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Post Post #4400 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:51 am

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In post 4397, fireisredsir wrote: well yeah thats what i mean

if she's scum then she knows it's very likely true that town will win
oh i just realized this was at me, i just believe that she thinks it's a good thing that town will win
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Post Post #4401 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:57 am

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is tris's page 80 really towny? i really want it to be
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Post Post #4402 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:59 am

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lot going on at work but im finding time helo
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Post Post #4403 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:00 am

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In post 4389, Isis wrote:
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uh oh how you gonna get your nightkill in
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Post Post #4404 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:00 am

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hi can you explain some reads you have

i think i've decided tris's curiosity about what she'd look like as scum in feels genuine
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Post Post #4405 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:02 am

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first can you coach me on how i can position my read explanations in order to maximize my chance of getting nightkilled
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Post Post #4406 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:04 am

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maybe there really is something to the fact that brass came in and launched a doomed campaign against isis and then infinity came in and did the same thing right, like maybe theres a little extra note in the role pm telling them they have to do that
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Post Post #4407 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:05 am

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In post 4404, Infinity 324 wrote: hi can you explain some reads you have

i think i've decided tris's curiosity about what she'd look like as scum in feels genuine
yup looks genuine to me too :thumbs_up:
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Post Post #4408 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:05 am

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kind of fired from the hip in hoping that would turn into the appropriate emojy
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Post Post #4409 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:07 am

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In post 4398, Infinity 324 wrote: why is isis town
i agree that she's made a lot of what feel like scum isis posts and i scumread her for most of the game

i think the reason that feels the most solid to me is the sum of how her and skitter played around each other

actually im typing this out and thinking about it and i think that "skitter scumread isis and push her out of coal, while isis hard townreads skitter and push her into coal" is like a pretty good approach to the game

i dunno

everything i type here feels like im trying to convince mmyself more than anything and thats never a good sign so im gonna reread a little
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Post Post #4410 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:09 am

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you're currently voting tris :/

it did say in my role pm that i win when the mafia are dead

pedit: from what i've seen of isis/skitt interactions they seem about the level of believable that i'd expect from good scumpartners

i didn't think too much about what scum would be trying to accomplish with those posts cause i'm not good at that

quoting stuff that sticks out to you would help
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Post Post #4411 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:12 am

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infinity is taking up the land war against isis
fire sits by the desk poring over the "position isis to get NK'ed plan" by candlelight
tris locks herself in the cathedral praying to datisi that everything will work out
hellbooks follows isis around the village like a sick dog, either hoping to get healed or put down

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Post Post #4412 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:14 am

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this game was so much easier when we were townspewing isis and i could just vote her tomorrow if she didn't get nightkilled but now its too late
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Post Post #4413 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:15 am

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reading back is making me feel bad for pushing sheep through sorry sheep

he probably thinks im scum im not tho
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Post Post #4414 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:15 am

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oops sorry
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Post Post #4415 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:17 am

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it's ok the dream has been dead for a while now i think
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Post Post #4416 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:24 am

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if hellbooks gets nightkilled then
Spoiler: spoiler for another dimension's game
at least the library town wins
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Post Post #4417 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:26 am

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ok so say yorue infinity and your scum
what do you do.
the situation at hand is that tris and fire and helly are various degrees of willing to vote you maybe today
and only isis isnt

so you could simply position yourself to go ahead and hammer tris. then you kill helly and win against fire in ELO. this is what you could consider a conventional path forward. in fact i cant see why you wouldnt do this unless you're not confident that the simple act of opportunistically pushing tris who then flips green wont randomly cause isis to turn against you and deadsheep tris

maybe you feel like you gotta do something big to turn the tide of public opinion
so you like try and capitalize on fire's isisDoubt in order to provide a backup ELO scenario in which you and fire put a lim through on isis
and trust that the deadline inertia will result in tris getting mislimmed today
but thats a lot of trust to put in that result, espeically when you're actively putting forth the optics of defending tris at the same time and trying to get people to unvote her

and limming isis today would kind of be a losing move for you
so idk it kind of seems like too much of a contrived explanation for infinity's actions here if scum
unless you're counting on this very move to get people on your side for its sheer unpredictability. but of course that explanation will always be in consideration like "maybe scum is just doing unpredictable shit to stir up disharmony and strife" so at some point you gotta set boundaries for what is likely or not
and idk it definitely seems notably unlikely to me

especially two seperate scums deciding to go with the same kind of difficult-to-execute Scumplan
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Post Post #4418 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:33 am

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rereading skitter iso and her starting out by strong townreading isis while isis says she wants to leave skitter out bc she's hard for her to read

but then thread scumreads isis overall significantly more than skitter, with skitter stocks gradually rising

gradually transitioning into skitter softening her tr, and then isis hard defending and townreading skitter, and then eventually skitter outright scumreading isis

and then isis hammering the losing coalition

sure is making me concerned a little

i guess i will take this thought more seriously ughhh
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Post Post #4419 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:35 am

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In post 50, skitter30 wrote: HEAL: isis
In post 150, skitter30 wrote:
In post 99, Thestatusquo wrote: The more I investigate the insides of my bowels the more I am kinda sus of Isis.
no
you'd think that skitter would know that responding to shea here with just "no" would have the opposite effect but maybe not
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Post Post #4420 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 3345, fireisredsir wrote: town:

[ari hellbooks isis shea me]

scum:

[sheep tris skitter brassherald]


hm this doesn't seem right

this shakes out to be one scum in the top group and one in the bottom group at least 8 times out of 10 imo
i remember coming across this post when going back to appreciate my flavor understanding
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Post Post #4421 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:40 am

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i have attempted the "i have doubts on this person (who by the way has been sitting on a scum of me all game) but a lot of people think she's town so let's try to just theadspew her as town and hope she gets nightkilled and then if she doesn't we can lim her in elo" strategy before btw

any guesses on how successful that was
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Post Post #4422 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:41 am

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sitting on a scumread*
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Post Post #4423 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:45 am

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Spoiler: spoiler for a past game
i got limmed prior to elo and she was scum who won in f3
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Post Post #4424 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:47 am

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if you all let me live to f3 im literally going to be scum and win in it
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