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[PenguinPower]

who said i did?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Wasn't that the point of the wagon in the first place? to force me to react?

no

If you're not voting me for a reaction then you're voting me because you think I'm scum, right?

[Skygazer]

about to go back to the grind but generally nonchalantness is a scum tell from my experience; nsg has caught me a few times bc i didn't engage in people scum reading early me in hopes it would just go away. town usually engage more when they get scumread despite the unlikeliness of getting eliminated early

[PenguinPower]

Wasn't that the point of the wagon in the first place? to force me to react?

no

If you're not voting me for a reaction then you're voting me because you think I'm scum, right?

or possibly to see other reactions to your wagon and how it builds vs your competing wagon

...possibly

[KatyKimFanClub]

I don't really think it's fair to say that I haven't engaged with the people scum reading me?

[Skygazer]

Fair, but if your worry is that I'm being fed lines by a partner, then I hope I've assuaged some of those suspicions by now?

1) what an interesting conclusion to jump to
2) so you're saying your partner is inexperienced and unhelpful?

I thought that was the implication when you said "time management" and from posts 196 and 240 with PP.

The real time stuff was just why I started townreading PP. I laid out why I'm scumreading you so it's interesting you're jumped to a different reason to me. idk

[Skygazer]

"not engaging" might have been a poor choice of phrasing but you yourself admitted you werent taking it seriously

[KatyKimFanClub]

I'm a little confused by what you mean honestly.

[KatyKimFanClub]

"not engaging" might have been a poor choice of phrasing but you yourself admitted you werent taking it seriously

In tone, yes, but I think taking the comment where I say "nonchalant" and scumreading it is a weird conclusion to take out of the last few pages where I clearly have been very attentive to defending myself.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Your logic is getting more tenuous as this thread progresses and I don't like that. If you're grasping at straws or if this was all for a reaction then that's fair. What I don't like are the arguments in 252 and 255 especially since you're whole posture on this wagon has been "yes I scumread you from your ISO and here are my reasons"

In 252, your take-away from 249 is that I haven't really been engaging in my defense of myself. It just looks to me like you found a word to push on and are trying that. I'm clearly referring to my tone here, and that is quite different than what you're talking about specifically because you mention "engaging". It doesn't make any sense to scumread me for a lack of engagement given the last few pages.

In 255, you're scumreading me for jumping to assuming timing tells refer to possible mafia partners? To be honest, I thought this was the dominant takeaway from looking at people's timing in their posts. Either way, my comment about post timing is saying "shouldn't you be townreading me for this if you're townreading PP for it". I don't really get why that's suspicious at all, I'm saying you should have the same conclusion for timing tells between two players right?

[KatyKimFanClub]

your whole posture*

[PenguinPower]

what if it's not a timing tell but based on the content that was expressed

what if...

[PenguinPower]

i'm getting more and more okay with a katy yeet

[KatyKimFanClub]

In 255, you're scumreading me for jumping to assuming timing tells refer to possible mafia partners? To be honest, I thought this was the dominant takeaway from looking at people's timing in their posts.

Just as a fun teaser, Daisy do you want to answer why it would be reasonable for me to think this?

[KatyKimFanClub]

what if it's not a timing tell but based on the content that was expressed

what if...

Are you talking about your own interactions with Skygazer here or 255?

[PenguinPower]

I'm saying you should have the same conclusion for timing tells between two players right?

[PenguinPower]

katy, if you were forced to vote right now who would you vote?

[KatyKimFanClub]

I'm saying you should have the same conclusion for timing tells between two players right?

You're also the scummiest in my PoE at the moment... Penguin had some good real time engagement with me...

Ok, I see where you guys are coming from now.
Honestly when I read 240 I interpreted it along the lines as Skygazer townreading a "good response time". Hence my question of why he didn't extend the same read to me.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Probably Skygazer if he keeps pushing 252 otherwise probably just Elements since I think he's just openwolfing as scum.

[PenguinPower]

so why aren't you voting?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Admittedly, I feel better about Skygazer's push after reading 240 more carefully.

[Random Nurse]

Well, shit's getting serious.

Guess we're out of RVS.

[KatyKimFanClub]

so why aren't you voting?

Well, I've been pretty busy defending myself. Yes, I could have voted my strongest scumread and use my vote as an indicator of my reads but I was hoping to finish this conversation thread before moving to offense.

[KatyKimFanClub]

katy, if you were forced to vote right now who would you vote?

so why aren't you voting?

Are these two part question/hammer type posts meant to be some sort of gotcha? They're kinda funny.

[PenguinPower]

tbh your defensiveness is fairly scummy