In post 115, Infinity 324 wrote:
@bianco python is really trying to dig in to what they think heip's mindset is and you're just not about that.
-ash+others
Yes? Like I don't find the assumed mindset to be a convincing assumption at all
In post 119, usesPython wrote:
Like all of biancos town!heip theories are like alternate explanation stuff that'd come to mind if you start from the position that heip is town and then run the mindset from there
Lol. I'd like to hear what those "theories" of mine might be. Beside just not accepting that heip's tmi'ing which, yknow, the onus is really on you on that as far as I'm concerned, you are the one with the claim
In post 119, usesPython wrote:
Like all of biancos town!heip theories are like alternate explanation stuff that'd come to mind if you start from the position that heip is town and then run the mindset from there
Lol. I'd like to hear what those "theories" of mine might be.
Beside just not accepting that heip's tmi'ing
which, yknow, the onus is really on you on that as far as I'm concerned, you are the one with the claim
That's the entire reason we're calling you scum here:
The town perspective:
I don't know heip's alignment
heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
therefore it's reasonable to assume heip thinks his wagon is pure
therefore the people pushing him could be town
The scum perspective:
I know heip is town
heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
since heip is town that means he thinks the wagon is NAI
therefore I can counterwagon the people pushing him for towncred
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heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
therefore it's reasonable to assume heip thinks his wagon is pure
Yeah, the
therefore
here is just silly. This assumes that everyone that is shit wagoned on like page two must go detective mode. As opposed to not really caring enough to do anything more than complaining. I know it's hard to believe, but some (most?) players aren't in tryhard mode all the time
See, if you state basically "heip's doing X, and X is +scum, therefore here's a vote", you are basically establishing the narrative that X is obviously happening. Which is not obvious at all, so much not so that I wonder the motivation for insinuating as much. Can be that you really think it's obvious, but frankly that just doesn't parse for me that way at all
In post 102, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
im gonna assume that if heip is town then theres one scum on the wagon rn
What makes you feel that way? Not saying I think you're wrong, just would like to hear your reasons
i think heip is town, and even if python is town who thinks their reasonings are correct, i doubt that 3 townies and no scum would follow that flawed reasoning
In post 45, heipizhu4 wrote:
First time playing in a large game, and not_mafia's post looks like a mafia who is trying to act like a jester VOTE: not_mafia
Also Jester is explicitly non-normal so even if for some reason they didn't check what roles got posted they'd still know there can't be a Jester. Why do you think NM is scum trying to act like Jester?
Hey, it's just a rvs joke, i know jester isn't on the deck (nor normal).
In post 45, heipizhu4 wrote:
First time playing in a large game, and not_mafia's post looks like a mafia who is trying to act like a jester VOTE: not_mafia
Also Jester is explicitly non-normal so even if for some reason they didn't check what roles got posted they'd still know there can't be a Jester. Why do you think NM is scum trying to act like Jester?
Hey, it's just a rvs joke, i know jester isn't on the deck (nor normal).
Like there's an implicit assumption that the wagon is pure that I think is +scum
VOTE: python
There is no such assumption, implicit or otherwise.
Like, this is a perfectly valid argument as long as one doesn't pay mind on the unsoundness of the premise that it asserts, that I think is +scum
In post 89, heipizhu4 wrote:
I have a feeling I got wagoned whenever I tried to push the game out of rvs as town ...
He's still got his vote on NM from rvs and hasn't pushed anyone, wtf are you talking about
In post 119, usesPython wrote:
Like all of biancos town!heip theories are like alternate explanation stuff that'd come to mind if you start from the position that heip is town and then run the mindset from there
Lol. I'd like to hear what those "theories" of mine might be.
Beside just not accepting that heip's tmi'ing
which, yknow, the onus is really on you on that as far as I'm concerned, you are the one with the claim
That's the entire reason we're calling you scum here:
The town perspective:
I don't know heip's alignment
heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
therefore it's reasonable to assume heip thinks his wagon is pure
therefore the people pushing him could be town
The scum perspective:
I know heip is town
heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
since heip is town that means he thinks the wagon is NAI
therefore I can counterwagon the people pushing him for towncred
I don't like python's reasoning here, 128 explained the reason why python considered me as scum after 89, however, it didn't explain why they considered players being town for scumreading me in 76. As you know, the same gut feeling on someone doesn't guarantee both of town.
