I'm giving this two days. After that I'll see how my towncore holds up and move from there.In post 2542, JasonWazza wrote: You can curse the village all you want, it doesn't at all change the fact that Norwegian is town.
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Ok so i saw the flip and i’ve been thinking inbetween the gaps at work.
Scum!Alisae seems a bit unlikely here because i don’t see scum!them killing Sakura who had been agreeing with them on almost everything, or at the very least was quite agreeable in comparison to many other slots. So i think this might just spew them town, hence another town miller.
The question then becomes, are all miller claims real? Is this a setup where 4 town slots are all miller? Because that does serm a bit strange? If town for some reason in such a setup was to decide that all town miller claims are real then that effectively makes 4 conf!town for scum to deal with. And that just doesn’t seem very likely from a setup designing perspective?
So the alternative is that scum are informed and we have 1 scum fake claiming miller, but if so who would that be? Ruling out Alisae that makes either FL or Mikhail. FL claimed very early and claims they wouldn’t claim miller this early as scum (How believable that is nothwithatstanding…)
Mikhail i don’t remember and need to check when i’n done from work.
Either way Osuka flipping town miller i think opened up my biases a little bit, i think there is between 0-1 scum in miller claims and all scum outside of it at this point.
I haven’t thought much on which slots i believe to be scum yet but i just had to get the essentiall stuff out there so my starting point of solving today makes a bit more sense.
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Sakura wasn't that townread. I'm still not concluding anything about the other miller claims but I'm vannilla so for now the assumption I'm making is this was a pr shot. The only other angle is norwee killing a good ally to look better, that's milder.In post 2549, Alisae wrote:
Sakura gave off the impression to me that they aren't PR hunting.In post 2547, Takutai wrote:When I saw this kill the first thing that I thought is 'wolves are pr hunting.'
I don't see sakura being gone serving any other plan than pr hunting.
the impression I got is that Sakura was shot because it could be a PR but also wolves probably thought she was decently townie enough to warrant it or at least never an elim
I'm not saying everyone should believe me, I'm saying it was my instinct and for now I don't see myself moving counter to it.
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I find myself taking your post seriously for now norwee. Enjoy the day everyone!-
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So another note scribble before i even read anything today.
I’m betting the game on Alisae!town
Takutai!town
Jason too, fuck it.
Should have believed more in my Osuka read, Sakura was town like i predicted.
Fire and Flavour i both kinda townread earlier but i’m afraid of commiting on either of them. Would not bet the game yetNorwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Your that confident in Alisae Norwegian?Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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Got 1 more hour at work so i’ll continue keeping myself free from any worldly desires and post influence like an buddhist monk before i properly catch up. In case i get more revelations while unbiased by whatever’s going on in thread rn.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Stop your pathetic whining and play the game.In post 2541, Alisae wrote: like if you kill me and let Norwee live I'll just curse the village when I'm dead. I don't need to give a fuck anymore so its fine.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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FL claimed first. Osuka was sus of FL's claim due to their own role being miller. This is obvious in hindsight.In post 130, osuka wrote:
why do i not believe youIn post 21, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’m Miller. I know I have a tendency to troll claim other stuff, but I’m Miller here.
Nothing else, pure Miller. Full claim.
This is Mikhail showing that same sort of suspicion in an later post.In post 501, MikhailTal wrote: I have obtainedhard]/i], not soft, information that indicates that you are not Town Miller. I hard claim power role. If anyone would lend that any credence, please vote on Flavor Leaf.
Sheep then claims miller in an very believable way when they rep into the slot.
This slot is conf!town.
Ergo we have 4 miller claims.
Alisae i believe to be town.
Mikhail/Sheep i believe to be town.
Osuka already confirmed town and dead.
Flavour claimed first and if there is mafia in the miller claims this is literally the only slot i could imagine being so.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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This game is either
Flavour scum in millers + Every other miller is town= All other scum outside miller claims.
All miller claims are town = All scum are outside of the miller claims.
I think these are the only two possible worlds we have.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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4 town millers sound outrageous but it's either that or 3 town millers + FL fake claiming it early.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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I townread:
-JasonWazza
-Takutai
Yet to know:
-Random Nurse
-Hu Tao
-Firebringer
-Roden
-Dunnstral
Millers:
-Alisae
-sheepsaysmeep
-Flavor LeafNorwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Gonna ISO the non-miller slots now to get a better read.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Hmmm so I'll insert myself here this once to advance some narrative.In post 2562, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Gonna ISO the non-miller slots now to get a better read.
1. So if you believe Flavor can be scum then in your estimation what's up with calling Alisae out as a miller?
2. what conclusions can you reach about the reads Jason and Roden have on you following Alisae voting you right after Jason votes Alisae?-
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Ok so Random Nurse was a tough ISO to crack, i thought they would be easy but i waffled between thinking they were townie, then kinda scummy, then i believed they are likely town again. The reason why i say this is because i thought their reaction to their own wagon was town indicative.
Lean town, but i do want some more content from them to solidify this read.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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I think it's strange. Why call out someone else as miller if you are one yourself and suspect another slot of being the same? If i was in the same situation i would have not said a word, but i don't think like Flavour so they can explain it from their own mouth.In post 2563, Takutai wrote: 1. So if you believe Flavor can be scum then in your estimation what's up with calling Alisae out as a miller?
I have serious thoughts on this, but for now i'll give no reply.In post 2563, Takutai wrote: 2. what conclusions can you reach about the reads Jason and Roden have on you following Alisae voting you right after Jason votes Alisae?Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Hu Tao slot is relatively low-impact but genuine. Feeling like it's just town.
I don't think anyone will disagree.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Also Roden hasn't posted today. Did you mean Hu Tao in 2? Lol.In post 2563, Takutai wrote:
Hmmm so I'll insert myself here this once to advance some narrative.In post 2562, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Gonna ISO the non-miller slots now to get a better read.
1. So if you believe Flavor can be scum then in your estimation what's up with calling Alisae out as a miller?
2. what conclusions can you reach about the reads Jason and Roden have on you following Alisae voting you right after Jason votes Alisae?Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Sakura basically claimed VT, this kill couldn't be PR huntingIn post 2547, Takutai wrote:When I saw this kill the first thing that I thought is 'wolves are pr hunting.'
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I don't really care either way.In post 2571, Roden wrote:
Sakura basically claimed VT, this kill couldn't be PR huntingIn post 2547, Takutai wrote:When I saw this kill the first thing that I thought is 'wolves are pr hunting.'
I don't see sakura being gone serving any other plan than pr hunting.
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I do think Leaf's play doesn't make sense as scum, but...I also agree some stuff doesn't add up if he's town. I have a theory that's been rolling around in my head but I don't have anything to go by other than a gut feeling telling me something is off.In post 2559, NorwegianboyEE wrote: This game is either
Flavour scum in millers + Every other miller is town= All other scum outside miller claims.
All miller claims are town = All scum are outside of the miller claims.
I think these are the only two possible worlds we have.
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I still think they're both town and I'm not as interested in flipping Alisae today for the info as I was yesterday.In post 2572, Takutai wrote:
I don't really care either way.In post 2571, Roden wrote:
Sakura basically claimed VT, this kill couldn't be PR huntingIn post 2547, Takutai wrote:When I saw this kill the first thing that I thought is 'wolves are pr hunting.'
I don't see sakura being gone serving any other plan than pr hunting.
In light of the osuka hammer what is your current take on NorwegianBoyEE and Alisae?
What does your solve look like now with these flips?
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