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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:57 pm

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In post 1097, RH9 wrote:
In post 1096, Dunnstral wrote: I do think is a weird perspective to have if you are a VT. I get that you will say that it slipped your mind but how?
I said 2 VTs as a reaction test to see if scum would take the bait and treat it as a slip, which seemed to have happened.
I feel like it might've gotten a bit out of hand, though.
and if you are town, this is a really bad "bait."

just like, for future reference or what ever
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:58 pm

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In post 1099, RH9 wrote:
In post 1098, Lukewarm wrote: Hey RH, if you are scum here, the believable answer would have been "oh, I forgot about Bell"

just like, for future reference or what ever
But I didn't forget Bell.
If you are scum, you get to lie. that is the neat thing about being scum.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:59 pm

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The more truthful answer would've been it was a slip of the tongue that I lied was a reaction test to save face.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:02 pm

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Because I couldn't explain it.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:02 pm

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In post 1102, RH9 wrote: The more truthful answer would've been it was a slip of the tongue that I lied was a reaction test to save face.
yeah.

It was very clear that you were lying about it being a reaction test.

And if you are town, that puts us into a bad position, because the simple answer to seeing someone very obviously lying about something is that they are scum.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:03 pm

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In post 1104, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1102, RH9 wrote: The more truthful answer would've been it was a slip of the tongue that I lied was a reaction test to save face.
yeah.

It was very clear that you were lying about it being a reaction test.

And if you are town, that puts us into a bad position, because the simple answer to seeing someone very obviously lying about something is that they are scum.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:15 pm

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I kind of want to believe that the whole series of missteps from RH just now are to bad to truly come from scum, and actually more likely to have come from Embarrassed From Making A Mistake, Town RH.

But I'm gonna think on it. We just started the day, and we still gotta finish mass claim before we have to figure out the elim for the day anyways, so we have time.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:35 am

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In post 1092, Lukewarm wrote: Wow, how crazy that you are both going to bed when it is between 10:30 PM to 1:30 AM in the US.

What *are* the odds that you would both be going to bed right now?

It might just blow your mind to learn, that I am posting this while lying in my bed for the night too.
hey hey don't sell us short it was 1:20-1:21 AM, your time period is too big
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:35 am

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I find it really hard to believe that RH9 was reaction testing
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:56 am

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In post 1108, SirCakez wrote: I find it really hard to believe that RH9 was reaction testing
He has already said that he was not reaction testing, but
In post 1102, RH9 wrote: The more truthful answer would've been it was a slip of the tongue that I lied was a reaction test to save face.
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Because I couldn't explain it.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:06 am

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????
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:35 am

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Vote Count 2.1




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The classic followup to yesterday's Pierson v. Post. We established in that case that the hunter in pursuit doesn't own the fox, only the hunter who has it in hand. It's time to take another trip across the pond to England.

Samuel Keeble owned a meadow that he used to catch ducks via an elaborate system of nets and diverting water channels. He makes a good living out of it. Enter Mr. Edmund Hickeringill, his lovely new neighbor and noted eccentric. At some point, the two got into a dispute, perhaps over Hickeringill's earlier construction of a competing decoy pond, and Hickeringill became determined to annoy Keeble however he could.

Regretfully barred from becoming a true Florida man by a lack of temporal alignment, Hickeringill still did his best to channel the same energy. With nothing better to do, he waited outside all day on his own property, watching for ducks venturing into the adjoining Keeble's pond trap. He would then shoot his gun to scare the ducks away. Keeble sued alleging deprivation of his personal property-the ducks.

Unfortunately for Keeble, just like the fox pursuer in Pierson, Keeble didn't actually own the ducks yet. Hickeringill wasn't trespassing or depriving him of his property by scaring the ducks away.

However, just like in Pierson v. Post, the Court thought heavily about the incentives of the case. After a lengthy discussion about the value of the pond for its role in supplying the tables of England, and the principles of fair and unfair competition, the court instead found against Hickeringill by calling it a private nuisance: Hickeringill was depriving Keeble of the quiet enjoyment and profitable use of his land.


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With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-18 12:30:00).


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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:29 am

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idk something about RH9 being SO honest about his VT slip almost makes me think it actually was town?? Like this is some shit I'd pull after forgetting half my role or something and slipping. I just don't even know what to make of this.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:50 am

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hi ho, I am Prism's roommate and I am a VT

I am just checking in quickly for now but I should have more time to play this afternoon, this week has been super busy

I agree with Pooky's logic that there must be a scum in {Cakez, Luke, Dunn} based on the claims

I need to re-ISO Dunn and remember how he landed on Ydra yesterday
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:53 am

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re:RH9, I think it's a slip. I'd be maybe inclined to buy a "lying to save face" explanation if he hadn't also tried to shade the people who picked up on the slip in

RH9 who do you think is scum?
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:18 am

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Cakez hasn't even claimed his role yet, how can you think there must be mafia within the 3 of us?
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:30 am

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That makes no sense to me. I feel if you are mafia this is something you have to push to win, but it's hard for me to see how a townie believes that. The logic doesn't really go together. And Luke is confirmed™ to be a tracker at least but there is no consideration there.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:38 am

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In post 1115, Dunnstral wrote: Cakez hasn't even claimed his role yet, how can you think there must be mafia within the 3 of us?
uhh

I'm a VT, Bell and Ydra are VTs

if you three are town and telling the truth that leaves only RH9+the miller claims as possible scum

and that would mean either it's exactly Pooky+Meuh doing a double miller claim gambit or at least one of the miller claims is true, which would further mean Miller+3PRs in a 9 player game, leaving 2 scum and 3 VTs. that just doesn't feel likely on the whole
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 1116, Dunnstral wrote: And Luke is confirmed™ to be a tracker at least but there is no consideration there.
either you or Luke could be scum - Luke being confirmed to be a tracker isn't indicative of alignment other than being somewhat +town for Luke for not lying about his night action.

also mafia shooting at an unknown in Bell vs any of the claimed roles is further wonk indicating that something is off here
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:55 am

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Balance wise Luke is town, or else town has a 1-shot doctor and a miller or two, plus SirCakes role

Again, SirCakez hasn't claimed yet so you are jumping to conclusions that don't make sense with what we currently know.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:58 am

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In post 1117, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1115, Dunnstral wrote: Cakez hasn't even claimed his role yet, how can you think there must be mafia within the 3 of us?
uhh

I'm a VT, Bell and Ydra are VTs

if you three are town and telling the truth that leaves only RH9+the miller claims as possible scum

and that would mean either it's exactly Pooky+Meuh doing a double miller claim gambit or at least one of the miller claims is true, which would further mean Miller+3PRs in a 9 player game, leaving 2 scum and 3 VTs. that just doesn't feel likely on the whole
I don't see what is wrong with the possible setup at the end.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:00 am

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In post 1119, Dunnstral wrote: Again, SirCakez hasn't claimed yet so you are jumping to conclusions that don't make sense with what we currently know.
SirCakez is the one who initially said things don't make sense with his role and that he wants to hunt in the PRs...
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:03 am

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You said you were agreeing with Pooky, not SirCakez.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:04 am

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like either your perspective is skewed because you're town or you're just maf here, but from where I'm sitting there's 100% scum in millers+PRs, and it's odd that your first instinct is to discredit that

p-edit: I agree with both lol
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:05 am

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In post 1123, GuiltyLion wrote: like either your perspective is skewed because you're town
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