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Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:06 pm

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In post 2173, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2172, Random Nurse wrote: ...

VOTE: ZZZX
Do you think ZZZX's post is scummy despite the self-vote?

The self-vote makes that post unsortable imo

To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
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Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:06 pm

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Is it common for someone to just be almost entirely negative throughout the entire game?
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Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:07 pm

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In post 2176, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is it common for someone to just be almost entirely negative throughout the entire game?

Who is this directed towards?
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Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:08 pm

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In post 2177, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2176, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is it common for someone to just be almost entirely negative throughout the entire game?

Who is this directed towards?
Psyche lol, but ig the new page made it difficult to know I was making a quip at what he last said
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Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:12 pm

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i guess im in a bad mood. it feels like a game of tag where no one's in the mood to run. suppose if i want to have fun my best bet is to match the vibe but
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Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:14 pm

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In post 2175, Random Nurse wrote:To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
I was thinking it is Town who would self-vote
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Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:16 pm

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In post 2180, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2175, Random Nurse wrote:To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
I was thinking it is Town who would self-vote

Please explain this thought process to me in detail.
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Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:23 pm

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In post 2181, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2180, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2175, Random Nurse wrote:To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
I was thinking it is Town who would self-vote

Please explain this thought process to me in detail.
scum wouldn't want to self-vote as it would be too risky and bring attention

town can afford to make risky and flashy plays
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Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:24 pm

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In post 2174, Psyche wrote: is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them dies
Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that I
told you so
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Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:25 pm

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In post 2175, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2173, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2172, Random Nurse wrote: ...

VOTE: ZZZX
Do you think ZZZX's post is scummy despite the self-vote?

The self-vote makes that post unsortable imo

To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
Sue me

It is a NAI, at most a meta read for specific players, but I mean, go for it.
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Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:25 pm

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In post 2176, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is it common for someone to just be almost entirely negative throughout the entire game?
How so?
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Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:26 pm

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In post 2182, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2181, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 2180, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2175, Random Nurse wrote:To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
I was thinking it is Town who would self-vote

Please explain this thought process to me in detail.
scum wouldn't want to self-vote as it would be too risky and bring attention

town can afford to make risky and flashy plays
- zzzx is already guaranteed attention. the slot by far has the most votes on it and deadline is coming up
- scum frequently benefit from risky and flashy plays because of this exact impression. are you familiar with the concept of WIFOM?
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Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:32 pm

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As I understand it Scum would vote themselves to deny Town information. They can do it sooner than L-1 if they think their demise is evident.
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Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:32 pm

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I've heard of WIFOM but haven't noticed it in practice

but yeah good point, ZZZX's risky play is still very calculated so I think the ZZZX wagon is still a good wagon
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Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:36 pm

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In post 2183, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2174, Psyche wrote: is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them dies
Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that I
told you so
i don't know how you can think you did your due diligence while going out of your way to facilitate a supposed mislim
even re: self-satisfaction, can't imagine that your self satisfaction in this scenario would not be better maximized if you were limmed with your vote actually on scum
but all this is beside the question of whether you're actually town i guess
zzzzzzz
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Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:41 pm

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In post 2183, ZZZX wrote:
In post 2174, Psyche wrote: is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them dies
Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that I
told you so
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Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:43 pm

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*skim skim*

Meh im not entirely sold on the zzzx thing. The selfvote annoys me, but i dont think its alignment indicative. I do feel a bit off at a few of these posts.

Guess i wont be upset about zx being gone, but I wanna ask one thing -

Why are we NOT elimming TL?

From following along on the past few days, TL is the person who keeps on pinging my scumdar. Sure there's no votes on TL, meaning probably not a viable wagon at this point

VOTE: TemporalLich Just for the record

But still, this feels like scum.
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Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:45 pm

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In post 2191, Klazam wrote: *skim skim*

Meh im not entirely sold on the zzzx thing. The selfvote annoys me, but i dont think its alignment indicative. I do feel a bit off at a few of these posts.

Guess i wont be upset about zx being gone, but I wanna ask one thing -

Why are we NOT elimming TL?

From following along on the past few days, TL is the person who keeps on pinging my scumdar. Sure there's no votes on TL, meaning probably not a viable wagon at this point

VOTE: TemporalLich Just for the record

But still, this feels like scum.

