Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[DragonEater70]

Ranger can you answer my question regarding my claim, assuming that I am in fact NOT a miller?

[Aureal]

Is this question for Ranger related to your yet-unknown roleclaim?

[Political Clout]

mod hasn't said anything so I'll just assume I can start posting.

[Political Clout]

Roleclaim: I am a miller.

VOTE: ranger

I'm miller.

[camelCasedSnivy]

can you claim then since we all claimed

or are you gonna catch up first

[DkKoba]

Roleclaim: I am a miller.

VOTE: ranger

I'm miller.

you're in the miller family of roles. I'm also miller. Presumably one of the listmods submitted several miller's

[Theta Alpine]

Roleclaim: I am a miller.

VOTE: ranger

I'm miller.

the way this setup works precludes traditional counterclaiming

[Ranger]

Ranger can you answer my question regarding my claim, assuming that I am in fact NOT a miller?

I must have missed it, unless it was the question you yourself said you didn’t understand, after you asked it.

You weren't alone. I can’t parse the question. If it is what you meant, can you try rewording it?

[DragonEater70]

Ranger can you answer my question regarding my claim, assuming that I am in fact NOT a miller?

I must have missed it, unless it was the question you yourself said you didn’t understand, after you asked it.

You weren't alone. I can’t parse the question. If it is what you meant, can you try rewording it?

Okay I'll try to ask in a more direct way: should I fake claim?

[DragonEater70]

Considering that you are fakeclaiming.

[AniX]

Roleclaim: I am a miller.

VOTE: ranger

I'm miller.

This is not a traditional game such that this logic is going to work.

[Theta Alpine]

tldr

we are not in a reviewed game
and some light rng was involved in the selection of roles
which prevents traditional counterclaiming from being viable
there is still some elements in play that can make counterclaiming work on a larger scale but it is rather complicated and not fit for a tldr to explain
or at least it is beyond me to be able to put simply

[Theta Alpine]

Ranger can you answer my question regarding my claim, assuming that I am in fact NOT a miller?

I must have missed it, unless it was the question you yourself said you didn’t understand, after you asked it.

You weren't alone. I can’t parse the question. If it is what you meant, can you try rewording it?

Okay I'll try to ask in a more direct way: should I fake claim?

any fake claim should be done with the knowledge that you will get limmed for fake claiming
if you think the benefits of fake claiming outweigh potentially being limmed for it then go on ahead
otherwise do not

[Theta Alpine]

rautherdir has fake claimed as town before to fake an inno on someone before that was in danger of being limmed
is one of the differences between me and rauth
he tends to be a bit more
i guess bold with his plays

both of us tend to take a mechanical approach to solving games though
we kind of suck at reading people sometimes

[camelCasedSnivy]

arent you rauths alt what

[Ranger]

Considering that you are fakeclaiming.

I’m actually telling the truth about my role. I may have made some assumptions off my questions likely not being optimally worded; to my knowledge, I am telling the truth. I believe spicing things up is detrimental right now, and truthful claims would be best.

If you believe I’m fakeclaiming, then let me know the part in question so I can clarify it.

[Cook]

arent you rauths alt what

i believe theta explained it somewhere

[Political Clout]

VOTE: anix

fos theta.

[AniX]

Are you voting me as part of my plan to kill me to confirm my abilities exist in the meta or are you voting me for some reason you have neglected to share?

[Cook]

Alright, I think I should probably claim now:

I have three one-shot abilities, each of which trigger based on how I vote the previous day:
If I do not vote and do not explain, give notice of, or highlight I am not voting, the following night I can make any action taken by my chosen player that would occur that night happen the next night. This is the subjective mod judgment I was talking about, because what counts as acknowledging is not an objective standard (it even has a mod note to that effect). This is also why I said "we should vote STD" but never actually voted and never recognized anyone who replied to me to say I didn't actually vote.

If I vote for a lot of people (and each vote was on each person for an entire 24 hours), I can choose a player (who has to be someone I voted for) and see who they targeted at night.

If I vote for one person in my first post and never remove my vote and the day lasts for 72 hours, I can vigkill that person that night.

does it have to last exactly 72 hours or would, say, this day count as 72 hours

[AniX]

This day would count (had I voted for someone in my first post, of course), it only has to be at least 72 hours.

[DkKoba]

Roleclaim: I am a miller.

VOTE: ranger

I'm miller.

This is not a traditional game such that this logic is going to work.

Also even if we use normal logic, large normals have multiple millers too. Have been in a game with 2 millers myself. Same role is not a reliable tell

[DkKoba]

VOTE: aureal

I forgot what's been going on in this game but a few hours ago I really wanted to vote this slot

[Doctor Drew]

This day would count (had I voted for someone in my first post, of course), it only has to be at least 72 hours.

What qualifies as 'a lot of people'?

[AniX]

This day would count (had I voted for someone in my first post, of course), it only has to be at least 72 hours.

What qualifies as 'a lot of people'?

Oh, I wrote an earlier draft where I was a bit more vague on specifics and "a lot of" continued into the final draft. It's 5 people I need to vote to activate tracking.