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[camelCasedSnivy]

Yeah it worked out so well the last time you went after Cakez.

Drew being willing to sheep this after pushing back firmly on marci's Cakez push is giving me weird vibes. What changed?

idk maybe because cakez wasn't the problem at the time?

[Aureal]

So Marci feeling phony doesn't bother you anymore? I've literally been re-reading those pages right now so the difference is kinda sticking out.

[Deal With The Devil]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

I am getting a very phony vibe from marci, personally speaking.

-Drew

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

Have you played with him before?

1. ive played with them both before
if i cant remember shit about roden how am i gonna remember shit about someone more inactive than him

2. yes, why would scum not want to "appear like theyre here while doing nothing"?

Cakez isn't a noob, why as scum would they make that post?

Or more specifically, why is that post AI?

I hate myself, I also hate hydras

-Drew

*Answer your question at least from Marci's perspective

I'm kinda eh on whether a "self-conscious" tell is AI - I feel like it'd vary from person to person more than anything - but saying Cakez is experienced doesn't really make sense unless you're saying he's too experienced to drop a tell like that

I am just saying it is AI, unless you think Cakez is a noob......then maybe I get the read.

But it is a super weak reason to scum read someone, especially to the point where you are looking for their buddy(s).

And then when getting some pressure from me, start acting dismissive.

Pre Edit: Marci, calling someones in game play isn't mean.....just wait until you see what I am capable of lol.

But I just don't understand how you can make, what seems to me, a solid scum read based off that one Cakez post unless you have some solid meta read on them.

-Drew

Mod

we are voting Snivy as well.....though I think I misspelled their name lol.....so VOTE: Snivy

Fixed

This was the bulk of my issue with Marci.

I then felt like it was more a playstyle issue I had, and never felt great about cakez post going forward from this.

[Deal With The Devil]

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

I am getting a very phony vibe from marci, personally speaking.

-Drew

this cruel cruel game sucks because i can't tell who is partners with cakez yet..

Why Cakez?

Hes doing this thing where hes complaining but doing nothing to fix the problem. It makes it look like hes here, but hes really just doing nothing. Usually people would just not say anything about having no reads unless theyre prompted.

Have you played with him before?

1. ive played with them both before
if i cant remember shit about roden how am i gonna remember shit about someone more inactive than him

2. yes, why would scum not want to "appear like theyre here while doing nothing"?

Cakez isn't a noob, why as scum would they make that post?

Or more specifically, why is that post AI?

I hate myself, I also hate hydras

-Drew

*Answer your question at least from Marci's perspective

I'm kinda eh on whether a "self-conscious" tell is AI - I feel like it'd vary from person to person more than anything - but saying Cakez is experienced doesn't really make sense unless you're saying he's too experienced to drop a tell like that

I am just saying it is AI, unless you think Cakez is a noob......then maybe I get the read.

But it is a super weak reason to scum read someone, especially to the point where you are looking for their buddy(s).

And then when getting some pressure from me, start acting dismissive.

Pre Edit: Marci, calling someones in game play isn't mean.....just wait until you see what I am capable of lol.

But I just don't understand how you can make, what seems to me, a solid scum read based off that one Cakez post unless you have some solid meta read on them.

-Drew

Mod

we are voting Snivy as well.....though I think I misspelled their name lol.....so VOTE: Snivy

Fixed

This was the bulk of my issue with Marci.

I then felt like it was more a playstyle issue I had, and never felt great about cakez post going forward from this.

-Drew

[Deal With The Devil]

marci do i kind of look like the cat in your pfp

yes i love cats

i still dont like cakez LOL

so vote him?

i feel like we've been over this before...

Is this secretly a cat themed game of mafia??

Also Marci, I am starting to enjoy your play.....both style and relevant to the game in hand.

Not sure if you are in 'Drew wants to sheep you this game' territory quite yet, but keep up the good work and you might just make it.

