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Votecount 2.3

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11

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votes

Takutai (2):

Flavor Leaf, sheepsaysmeep

Roden (2):

JasonWazza, Takutai

Random Nurse (1):

Roden

Hu Tao (1):

Firebringer

Alisae (1):

Hu Tao

Not Voting (4):

Random Nurse, NorwegianboyEE, Dunnstral, Alisae

notes

• Random Nurse is V/LA on Thursdays, Frydays and Saturdays.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2023-08-07 08:00:00)

[Flavor Leaf]

Town are for sure allowed to be wrong.

It’s the being wrong and unwilling to reconsider kinda thing.


I’ve gone back and forth on you, Norwegian, Takutai, Hu Tao, and Alisae all day phase, and while I’m a bit more of a flip flopper than your average Boon, it just kinda feels like they chose slots to town and scum read for positioning reasons.

[Random Nurse]

Town are for sure allowed to be wrong.

It’s the being wrong and unwilling to reconsider kinda thing.


I’ve gone back and forth on you, Norwegian, Takutai, Hu Tao, and Alisae all day phase, and while I’m a bit more of a flip flopper than your average Boon, it just kinda feels like they chose slots to town and scum read for positioning reasons.

But Flavor man, does bullheadedness make one Scum?

We're all grasping in the dark using whatever shreds of solid information we have. If we don't have our inherent biases on how to tell Scum apart from Town, what else do we really have?

Seeing how people position themselves CAN be a good way to suss out Scum, but it's definitely not fool-proof. It's only one way to try to deduce who's who. I will say that working with other players, including your Scumreads, can be beneficial... but you also run the risk of being sucked into the darkness this way. Still, maintaining the lines of communication are important.

[Takutai]

if you feel that it’s warranted from them to be that strongly defending considering how off they’ve been this game

I'm still giving Random Nurse time but here's the sentiment I've seen Roden sheep as well so for once I'll address it. The Sakura flip wasn't in any way discouraging to me in terms of sorting, people who followed my main drive day one would know my POE while I pushed osuka was a mixture of firebringer/norwee/flavor leaf/roden/alisae/sakura.

I've contracted my towncore to Dunnstral and Hu Tao for now but at day two start I was pretty much where I was at day one end.

Roden's plea that I reconsider was very interesting to say the least.

The two blindspots I'll say I have are Random Nurse and Jason and I'll see what I can read if I get the time(Edit: Sheep? Hmmm. Hm.). Other slots I'm more than capable of sorting this game day and going off my towncore and blind spots it should be clear who I'm sussing on the whole, I won't rank those slots yet because first the blind spots, and this Roden wagon is interesting enough that I feel I can solve around it.

[Flavor Leaf]

I do see worlds where Taku is town, to be fair, and came into this day thinking they were.

I’m just thinking i could be onto something here.

[Roden]

Taku doesn't really read like Enchant to me, but if they are Enchant then I might be wrong about my town read there. Scum!Enchant has a history of scum reading me as scum and almost never commits to read on me as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Takutai, how do you feel about Norwegian right now?

[Takutai]

Taku doesn't really read like Enchant to me, but if they are Enchant then I might be wrong about my town read there. Scum!Enchant has a history of scum reading me as scum and almost never commits to read on me as town.

To me it feels as if you're informed and I don't see the solving and uncertainty I associate with town.

Takutai, how do you feel about Norwegian right now?

Better than day one because he's nice to me and because, instinctual animal that I am, I liked him going against you, but as I've mentioned this morning already well not sure at all yet, can write pages but for now this is the one read I want to stay dark on.

I'm tired wow so bye.

[Flavor Leaf]

@takutai - you say that i feel informed to you too, but i have flip flopped on more people than anyone else this game

[Alisae]

Votecount 2.3

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votes

Takutai (2):

Flavor Leaf, sheepsaysmeep

Roden (2):

JasonWazza, Takutai

Random Nurse (2):

Roden, Alisae

Hu Tao (1):

Firebringer

Alisae (1):

Hu Tao

Not Voting (3):

Random Nurse, NorwegianboyEE, Dunnstral

notes

• Random Nurse is V/LA on Thursdays, Frydays and Saturdays.
  
• The combined mod ISO is here.

Day Two ends in (expired on 2023-08-07 08:00:00)

I unvoted

Fixed.

[Takutai]

@takutai - you say that i feel informed to you too, but i have flip flopped on more people than anyone else this game

I probably said that tbh I forget most of my pushes and work with my conclusions. If you're town I'm reading your confidence that way maybe. One factor with my aggression and emotional posting this day is that I can't stop sensing scum in you or alisae.

I have entertained a team of Roden/Alisae/Norwee or Roden/Firebringer/Alisae(Not sure after what firebringer said RE: Alisae) but it's too early for me to make this kind of speculation knowing my own meta. I still like teambuilding day ones though because even if I'm wrong on a scum pick judging people's reactions by being paired can give me a way too read them, and I'm more effective at finding town than scum that way.