In post 105, usesPython wrote:
Like he didn't even ask questions to try to figure out if there's scum motivation for voting him, he just immediately went "yeah ok". How is that not implicitly assuming the wagon is pure?
When you put it that way, it does track actually; after all, clearly nobody would ever see a wagon on themselves and just think that's a nai thing on the voters' side, right?
In post 89, heipizhu4 wrote:
I have a feeling I got wagoned whenever I tried to push the game out of rvs as town ...
Oh, oh, wait, what's this? Is this heip aknowledging they get wagoned every time they do a thing? And so there need not be a specific ai motivation for such a wagon to form? Well then.
Well, since I'm somehow bad at joking with others during rvs and got wagoned by others due to 'gut feelings' (and it happened in quantum mafia and some irl games). It's like 50% there's a scum on my early wagon, and 50% it's just tvt.
In post 45, heipizhu4 wrote:
First time playing in a large game, and not_mafia's post looks like a mafia who is trying to act like a jester VOTE: not_mafia
Also Jester is explicitly non-normal so even if for some reason they didn't check what roles got posted they'd still know there can't be a Jester. Why do you think NM is scum trying to act like Jester?
Hey, it's just a rvs joke, i know jester isn't on the deck (nor normal).
In post 45, heipizhu4 wrote:
First time playing in a large game, and not_mafia's post looks like a mafia who is trying to act like a jester VOTE: not_mafia
Also Jester is explicitly non-normal so even if for some reason they didn't check what roles got posted they'd still know there can't be a Jester. Why do you think NM is scum trying to act like Jester?
Hey, it's just a rvs joke, i know jester isn't on the deck (nor normal).
Like there's an implicit assumption that the wagon is pure that I think is +scum
VOTE: python
There is no such assumption, implicit or otherwise.
Like, this is a perfectly valid argument as long as one doesn't pay mind on the unsoundness of the premise that it asserts, that I think is +scum
In post 89, heipizhu4 wrote:
I have a feeling I got wagoned whenever I tried to push the game out of rvs as town ...
He's still got his vote on NM from rvs and hasn't pushed anyone, wtf are you talking about
In post 119, usesPython wrote:
Like all of biancos town!heip theories are like alternate explanation stuff that'd come to mind if you start from the position that heip is town and then run the mindset from there
Lol. I'd like to hear what those "theories" of mine might be.
Beside just not accepting that heip's tmi'ing
which, yknow, the onus is really on you on that as far as I'm concerned, you are the one with the claim
That's the entire reason we're calling you scum here:
The town perspective:
I don't know heip's alignment
heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
therefore it's reasonable to assume heip thinks his wagon is pure
therefore the people pushing him could be town
The scum perspective:
I know heip is town
heip's complaining about getting wagoned but also not voting or pushing or interacting with anyone on his wagon
since heip is town that means he thinks the wagon is NAI
therefore I can counterwagon the people pushing him for towncred
I don't like python's reasoning here, 128 explained the reason why python considered me as scum after 89, however, it didn't explain why they considered players being town for scumreading me in 76. As you know, the same gut feeling on someone doesn't guarantee both of town.
Mindmelds are +town when they come to the same conclusion without us having to say anything.
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In post 135, heipizhu4 wrote:
Could you explain elaborate your votes? You've had 3 'naked' votes, are they all simple rvs votes or...?
My thinking is similar to what MT posted earlier. Initially I thought python was making something out of nothing but then you posted this which I don't like:
In post 89, heipizhu4 wrote:
I have a feeling I got wagoned whenever I tried to push the game out of rvs as town ...
"Woe is me" type posts are generally no bueno but also this doesn't look consistent with your earlier claim that the Not_Mafia vote wasn't serious.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
