You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.
But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?
Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.
Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.
Well there’s a lot opposed to it today, and i think bureau is much more important than a sacrifice.
So we don’t have to sacrifice day 2, but I’m open for it on me there and wouldn’t fight it like i would here.
In post 1317, Roden wrote:
I think it's shady as fuck that I say "ok let's do resolve this and do it all today" and then see you get cold feet and then pre-flip six different slots
If I'm scum I don't need to do shit here if you Infinity and Marci are town because you're already planning to flip the three of you by Day 3. Scum!me literally just sits here and does nothing and my hands are clean. I gain literally nothing as scum by inserting myself into this cluster fuck and putting forward a plan to get more info today instead of waiting until Day 3.
No.
We SPECIFICALLY don’t do it all today.
That’s like the whole thing.
And if you are scum with Marci, this is absolutely incorrect that you get nothing.
I gain absolutely nothing from playing like chaotic toxic shit and isn’t stopping you from voting this way
Didn't you think Roden was TMIing Marci as town with his response though?
I feel like things are moving too fast and communication is suffering as a result.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 1317, Roden wrote:
I think it's shady as fuck that I say "ok let's do resolve this and do it all today" and then see you get cold feet and then pre-flip six different slots
If I'm scum I don't need to do shit here if you Infinity and Marci are town because you're already planning to flip the three of you by Day 3. Scum!me literally just sits here and does nothing and my hands are clean. I gain literally nothing as scum by inserting myself into this cluster fuck and putting forward a plan to get more info today instead of waiting until Day 3.
No.
We SPECIFICALLY don’t do it all today.
That’s like the whole thing.
And if you are scum with Marci, this is absolutely incorrect that you get nothing.
I gain absolutely nothing from playing like chaotic toxic shit and isn’t stopping you from voting this way
Didn't you think Roden was TMIing Marci as town with his response though?
I feel like things are moving too fast and communication is suffering as a result.
You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.
But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?
Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.
Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.
I won't say I'm in favour of D1 Sacrifice, but this is the first good argument I've seen for it this game.
In post 1317, Roden wrote:
I think it's shady as fuck that I say "ok let's do resolve this and do it all today" and then see you get cold feet and then pre-flip six different slots
If I'm scum I don't need to do shit here if you Infinity and Marci are town because you're already planning to flip the three of you by Day 3. Scum!me literally just sits here and does nothing and my hands are clean. I gain literally nothing as scum by inserting myself into this cluster fuck and putting forward a plan to get more info today instead of waiting until Day 3.
No.
We SPECIFICALLY don’t do it all today.
That’s like the whole thing.
And if you are scum with Marci, this is absolutely incorrect that you get nothing.
I gain absolutely nothing from playing like chaotic toxic shit and isn’t stopping you from voting this way
Didn't you think Roden was TMIing Marci as town with his response though?
I feel like things are moving too fast and communication is suffering as a result.
My brain can't process things at anywhere near the rate they were moving.
In post 1187, meowmeow wrote:
fwiw i am a bit concerned that the deal with sacrifice is that scum can prevent whoever it is from dying, and if they do they get a free elimination the next day which i think works better for them
shrug
That would seem to indicate a mod lie.
This setup will feel reeeeeeeally bad if scum get roleblocks like that when town already seems to not have a lot of power.
Was going to respond to this and then decided I'd rather just nope out of the thread for a bit. I actually talked about this earlier in my big mech wall, I don't remember if you saw it or not, but there's a note under Assassination that says it's guaranteed to go through exactly as planned. I am assuming that the same is likely not true for Sacrifice, especially since it's free. I don't know if our action not going through as planned means a roleblock or a redirect or what, but there's probably something scum can do to foil it.
You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.
But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?
Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.
Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.
I won't say I'm in favour of D1 Sacrifice, but this is the first good argument I've seen for it this game.
- Alianna
I like the statement too. I’m not a mech person, so I was more just advocating to sacrifice day 2 for alignment reasons on me, but I’m more than happy to just live if y’all want lol
You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.
But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?
Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.
Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.
I won't say I'm in favour of D1 Sacrifice, but this is the first good argument I've seen for it this game.
- Alianna
I like the statement too. I’m not a mech person, so I was more just advocating to sacrifice day 2 for alignment reasons on me, but I’m more than happy to just live if y’all want lol
Yeah, we'd prefer you live. Devil Drew considers you locktown.
You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.
But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?
Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.
Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.
I won't say I'm in favour of D1 Sacrifice, but this is the first good argument I've seen for it this game.
- Alianna
I like the statement too. I’m not a mech person, so I was more just advocating to sacrifice day 2 for alignment reasons on me, but I’m more than happy to just live if y’all want lol
Yeah, we'd prefer you live. Devil Drew considers you locktown.
You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.
But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?
Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.
Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.
I won't say I'm in favour of D1 Sacrifice, but this is the first good argument I've seen for it this game.
- Alianna
I like the statement too. I’m not a mech person, so I was more just advocating to sacrifice day 2 for alignment reasons on me, but I’m more than happy to just live if y’all want lol
Yeah, we'd prefer you live. Devil Drew considers you locktown.
In post 1187, meowmeow wrote:
fwiw i am a bit concerned that the deal with sacrifice is that scum can prevent whoever it is from dying, and if they do they get a free elimination the next day which i think works better for them
shrug
That would seem to indicate a mod lie.
This setup will feel reeeeeeeally bad if scum get roleblocks like that when town already seems to not have a lot of power.
i hope the idea is we will get better powers late game, but it's like definitely possible that isn't it? i'm mostly guessing because it's free and it shouldn't be and that's the most intuitive answer to me
i would have guessed the mod lie would happen after mafia triggered that effect and not before, but i guess i'm not certain how that works
i think roden is probably my top townread and i have no idea what's going on with the fl push or why it stopped
i didn't really get the impression the situation was over either
i don't really remember fl's scum game featuring that much ate? but that was years ago and maybe it's changed. i probably need to go meta fl which is zzz cos he has like 2k posts a game
I see we got a deadline extension but I'll do my best to catch up before bed
About sacrifice, I don't care to argue for or against it at this point, but it's not a public vote and if we insist on counting two separate votes today, someone needs to take that initiative (and it can't be me lol)
I kinda liked flavor proposing himself as the sacrifice. It wouldn't be very easy to weasel out of that one, I think, unless only scum were in it and even then they'd be outed I think? I guess I'll keep reading to see if he sticks with this proposal though
