pagetop.

[KittyTacky]

true sheeping is skill/confidence based, not ai.

In your opinion what exactly IS AI in Mafia?

I think it's entirely player/context dependent and you can't just say "scum do this" and "town do this."

Game would be on auto if that was the case.

Look at the votes, how wagons are built, think about motivations for the way they rise and fall, and the circumstances around the elimination.

That's fair.

From my perspective I've experienced so many players in their own little boxes that presume Scum/Town must play this way or that way.

How do you best navigate Day 1? I'm sure you know my main and that I struggle with Day 1 in general.

Exchange feels town, especially with RN being newish to MS.

[KittyTacky]

How do you best navigate Day 1? I'm sure you know my main and that I struggle with Day 1 in general.

I think it's common to struggle/hate D1.

I like to play around wagons since votes are the only impactful thing, especially in 9p since scum are disincentivized from bussing.

If I try to advance something D1 I usually get town killed so I stay on the sidelines on D1 usually nowadays, I'm better when there's a flip.

[KatyKimFanClub]

From my perspective I've experienced so many players in their own little boxes that presume Scum/Town must play this way or that way.

How do you best navigate Day 1? I'm sure you know my main and that I struggle with Day 1 in general.

Exchange feels town, especially with RN being newish to MS.

Is RN new?

[PenguinPower]

Is RN new?

How do you best navigate Day 1? I'm sure you know my main and that I struggle with Day 1 in general.

[KittyTacky]

Ah fuck, how did I miss that. Still feels newish.

[KittyTacky]

I kind of skipped over the "you know my main" part.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Is RN new?

How do you best navigate Day 1? I'm sure you know my main and that I struggle with Day 1 in general.

Not that it really matters, but I only included the RN quote from 39 there because it implied he wasn't new.

[iamveryhappy]

I'm just trying to do something that's useful for d1 because you guys are just chatting for now while I'm actually trying to solve

You have done zero solving.

Solve the players not the setup.

That’s the thing I can’t do! I’m more of a setup designer than a player

[Deltabreedy]

I'm catching up as I go but

I'm just trying to do something that's useful for d1 because you guys are just chatting for now while I'm actually trying to solve

No you aren't. You explained your modvote and then you asked if anyone wanted to try and solve the setup (with zero information). That's not trying to solve, it's asking rather impossible hypotheticals and

looking

like solving.

[Deltabreedy]

Huh that was basically all to catch up on.

Not sure whether happy is just vibing or if they trying to appear solve-y but for me my vote is here for now.

UNVOTE: Sky
VOTE: Happy

[iamveryhappy]

If there IS singer I’m not one jsyk
I’m not revealing anyone tonight lol

[iamveryhappy]

tbh have I even tried to setup solve as scum before lol
Trying to setup solve as scum makes it worse for scum than town

[KatyKimFanClub]

I don't think Singer is a normal role (at least according to the wiki).

It's unclear to me whether Normal games are even allowed to have flavor to the extent that specific role speculation is possible, though I am interested in someone answering this question for me.

[iamveryhappy]

Huh that was basically all to catch up on.

Not sure whether happy is just vibing or if they trying to appear solve-y

but for me my vote is here for now.

UNVOTE: Sky
VOTE: Happy

I tried to solve but then went like “fuck it we need more info”

[RH]

Flavour

Here Comes The Sun

Day 1 Count I

Elements (3) - OopsieDaisy, Elements, Skygazer
KittyTacky (2) - Random Nurse, PenguinPower
PenguinPower (1) - iamveryhappy
Random Nurse (1) - KittyTacky
iamveryhappy (1) - Deltabreedy

Not Voting

- KatyKimFanClub

Notes

• My mod ISO is here.
  
• With 9 remaining, it takes 5 to form a majority.
  
• Let me know of any errors.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2023-07-30 20:25:00).

[Random Nurse]

Elements is at 3 votes, RH?

[iamveryhappy]

don't worry it's just a small error

[OopsieDaisy]

I'm just trying to do something that's useful for d1 because you guys are just chatting for now while I'm actually trying to solve

The chatting is a lot more useful for us Day 1 than mechtalk. Not only do I think that early game mechtalk is NAI (so it doesn't rly help us sort players) and something I've seen scum players hide behind to avoid having to interact with the game, but the chatting has already started to generate genuine reads from people. That's definitely useful.

Trying to figure out IAVH's slot is gonna be difficult because I'm getting the vibe I'm gonna disagree with him a lotttt this game, and his defensive stance on the mechtalk thing is understable but also pings me. However I've actually read a previous game of his in mini norm 2303 and I got those same vibes reading his slot from afar that game, and he was town.

[OopsieDaisy]

I'm just trying to do something that's useful for d1 because you guys are just chatting for now while I'm actually trying to solve

The chatting is a lot more useful for us Day 1 than mechtalk. Not only do I think that early game mechtalk is NAI (so it doesn't rly help us sort players) and something I've seen scum players hide behind to avoid having to interact with the game, but the chatting has already started to generate genuine reads from people. That's definitely useful.

Trying to figure out IAVH's slot is gonna be difficult because I'm getting the vibe I'm gonna disagree with him a lotttt this game, and his defensive stance on the mechtalk thing is *understable but also pings me. However I've actually read a previous game of his in mini norm 2303 and I got those same vibes reading his slot from afar that game, and he was town.

EBWOP: Understandable not understable lmao

[OopsieDaisy]

One thing I just remembered looking at 2303 was that KKFC was also in the game! They were scum, and iirc KKFC did a great job chilling and avoiding suspicion by playing a passive game/not really rocking the boat. Looking at the game right now, I'm seeing similarities to that playstyle, so it seems like a good place to put my vote for now.

UNVOTE: Elements
VOTE: KKFC

[iamveryhappy]

so... you're saying chatting is best
ew
I guess I'm going to make you scared of me then
Here's two truths and a lie
1. I'm so good at mafia I got two cop inspects in a row
2. I've once gotten second in the country for olympiad maths
3. I have no endurance, I can't even run 100 metres

[OopsieDaisy]

so... you're saying chatting is best
ew
I guess I'm going to make you scared of me then
Here's two truths and a lie
1. I'm so good at mafia I got two cop inspects in a row
2. I've once gotten second in the country for olympiad maths
3. I have no endurance, I can't even run 100 metres

Tbf, if you got injured after the olympiad worlds 2 and 3 both exist lol

[OopsieDaisy]

@IAVH you were also in 2303, do you think my read on how KKFC played the game is accurate?