Mini 686 - Chess Mafia (Done)

[Indigo Heron]

Why not just take the pawn after Qe5?

*chess tag removed*
1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4 Nf6
10. Qe5 O-O
11. Qxf5
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After black's next move here, we'll most likely have to retreat with our queen, but that's no disaster as we're a pawn ahead.

Bd2, I don't know. It attacks a protected pawn, but it does allow us to castle.

Where were you when I posted posts #343 and #344?!

[Indigo Heron]

Case 1: Qc4
*chess tag removed*1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4 Nf6
10. Qc4 d5
11. Qb5 Nd7
*/chess tag removed*

I don't see it ending well for us down this route. The queen gets trapped into permanently running while they get plenty of attacks in.

If that be the case....

12. Qxd5!

You can see what's gonna happen if that be the case...right?

Case 2: Qe5
*chess tag removed*1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4 Nf6
10. Qe5 o-o
11. Bc4 d5
12. Bb3 Ng4
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This looks like a fine position to ask 'Would you like to resign?' That d5 is a brilliant move and we get screwed over this badly.

Equally good alternatives to Ng4 are a5, or Re8, or Bd6. However, if you intend to continue down the Ng4 line...which is BAD...

13. Qxd5+! Since you decided to shift protection from the pawn to somewhere else.

Alternative : Bd2
*chess tag removed*1. e4 c5
2. Nc3 Nc6
3. f4 e6
4. Nf3 f5
5. exf5 exf5
6. Qe2 Be7
7. Nd5 Nb4
8. Nxb4 cxb4
9. d4 Nf6
10. Bd2
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How about this one?

Now this isn't half-bad. This was one of the moves I considered, but I favoured the more aggressive Qc4. Black and White's chances are pretty much equal from my PoV. Both sides seem equally developed, and both sides have attacking chances.

[sirdanilot]

I still haven't seen anything to convince me that Qc4 is bad.

[veerus]

buncha stuff in post 376

IH, you've really made a turn for the best. Two great posts in a row. I agree with pretty much everything you said in the post above.

[veerus]

Requesting the replacement mod make their presence known and do a vote/move count. And send some prods.

According to the old mod's post in the mini-theme thread, our replacement mod is

MafiaSSK

. I will PM him.

[MafiaSSK]

Vote count to come. Any prods or anything else requested?

[Indigo Heron]

Just prod everyone...

[veerus]

Probably not a bad idea.. The game really stagnated in the last week or two. I'm in another game that Sensfan is modding and he hasn't been heard from in like a week, so a replacement or two may be in order as well.

[sirdanilot]

I'm here, in case you were going to prod me.

[Goatrevolt]

I'm still here. I will be giving this game attention tomorrow.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Here as well. I had a reason that I didn't like Qc4, so I will probably dig it up and post later.

[Pesco47]

Refusing the prod.

[MafiaSSK]

Seeing as 7 people have just posted. I will not prod eveyrone. Still working on vote count.

[MafiaSSK]

Votecount!

Moves

Qc4 (3) - Indigo Heron, sirdanilot,veerus
g3 (2) - Gorrad, The Central Scrutinizer
Qe5(2)-Goatrevolt,Lawrencelot
Qb5 (1) - SensFan
g3(1)-Pesco47

Not voting (0)

Players

Not voting (9) - SensFan, Goatrevolt, Lawrencelot, sirdanilot, Indigo Heron, Gorrad, Doomsday, Pesco47, The Central Scrutinizer

5 to lynch/move

[veerus]

....and the verdict is?... I like Qc4, I could live with Qe5 (though it would've likely been my preference if I didn't have to convince half a dozen others every time). Other moves are very poor.

[SensFan]

Probably not a bad idea.. The game really stagnated in the last week or two. I'm in another game that Sensfan is modding and he hasn't been heard from in like a week, so a replacement or two may be in order as well.

Oh, of course, replace SensFan. Don't bother prodding him, since Mister veerus obviously knowbs best...

[veerus]

Probably not a bad idea.. The game really stagnated in the last week or two. I'm in another game that Sensfan is modding and he hasn't been heard from in like a week, so a replacement or two may be in order as well.

Oh, of course, replace SensFan. Don't bother prodding him, since Mister veerus obviously knowbs best...

Our mod hadn't been heard from in over a week too so I wasn't really expecting a sudden replacement out of nowhere. :p Wb.

[SensFan]

Probably not a bad idea.. The game really stagnated in the last week or two. I'm in another game that Sensfan is modding and he hasn't been heard from in like a week, so a replacement or two may be in order as well.

Oh, of course, replace SensFan. Don't bother prodding him, since Mister veerus obviously knowbs best...

Our mod hadn't been heard from in over a week too so I wasn't really expecting a sudden replacement out of nowhere. :p Wb.

You shouldn't have been expecting a reaplcecement PERIOD. And I was never gone anywhere.

Seriously, its ungrateful assholes like yourself that make me regret putting hours into set-ups.

[Gorrad]

Screw it. I hope y'all have a plan.

Vote: Qc4

[Goatrevolt]

Unmove, Move Qc4

It looks like black castling will foil both Qb5 and Qe5. We can get the pawn, but I see some pretty aggressive threats from black that makes the pawn grab seem like too much of a risk. Especially in a move-by-committee game like this, risks like that are unnecessary. Qc4 is a safe play and keeps pressure on. Any of the more defensive plays seem weak.

[Lawrencelot]

Unmove, move qc4

. As I said, I've been willing to do this one, but I don't know which move is optimal.

[veerus]

You shouldn't have been expecting a reaplcecement PERIOD. And I was never gone anywhere.

Seriously, its ungrateful assholes like yourself that make me regret putting hours into set-ups.

Dude, chill, it's not like you were posting, so I misspoke and said replacement instead of prod. I didn't mean anything by it. Besides, did I complain about YOUR game? It's a great concept! What's with all the anger?

[sirdanilot]

Screw it. I hope y'all have a plan.

Vote: Qc4

Sadly, this is what happens with long days like this one. People lose interest and decide 'whatever, I just want to see something happen'.

Let's try not to let it get this far next day, people.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Yawn.

[Pesco47]

Where's the mod to end the day?

Votecount!

Moves

Qc4 (3) - Indigo Heron, sirdanilot,veerus

g3 (2) - Gorrad, The Central Scrutinizer

Qe5(2)-Goatrevolt,Lawrencelot
Qb5 (1) - SensFan

g3(1)-Pesco47

Only noticed this a moment ago, too late to do anything about it now.