What are the main reasons for it?
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Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:46 pm

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small dig into zzzx's meta around self-votes indicates plenty readiness to self-vote as town based on similar reasoning to the above, but also as scum presumably to deny information. so in isolation the self vote is NAI. coooool
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Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:57 pm

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somewhat deeper dig leads me to even say it's more common for zzzx to do this self-vote-and-bargain thing as town. as scum, the self-votes are terse hammers.
don't relish saying it i'd probably bet he's town in this scenario. i'd invite anyone on his wagon to take their own look. will look askance at people who don't tbh
but yall don't wanna hear me you just wanna dance

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Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:58 pm

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In post 2134, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2027, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact
Why can't I just be misguided town? The fact that you immediately think I'm scum is what's worse for you.
The reason why is in the second line of my post...
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Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:27 pm

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In post 2191, Klazam wrote: *skim skim*

Meh im not entirely sold on the zzzx thing. The selfvote annoys me, but i dont think its alignment indicative. I do feel a bit off at a few of these posts.

Guess i wont be upset about zx being gone, but I wanna ask one thing -

Why are we NOT elimming TL?

From following along on the past few days, TL is the person who keeps on pinging my scumdar. Sure there's no votes on TL, meaning probably not a viable wagon at this point

VOTE: TemporalLich Just for the record

But still, this feels like scum.
youre too late.

BBm and I were voting them for a while and people hard defended them, but they possibly slipped that ZZZx/Psyche were their partners, so zzzx is fine.
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Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:28 pm

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Also, ZZZx claimed Vanilla so might as well power it through.

We are officially in a worst case scenario, they flip vanilla, and we have little to no claims in a large. That's a win.
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Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:31 pm

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Spoiler: for sanity
In post 1550, TemporalLich wrote: okay I think the ZZZX wagon is at least somewhat fair, but I'm not really wanting to join that wagon either

CSF has some reasoning in
In post 1587, TemporalLich wrote: I mean yeah I guess but the scummy wagon on ZZZX means ZZZX is town so I'm not willing to vote ZZZX
In post 1588, TemporalLich wrote: and I actually think Aisa is scummier for joining the ZZZX wagon with no good reason
In post 1914, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 1913, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 1869, TemporalLich wrote: also this means Hu Tao is a strong townread, due to that setup spec scumslip
Why would that make me town? Don't understand. Say he was scum, could I not just be other scum?
I don't want to retract a strong townread as that would be waffling and I'd be completely hopeless to stop my lim
In post 1971, TemporalLich wrote: ZZZX is hard null, which is below Aisa and above Flavor Leaf
In post 2075, TemporalLich wrote: VOTE: ZZZX

Eh what's the worst that could happen?
In post 2163, TemporalLich wrote: as for me, I'm voting ZZZX as the day needs to end shorter rather than later for the benefit of town
In post 2188, TemporalLich wrote: I've heard of WIFOM but haven't noticed it in practice

but yeah good point, ZZZX's risky play is still very calculated so I think the ZZZX wagon is still a good wagon


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For me it’s more feel based - been feeling pings from this slot (I don’t wanna put too much effort in this) - I went and iso’d TL again, skimmed through. I was actually suprised to see that TL flopped hard on the Zx wagon- calling it a badwagon , then going eh let’s do it, might as well.

I also quoted a example ( the post with “I will be accused of waffling and can’t stop my elim”) of a post type that TL has been making, so utterly self conscious, I hate these.
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Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:35 pm

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In post 2194, Psyche wrote: somewhat deeper dig leads me to even say it's more common for zzzx to do this self-vote-and-bargain thing as town. as scum, the self-votes are terse hammers.
don't relish saying it i'd probably bet he's town in this scenario. i'd invite anyone on his wagon to take their own look. will look askance at people who don't tbh
but yall don't wanna hear me you just wanna dance

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search.php?keywords=%22vote%3A+zzzx%22& ... mit=Search
This post is flipping my option on zzzx, actually. (Or at least pushing it leantownish instead of neutralscummy)

Flavor- I dislike the implication of forcing through a mis elim just to do it. We have some time, I’d like to see if we have a chance at TL. I was unconvinced at the time y’all wanted it to be TL but posting has changed my mind lately. Might be true for other people here.

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