[Takutai]

But I've had weird vibes this game. Flavor Leaf/Alisae/Roden would be.... interesting. As of now my stance is still one of uncertainty, I have two townreads and I'll case Roden a time permits. Those are my official reads for now.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would be way nicer to you as scum all game tbh

[Takutai]

I would be way nicer to you as scum all game tbh

I'm not discounting anything yet but I'm not going to insult or blindside you, for now I'm just slowly working towards clarity.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, I know who you are.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ll stay quiet.

It might just be Alisae scum tbh.

Im comfy in the pocket, though

[Roden]

Taku doesn't really read like Enchant to me, but if they are Enchant then I might be wrong about my town read there. Scum!Enchant has a history of scum reading me as scum and almost never commits to read on me as town.

To me it feels as if you're informed and I don't see the solving and uncertainty I associate with town.

Takutai, how do you feel about Norwegian right now?

Better than day one because he's nice to me and because, instinctual animal that I am, I liked him going against you, but as I've mentioned this morning already well not sure at all yet, can write pages but for now this is the one read I want to stay dark on.

I'm tired wow so bye.

Informed about what?

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: takutai

VOTE: alisae

The whole vote, then unvote, then pretending not to know what's happening then revote just seems fake.

You're not going to get a straight answer from Alisae about their vote on me because it reveals too much and you're probably right, they fully know I'm town.

I'm just curious how Roden's holding up in your mind, and how you've felt about flavor continously saying he won't vote alisae because then no one else will, while clearly going with this person's takes after having 'cleared' them as a miller?

Roden I'm not as sure on anymore. Think he could be town but unsure. And flavor I kinda don't get his reasoning for stuff at times

[Takutai]

Taku doesn't really read like Enchant to me, but if they are Enchant then I might be wrong about my town read there. Scum!Enchant has a history of scum reading me as scum and almost never commits to read on me as town.

To me it feels as if you're informed and I don't see the solving and uncertainty I associate with town.

Takutai, how do you feel about Norwegian right now?

Better than day one because he's nice to me and because, instinctual animal that I am, I liked him going against you, but as I've mentioned this morning already well not sure at all yet, can write pages but for now this is the one read I want to stay dark on.

I'm tired wow so bye.

Informed about what?

Me being town for one. You're reading me like that the whole game and my feeling is you're scum knowing it instead of town discovering it. I have to re-read MikhailTal.

[Takutai]

Roden I'm not as sure on anymore. Think he could be town but unsure. And flavor I kinda don't get his reasoning for stuff at times

Thank you! I should really log off now lol. I'm okay with voting Alisae because really I'm feeling they're acting from behind a facade.

You still feel really really good to me but when you get the time can you tell me what you think about dunnstral, norwee and firebringer? I guess I have to probe everyone here and if you're town I can only see you looking better.

[Hu Tao]

Id much rather go for Hu Tao or Dunn today
I don't understand any townreads on dunn.

I'll explain my main operating instincts to you my read on you isn't solid but I sense rationality: Random Nurse felt town to me to Day One, I'm sticking with that and giving the slot a chance despite inactivity. I have two completed town games with Hu Tao, he feels fully town. I have game with Dunnstral where he was town and one where he was scum, Dunnstral being scum here will be a hard sell.

I have played with you twice also I believe and for now I'm attaching merit to you not being that engaged with this game, it's understandable.

I really, really like Roden as a person right now I just think he's a likely scum flip, sadly. Going through his ISO I fail to see town motivation and his backing up of me while appreciated feel informed.

I don't know what to feel about sheep anymore but I'm leaving them alone.

Norwee.... Now we enter interesting territory. I can write pages here and not conclude anything so not voting them for now...

I don't remember playing with you. Are you an alt? Maybe I have bad memory

[Hu Tao]

I have two completed town games with Hu Tao, he feels fully town

I have one completed game with Hu Tao and i don't see the similarities here to that one.
Want to go deeper ino this?

What's different?

[Takutai]

I don't remember playing with you. Are you an alt? Maybe I have bad memory

Alt yes, but we've never talked much in a game.

[Random Nurse]

Taku doesn't really read like Enchant to me, but if they are Enchant then I might be wrong about my town read there. Scum!Enchant has a history of scum reading me as scum and almost never commits to read on me as town.

To me it feels as if you're informed and I don't see the solving and uncertainty I associate with town.

Takutai, how do you feel about Norwegian right now?

Better than day one because he's nice to me and because, instinctual animal that I am, I liked him going against you, but as I've mentioned this morning already well not sure at all yet, can write pages but for now this is the one read I want to stay dark on.

I'm tired wow so bye.

Informed about what?

Me being town for one. You're reading me like that the whole game and my feeling is you're scum knowing it instead of town discovering it. I have to re-read MikhailTal.

If memory serves Sheep replaced Mikhail?

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: takutai

VOTE: alisae

The whole vote, then unvote, then pretending not to know what's happening then revote just seems fake.

You're not going to get a straight answer from Alisae about their vote on me because it reveals too much and you're probably right, they fully know I'm town.

I'm just curious how Roden's holding up in your mind, and how you've felt about flavor continously saying he won't vote alisae because then no one else will, while clearly going with this person's takes after having 'cleared' them as a miller?

Roden I'm not as sure on anymore. Think he could be town but unsure. And flavor I kinda don't get his reasoning for stuff at times

You can always ask.