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[skitter30]

(Assuming town-mediea) which i think i'm ok with)

[skitter30]

VC 1.08

medeia (1): Random Nurse
Random Nurse (2): PookyTheMagicalBear, ChicagoTypewriter
ChicagoTypewriter (2): Meuh, skitter30
Meuh (1): ceejayvinoya

Not voting: T3, medeia, Kcdaspot

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate someone. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-07-17 14:12:57).

This was the vc on the prior page
And i think meuh voted t3 on the next page, also at my request

So it's not like he needed to get on wagon before hos partner flipped

And for ct/t3 to be scum, when i offered voting meuh (town), or partner, he chose ro vote partner here

[bloodhail]

lol

fair enough but also i'm not sure that happens because i don't think demona makes that vote and i think T3 might just not be coming back to the game - he's 5 hours out from prod range and i would have zero surprise if he just decided to abandon the game altogether

i don't know wtf anyone can do about that

Fwiw this has basically been the approach to your slot too ...

i mean yeah sure i get it, there's not a lot you can do when two players are basically not playing. i have the benefit of knowing my own alignment though and i can try to deduce T3 via process of elimination from getting reads on everyone else

however if he is town then we're just losing unless he gets replaced. of course he could just as easily wait until he hits his prod and then show up after you're on V/LA which would be super shitty, but i wouldn't put it past him - he replaced onto my team in warrior cats and said he would do things then did fuckall and openly ghosted the scum pt while i was begging him to post. so like i can see him just choosing to lurk out ELO as scum because he's completely frozen.

as it is i think he makes reasonable sense as scum given my current reading of the game though and if i'm getting misted by two of you i'd accept losing to that (i mean obv not that invested in this game but etc etc)

[skitter30]

Honestly could just be t3

[bloodhail]

i guess the alternative is you and pooky doing epic theater to look unaligned lol

[skitter30]

Indeed, t'would be fun

Or from your pov it's one of me/pooky with t3

I really don't know what pooky has been doing literally all game, his reads have been so bad

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my reads cant be bad becauze i have already accused every person in this game of being mafia at one time or another

[skitter30]

>.>
I still can't get over ur rn scumread honestly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

then vote me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

arent u the one who voted him out lol

[bloodhail]

well, he could be a bad guy

or it could just be that he doesn't know anyone's alignment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like in the world of outrageous shit at least i believed he was mafia

[skitter30]

B/c u spent like two dayphases insisting he was scum and that all of the prs couldnt ne town

And again with the egging on me voting you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he got checker guiltied and then claimed jk block on the checker and i was alrdy susp of him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if u truly believe i am mafia you should just vote me

[skitter30]

He was p obvious town tho and i still don't get how u didn't see rhat

Pedit i'm circling back to that honestly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

? i alrdy explained why i am egging you on to vote me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its actually wild you think scum me would be egging you on to vote me rofl

[bloodhail]

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[medeia]

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why'd you choose to show your work this game

at least re:skitter

obviously less so regarding everyone else

[medeia]

also how does anyone ever get past

'oh but he's aware this is how he might replace in as town here...'

[medeia]

though this one is only particularly similar to star trek one

much less so to the others

and even the star trek one was more like, multidirectional

[medeia]

demona

this is actually quite clever if you're a scums (and it's intentional)

like see i was reading angels + demons whyever would scum!me have been doing that

could have also simply been reading angels + demons of course

[bloodhail]

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why'd you choose to show your work this game

at least re:skitter

obviously less so regarding everyone else

hm, well - skitter was the first person i elected to read and i decided to immediately just throw my impressions into the thread as i got them. it's ELO so if someone is scum i do need to case them.

i slowed down and held back a little for a few reasons. first of all, i don't necessarily want to bias myself into deciding the first read i make is correct because if it's wrong that will make it harder for me to find the correct answer. i could spend all day dumping on skitter and if it's wrong i won't give her a chance to change my mind and if it's right it's unlikely to be persuasive. secondly, i'm prioritizing the social dimension here - while i care about getting the right answer i need to feel people out and get to understand their perspective if i am to have any hope of persuading them. at the same time this is allowing me to get reads - while general conventional wisdom is to not read too much into what people say on ELO, i had years of real time chat mafia experience from years ago that say it is possible to get a read on people by how they are playing in an ELO situation.

and so i have been forming reads, i just haven't necessarily been expounding on them at length, because towncasing tends to take more work since there's more subtlety/nuance to it and i don't necessarily want to hijack the game and just go "yeah here's the solve shut up and listen to me". i want to discuss with people, have a dialogue.

if i really wanted to i could vote right now but as said - yall have been in this game for a month, while i've been in it for a day. it feels like it would be incredibly selfish of me to go "yeah i am the one who should be casting a potentially game deciding vote here and not anyone else"

also how does anyone ever get past

'oh but he's aware this is how he might replace in as town here...'

shrug

you can be afraid of losing to me, but from experience playing out of fear does not lead to winning outcomes a majority of the time. or, you can evaluate me on whether my words and actions make sense from a town perspective or not. if you have questions about how i am reading things, feel free to ask me

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demona

this is actually quite clever if you're a scums (and it's intentional)

like see i was reading angels + demons whyever would scum!me have been doing that

could have also simply been reading angels + demons of course

i think i just mentally slipped it because i am reading your iso and you made reference to that alt being in that game - i haven't actually opened up that game myself