Mini 2307 | Songs from Glee! | Endgame

[Skygazer]

bed time stoned read list:

oopsie
penguin / delta
elements
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iamveryhappy / kittytacky / random nurse / katykimfanclub

[Skygazer]

i think its mostly a matter of the top four have given me reasons to townread them and the bottom players haven't. hmm maybe iavh can have their own tier perhaps.

[iamveryhappy]

eyy I'm special~

[KittyTacky]

KKFC gives me more null pings than IAVH but no actual scum pings. IAVH town tho.

Why? I really disagree they're doing anything in the town interest right now so to see someone outright labelling them town is weird to me.

I don't think scum would act like this starting from literally page 1.

[KittyTacky]

This kind of irreverence is town imo. Like if it's in response to being voted but being calm before then it's null to scummy. But acting like this from the start?

[Deltabreedy]

eyy I'm special~

I asked you a question back in #381 and you're now deliberately skirting this.

IAVH has seen that a number of you are townreading this behaviour and has no motivation to change. They can meme their way through D1 and coast through D2 and to be honest I dont know if I have the capacity to townread them for doing absolutely nothing.

I'd also say it'd be pretty easy for scum to park their vote on IAVH because of how they're playing. This is like 3 days now with no game-advancing content, it's easy to justify a vote on them. The fact that a wagon hasn't formed on them tells me one of 2 things:

1- Scum are aware enough to keep Happy around as limbait for D2. They think another wagon can be pushed to completion (IE: KKFC). In this scenario, I would say that KKFC earns a townread from me.
2 - (My Preferred Solve on this) That Happy is scum, able to act irreverently and be townread for doing a whole load of not much and have their vote parked on a popular wagon. Their vote is on KKFC.

I'm content with removing KKFC from my lim pool for today based on this, as I think that either way, the associatives paint KKFC as town not scum. There's flaws with this logic, but I do think this is where my vote is going to stay for some time.

[iamveryhappy]

lol
while I shitpost I also drop off bits of material that town should be able to find
how bold of you to disregard my reeaction testing
yer not the worm that knows everything let me cook
VOTE: delta
HAHAAAAHAHAHAH OMGUS AND DIE

[Deltabreedy]

My honest reaction:

[Deltabreedy]

What have you dropped off since I asked you a question in #381 then? A question that I add, I'm still yet to have an answer to.

I don't think you've reaction tested at all, quote the posts where you did it cheers.

[iamveryhappy]

delta am I dense or something (very politely refraining from calling you dense kek)
I've literally told RN that not registering 1 vote is ok
RN went on to argue with me earning them town points.
reaction testing by literally pretending to shitpost bout stuff.
it's like playing Kb1 after queenside castling
iit's a quiet move but with thought after it
I might not be able to persuade you that I'm town, you might not accept it, but that's fine, you ddon't have to.
why are you.miissing stuff I dropped? too busy calling my posts with smth like lack of content
wish people would understand but not everyone understands apparently

[iamveryhappy]

has ANYONE seen what info I've dropped off kk

[Deltabreedy]

Are you seriously insinuating that I'm being dense? Cause if you want to turn it into an ad-hominem shit-flinging contest I can buy into that but I don't really want to. Behave.

You've not been 'dropping off any info' whatsoever. Saying that your posts are related to the game is generous so yeah I think you're being given a bit of a free pass that you don't deserve and I'd quite like to remove you from the game.

[Elements]

I don't like IAVH this page at all

[iamveryhappy]

more lik you didn't like me don't like me and will never like me zzz
I'm used to being hated
and delta, I'm not trying to start some goofy ahh squabble and so I was going to suggest that I turn th other cheek instead letting you call me the dumbass
and yoiu read it wrong lol

[Deltabreedy]

No you aren't squirming out of this - answer the questions I have asked.

What information have you been 'dropping'?
Who do you suspect is scum, genuinely?
Do you actually care about the game?

[Skygazer]

1- Scum are aware enough to keep Happy around as limbait for D2. They think another wagon can be pushed to completion (IE: KKFC). In this scenario, I would say that KKFC earns a townread from me.
2 - (My Preferred Solve on this) That Happy is scum, able to act irreverently and be townread for doing a whole load of not much and have their vote parked on a popular wagon. Their vote is on KKFC.

