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[T3]

"My students... they say Linear Algebra is easy... but then we get to eigenvectors and it is important you do it right! I know ballet!"

Day 1 VC 2:

Flavor Leaf (5): BBMolla, Klazam, Flavor Leaf, ZZZX, Hu Tao
furtiveglance (3): Psyche, biancospino, the worst
Psyche (2): shaddowez, TemporalLich
Flavia (1): camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): Naerys
Merlyn (1): davesaz
Hu Tao (1): Merlyn
ZZZX (1): Save The Dragons
Random Nurse (1): iamveryhappy
Klazam (1): Shrek
Not voting (6): Random Nurse, KittyTacky, Flavia, bob3141, furtiveglance, JacksonVirgo

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 and the worst are V/LA. Also wow, I forgot how annoying doing VC's is

[davesaz]

An early d1 self vote is hardly giving up. It's most likely to be a joke, and if he's scum it's the perfect time to try to look townie.

[camelCasedSnivy]

eigenvectors

VOTE: Psyche

[Flavor Leaf]

Dave’s got a point

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Hu Tao comes off the scummiest on my wagon, but not sure if I’m ready to commit that way yet.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Bbmolla is scum, they were able to successfully mist themself.

Zzzx feels a bit jokey with it, which I think is leak town.

Klazam, idk. Probably town?

[TemporalLich]

flavor leaf what even is this gambit

[TemporalLich]

I do think furtiveglance is more likely to be scum than flavor leaf, but I still think Psyche is the most likely scum

An early d1 self vote is hardly giving up. It's most likely to be a joke, and if he's scum it's the perfect time to try to look townie.

this is indeed a good point

I still think Flavor Leaf is town for that gambit as it is a risky play for scum

[Psyche]

do you believe scum is that scummy and would self-vote

um yeah? being incoherent and aloof is one of the most low effort styles as scum. you don't have to (pretend to scum) scumhunt, defend positions, or worry about your consistency across posts. since it can be easily as hard to distinguish lazy town from scum as to distinguish high-effort town and from scum, you barely lose anything from this strategy beyond a risk that town defaults to limming you when they can't settle on someone more positively scummy.

[TemporalLich]

if you're planning your posts and calling towntells scummy, you don't have a town mindset

[TemporalLich]

I'm only saying flavor leaf is town because that gambit is too scummy to be scum

[Psyche]

no lich actually has a decent point there, i can’t possibly see flavor leaf giving up after a d1 wagon emerges. that’s a really weird argument to make on your part iavh

this is a non sequitor
the claim by lich is specifically that self voting makes him more

town

and this doesn't even address the relative likelihood of FL doing that as one faction or as another

[Flavor Leaf]

flavor leaf what even is this gambit

what gambit, im just vibin

[TemporalLich]

okay I'll have to post my logic for the flavor leaf townread:

premise one: self-voting is anti-town
premise B: Flavor Leaf self-voted early Day 1
premise triangle: scum would not want to make risky plays early Day 1
conclusion: Flavor Leaf town

pedit: your self-vote and self-scumcase gambit

[Flavor Leaf]

im just genuine af

[Psyche]

no lich actually has a decent point there, i can’t possibly see flavor leaf giving up after a d1 wagon emerges. that’s a really weird argument to make on your part iavh

gonna quote this as I agree with this post and it is a towny post

can you explain what makes shrek's post towny here?

[Naerys]

Perhaps thats what he wants you to think

[TemporalLich]

I've heard people claim scum before, you're going to have to try harder to get me to scumread you

pedit: it is a scumread on iavh that I agree with

ppedit: I'll note that in case flavor leaf scum

[Naerys]

iavh is as much weird as in the mini i played with him, might be town

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont see this as TempScum, though. Weird pocket white knight defense if so, and I just don't think that's worth it.

I get off vibes from Psyche, but I think it's just their playstyle.

dave's meta of me is interesting, feel like they know me too well, which does make sense, I guess, but still weird to see every meta post I see dave make nowadays is solid.

[shaddowez]

Anyone not specifically listed - hard null due to lack of content

Null's a good place to be right now. I promise I'll post more content during the week.

I'm having a hard time deciding on how I feel about ZZZX from 105 and 115. The vote on Flavor feels jokey, but could be a good scum tactic to get his vote on a train and hope something comes from it. However, with it being such a large game we're nowhere close to a hammer, so an "accidental" lynch isn't really within grasp either. The fact he keeps bringing up Psyche but isn't voting him adds to this. Need to revisit this.

(Kids just came back in, hopefully more later but most likely tomorrow)

[TemporalLich]

psyche literally called being incoherent scummy, psyche does not have town mindset

[Flavor Leaf]

im just tryna coast until later and solve.

there's no way I live through to the end of this game in most scenarios with 2 scum night kills.

[Naerys]

anyone else having a gut feeling that a scum might be hidden on FL wagon?

[Psyche]

I'm only saying flavor leaf is town because that gambit is too scummy to be scum

What you're missing IMO is that prospect that people like you will think things like this is why scum often play this way. They can coast along and do really little and people will think there's no way they could be so daring. If a supposed towntell is really easy to perform without little effort, then it's not a very good towntell. It relies on players not being aware of the tell in the first place.