Micro 1091 - Prism v. 1L Year [Game Over]

[Prism]

Vote Count 2.2

Int'l Shoe Co. v. Washington

, 326 U.S. 310 (1945).

How do you terrorize a law student? The answer, as always, lies in civil procedure. Simply say the words "Erie", "Pennoyer", and "International Shoe", and you will watch any 1L disappear in a flash. These words are the sacred names of boogeymen that are unfortunately all too real.

International Shoe is the modern foundation for the authority of American courts to decide a matter and call a defendant to account, or to establish the court's personal jurisdiction over the defendant. Historically, in a simpler time, it was very simple for a court to decide whether it had authority to make a judgement against a defendant: Was the defendant served with notice of the lawsuit while withing the state's boundaries? If so, they needed to show up and answer to the court.

This worked really well in the 1700s and 1800s, when jurisdiction hopping was difficult and commerce very restrained. As the industrial age powered on full steam ahead, this rule became less practical. Visiting motorists were hitting pedestrians then driving home, out of reach of the state's courts, giving rise to the idea of implied consent to lawsuits and jurisdiction. Next, the International Shoe Company hired salesmen in Washington, but purposely kept its decision-making apparatus and officers outside of the state and kept no permanent mailing address in Washington as a means to dodge its state employer taxes.

But what were the Washington courts to do about it? Taking up the question of how fair this arrangement really was, the Supreme Court declared a more liberal limit on personal jurisdiction in the modern era: it is reasonable for a state court to exercise jurisdiction over a defendant when they establish "certain minimum contacts with [the state] such that the maintenance of the suit does not offend 'traditional notions of fair play and substantial justice".

Everyone, law students and Supreme Court justices alike, has been trying to figure out what that vague jumble of words means ever since.

Player	Votes
RH9 (2)	SirCakez (1089), Lukewarm (1289)
Dunnstral (1)	Meuh (1182)
Meuh (1)	Dunnstral (1303)
Not Voting (3)	PookyTheMagicalBear, RH9 (1136), GuiltyLion (1246)

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-18 12:30:00).

Combined Prism & fferyllt Mod ISO

[Dunnstral]

So is there any interest in a Meuh elimination?

Otherwise I will probably switch back to RH9.

[Lukewarm]

RH9 and Meuh are currently the only 2 I would be interested in.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

same

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[SirCakez]

VOTE: meuh whatever i feel like this is the best shot of hitting scum rn
GL vs RH9 feels like a coinflip
Pooky has read very town to me for pretty much the whole game
And then I've already talked about why I think Luke and Dunn are town

[Meuh]

I don't think your posting matches up with your purported mood

nevr, jusge a book by its cover...

[Meuh]

VOTE: RH9 I'd rather not die

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think your posting matches up with your purported mood

nevr, jusge a book by its cover...

yea im sure when you were posting cat memes you were really depressed that your mindmeld buddy got bounced out of the game and dogpiled on

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

guiltylion where you at homie stop hiding in the trees

[Meuh]

I don't think your posting matches up with your purported mood

nevr, jusge a book by its cover...

yea im sure when you were posting cat memes you were really depressed that your mindmeld buddy got bounced out of the game and dogpiled on

Spoiler:

Me when I was posting that cat gif

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you can't expect those cheap tricks you used on Shirou to work on me

my heart is made of stone

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Meuh

I can't get myself to buy that catboi's rep out comes from scum

especially since this is literally Prism's game, it just feels like that'd be such poor form to do that as mafia

and I think Meuh didn't care if the RH9 lim went through or not

[GuiltyLion]

I'll be around for like 30 min if anyone else is online rn but it's been a long busy day and I am tired - I will def be around and available tomorrow

[Lukewarm]

Does the fact that all of [GL, Dunn, Cakez] have voiced a meuh preference, when given a fairly even choice between Meuh and RH, mean that going for RH first the correct choice?

Because from my pov, that means either:
-pooky is scum,
- RH+Meuh is then scum team, so order does not matter, or
-a member of the scum team just choose Meuh when they could have taken RH (and could have framed it as having liked my case, and wanting to work with the Mechanically Town Player )

[Lukewarm]

And I just don't see why any if those 3 would feel like they need to bus here, when RH should look like a pretty good miselim option right now.

Like, their vote puts rh at e-1, while every player other then GL has said they would be down for the RH elim.

And with that many people down for the rh elim, it's hard for any one player to look particularly bad for it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am lowkey kind of concerned this is the second time GuiltyLion has decided to make his vote at the end based on "the other person is probably not scum because X so I'm gonna vote Y"

[Lukewarm]

I am lowkey kind of concerned this is the second time GuiltyLion has decided to make his vote at the end based on "the other person is probably not scum because X so I'm gonna vote Y"

Which other vote gave you this impression?

[Prism]

Alisae replaces RH9. Welcome!

24 hours have been added to the deadline. The new deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-19 12:30:00).

[Alisae]

ya so uh i plan on sleeping soon
but hi
i am here now

[SirCakez]

hi alisae are you scum

[Alisae]

I am aligned with overwatch players because for some reason I have this game downloaded and I am playing it while waiting for seasonal anime to be out

[Alisae]

that is basically the same thing as being aligned with the mafia

[Lukewarm]

Can 1 person unvote meuh?

Not sure I like Ali having hammer power here

[Lukewarm]

Also, hi Ali!