I'm content with removing KKFC from my lim pool for today based on this, as I think that either way, the associatives paint KKFC as town not scum. There's flaws with this logic, but I do think this is where my vote is going to stay for some time.

iavh could be a town wagon competing with kkfc scum wagon. i think these associative reads are kind of bleh, i see where you're coming from but it's also a big reach to clear someone based on it

it does seem like it'll come down to kkfc and iavh today, i think both flips would generate info. ignoring associatives and just going off of behavior, i think kkfc's posting looks like it has a self-serving agenda behind it compared to iavh who is just being difficult on purpose despite the wagon on them. me thinks it makes it more likely that kkfc will flip scum than iavh

[Deltabreedy]

Thats the thing with it - I don't think they're the same alignment.

Am I potentially getting baited a bit by a complete aversion to how IAVH plays? Yeah, that's possible. When I work through the logic of it though I don't see any reason for Town!IAVH to do this, and having played a few games with them, they're often a bit like this as either alignment but not to this extent. I just don't see why anyone would commit deeper and deeper to this bit rather than trying to have who is presumably their top scumread limmed, or sharing reads on other players beyond 1 'reaction test' which I think was more a test of how tolerant RN is to trolling.

I can't wrap my head around it. If it comes to deadline would I hammer KKFC? Yeah tbh but I do find it quite alarming the way that IAVH is getting away with so many things that are objectively scum-motivated.

[Deltabreedy]

KKFC is independently a good lim for today, but I think IAVH in the wider context and when I theorycraft a little bit - KKFC!Scum doesn't fit with either and Im struggling to reconcile how that works and which way I want to go tbh.

[iamveryhappy]

No you aren't squirming out of this - answer the questions I have asked.

What information have you been 'dropping'?
Who do you suspect is scum, genuinely?
Do you actually care about the game?

1. I've been softing all along...
keep looking, I've got trust for you!
2. I'm looking at a 2v7 setup here, I genuinely feel like you are scum, last time you pelted me with questions it was Newbie 2109
and you were scum, I had like 65 pages to catch up on
partner wise I would be looking at someone on my wagon, or those who excessively think I'm town
I'm a lhf and it's easy to push me or to pocket me
3. If I didn't care about it, I wouldn't have trolled so much
every shitpost takes skill ya know
not caring = sub btw
I would have subbed out if I didn't care about the game

slight question: have you seen me troll as scum? I just gave up as scum last game lol

[OopsieDaisy]

UNVOTE: IAVH

I had another couple looks at IAVH's ISO and I think I might know what he's softing? It's tenuous and I'm not sure if I'm actually right or just going a bit tinfoil hat, but it's not a role I'd wanna gamble on and vote out Day 1.

[OopsieDaisy]

What I don't understand is why draw attention to it by saying you're softing and people need to hunt for a claim? You're not in a spot where you need to claim yet and like, having that softly crumbed claim doesn't make you exempt from the fact that you've kinda just spent most of the day shitposting. If you are what I think you are I'm more confused by your play it isn't clearing up any of the criticisms.

[Deltabreedy]

So you're scumreading me solely from a meta read? That's... incredibly lazy for 18 pages of content and I think at this stage is more likely to come from scum than anything else.

@Oopsie:
I've looked through the ISO and I'm not seeing it so my only conclusion is that IAVH is trolling.
I also don't see what town motivation there is for even softing in D1 without even being at E-1. Either way, I'm unconvinced and my vote won't be moving. I also think that if you need to consider whether a tinfoil hat approaches your head D1 when looking at this, then perhaps it's too tenuous to have any basis in the truth.

Ninja'd: You have said that far better than I could, cheers.

[Skygazer]

i shall make an unofficial vote count i suppose

[Skygazer]

KatyKimFanClub (2) - Skygazer, PenguinPower
iamveryhappy (2) - Deltabreedy, KatyKimFanClub
Deltabreedy (2) - Elements, iamveryhappy
Random Nurse (1) - KittyTacky
KittyTacky (1) - Random Nurse

Not Voting (1) - OopsieDaisy

[Skygazer]

i think kkfc is the way to go. iavh softing is unideal but i've seen many an overexcited townie drop unnecessary hints about their role so i don't think it really changes my read on them either way. i think i spotted their soft and so did oopsie so i wouldn't be opposed to them full claiming at this point since scum can probably easily scope it out too.