-Drew

And this is about when I cam around on Marci, even mentioned in the hydra PT that I am starting to town read them.

Not sure why it is weird that an opinion changed on a read I had on someone, especially when it was early on D1

-Drew

[Deal With The Devil]

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

[Aureal]

You came around on Marci because... She loves cats?

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

Aureal noticed the Cakez wagon has somehow become the big thing that is happening and thinks it'd be a good idea to know why.

Looking into a few other voters...

Marci, what's with all the pushing Cakez without voting him for so long? Like really what's with 285 in particular when you weren't voting anyone at all despite suspecting Cakez?

CSF, what prompted your Cakez vote?

[Deal With The Devil]

You came around on Marci because... She loves cats?

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

Aureal noticed the Cakez wagon has somehow become the big thing that is happening and thinks it'd be a good idea to know why.

Looking into a few other voters...

Marci, what's with all the pushing Cakez without voting him for so long? Like really what's with 285 in particular when you weren't voting anyone at all despite suspecting Cakez?

CSF, what prompted your Cakez vote?

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

Maybe it is as simple as that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah it worked out so well the last time you went after Cakez.

Drew being willing to sheep this after pushing back firmly on marci's Cakez push is giving me weird vibes. What changed?

Difference is…that time he town read me

[Flavor Leaf]

And i came after him

[Flavor Leaf]

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

Could be, not enough to really know for me yet.
It’s odd they brought the last time I went after Cakez, because in that scenario, Cakez and I were both town, it was the END of a game, and I came after Cakez not Cakez after me, so it’s pretty different.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh you are talking about Aureal on Marci

[Deal With The Devil]

Oh you are talking about Aureal on Marci

Actually no, Aureal protecting Cakez.

[Aureal]

You too Merlyn. Why Cakez wagon? How are you pressing Snivy on him wanting a vote moved to Penguin or Cakez in 628, thinking it's suspicious when, as far as I can tell those two are also

your

scumreads at the time?

[SirCakez]

I feel like it's a complete waste of time talking to you since you just called my cancelled Penguin push scummy then admitted you haven't even read a Penguin post

Had nothing to do with Penguin and all to do with gamestate.

Don’t misrep it.

You wanted to awaken the leaf, don’t be upset when ya get the beef

If you were actually reading this game my progression is very obviously based on Penguins posts but you're not interested in that

[SirCakez]

DwtD 180 definitely feels weird considering how in they went in defending me against Marci earlier

[SirCakez]

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

And this is just level 0 scum hunting

[SirCakez]

Congrats Flavor, the Devil considers you a friend......and most likely town.

Not sure how Alianna feels yet, but this guy wants to sheep you on Cakez, their 786 in particular is pretty bad.

-Drew

Explain your issues with 786

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like it's a complete waste of time talking to you since you just called my cancelled Penguin push scummy then admitted you haven't even read a Penguin post

Had nothing to do with Penguin and all to do with gamestate.

Don’t misrep it.

You wanted to awaken the leaf, don’t be upset when ya get the beef

If you were actually reading this game my progression is very obviously based on Penguins posts but you're not interested in that

Again, what does Penguin gotta do with anything other than the fact they were the previous counter wagon?

I don’t really care about the reasonings behind it

[Flavor Leaf]

My case has nothing to do with it

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh you are talking about Aureal on Marci

Actually no, Aureal protecting Cakez.

Oh, then my post still works.

Yeah, I think Cakez is just the right play all day today

[Flavor Leaf]

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

And this is just level 0 scum hunting

Yeah, and calling Flavor out for no initiative and OMGUS is level 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

Take notes, Devol

[SirCakez]

Either that or I’m derp tunneling Cakez town, but he came after me first

FL if you're actually considering this why not make an actual attempt to engage me and stop vomiting the typical I solved the game spam that is totally useless? It just looks like preemptive excuses for the town flip here

[SirCakez]

My case has nothing to do with it

What case LOL