Open 883 - Swinger's Hall

[Dannflor]

And Dann, you don't think my gut reads aren't based on meta?

it's not really what i said and i feel like again you're like "here's an inconsistency!!" and acting like that makes me wrong instead of trying to solve my alignment or anyone else's

[Dannflor]

SirCakez - Dannflor
RH9 - Klick
Aristeia - Infinity 324
Ydrasse - Ausuka
Meuh - Alisae
yessiree - Doctor Drew

this is probably where I am at, ordered in terms of preferred pair elimination today

my individual reads aren't like a ton different

[Dannflor]

VOTE: yessiree / doctor drew

[Aristeia]

but maybe she rolled a really hype scum team that would suck

this is so lamisty

do you have any scumreads dann

[Aristeia]

334 feels like Drew trying to catch Klick out on a perceived logical inconsistency in his read progression

I find this type of focus on logical inconsistencies and logical reads in particular to come from scum a lot more often than town. It's just much more natural for scum to latch onto than any other kind of read (like tone)

there is a possibility that drew is town and having enormous difficulty getting into the game, and that by scum reading this post I am just freezing him out even more

but i think the simpler answer trends towards drew just being scum

kind of hate how hedgy this is tbh

[Dannflor]

I guess I would advocate for lile a ydrasse / alisae double flip tomorrow?

but i’d probably reevaluate more than that if this were to flip double town today

[Dannflor]

I probably would not have been relaxed enough to make such hedgy posts as scum

I’m just working through my feelings

But yea I kinda scum read ydrasse, alisae, yessiree and drew to varying degrees

[Dannflor]

Why did you conclude I don’t have scum reads

[Aristeia]

can you elaborate on why Klick is town?

[Aristeia]

Why did you conclude I don’t have scum reads

you don't feel like you believe in one person being scum specifically with any degree of confidence

it feels like you're just pointing to a section of the game with people and saying "there's probably scum over there let's just flip there"

[Aristeia]

even the person you put the most words to as in why they might be scum(drew) feels like a very hedgy read

[Dannflor]

yeah I'm not always great at projecting confidence

I'm most confident in drew being scum right now

i think the most concise way to put it is that I don't think klick is being very careful in his posting

[Aristeia]

I'd appreciate if you could explain why you believe Klick is not being very careful and also why it points to Klick being town.

[Aristeia]

Ydrasse your memory is probably accurate but is missing the context of me losing faith in the process of explaining my half-baked thoughts actually being effective at anything helpful

That might be true for you but I feel like I'd just get a bunch of question marks and votes from enough people in the game to make it not worth

like this exchange with Ydrasse when she pushed him for raw thoughts kind of shows his mindset is to curate what he is putting out in the thread instead of sharing his thoughts.

[Klick]

speaking of tone reads

I kind of town read the indignant tone in Cakez' posting

it's not a great read and probably a better avenue is to see how often he makes that kind of frustrated rage quit post as either alignment but that's the fuzzy feels i'm getting right now

This is pretty similar to what I said about Cakez earlier yeah

[Dannflor]

some of it is wording, like I don't think he's rereading his posts before pressing send or choosing his words super carefully

337 and 339 gave me that impression - he is throwing out a ton of stances, some hedgy and some not

even reading back his early game response to you and me, i feel like it was pretty reactive and not like... careful with regards to how he would come off.

okay so I swear I read through white flag and Klick had made some post at the end talking about he gets anxious about playing mafia and I think I just totally hallucinated that

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I found this post but it's not really the same thing

I guess I would say tonally klick kinda seems like he's enjoying solving this game. the read is weaker than I thought though

I also just generally like/agree with his takes

[Dannflor]

Ydrasse your memory is probably accurate but is missing the context of me losing faith in the process of explaining my half-baked thoughts actually being effective at anything helpful

That might be true for you but I feel like I'd just get a bunch of question marks and votes from enough people in the game to make it not worth

like this exchange with Ydrasse when she pushed him for raw thoughts kind of shows his mindset is to curate what he is putting out in the thread instead of sharing his thoughts.

I guess

I'll reread Klick tonight and see if I can give you a more tangible case one way or another

[Klick]

I align pretty heavily with Dann atm

[Aristeia]

I highly doubt you and Dann share an alignment. if you're town he's probably just mafia.

[Klick]

Right but you don't have a very strong basis upon which to rest that read

[Klick]

Anyway when I said 'I align with Dann' I didn't mean that I think we share an alignment (though that's also where I'm at atm)
I meant that I find myself in a very similar headspace

He seems to have an accurate read on my actions as well

[Infinity 324]

dann keeps posting surface level town things that I don't get town vibes from and I want to scumread that

[Aristeia]

Anyway when I said 'I align with Dann' I didn't mean that I think we share an alignment (though that's also where I'm at atm)
I meant that I find myself in a very similar headspace

He seems to have an accurate read on my actions as well

Dann's been trying to kill you for the last two days and he only switched direction after the momentum died down and the thread direction changed

[Klick]

but maybe she rolled a really hype scum team that would suck

this is so lamisty

do you have any scumreads dann

334 feels like Drew trying to catch Klick out on a perceived logical inconsistency in his read progression

I find this type of focus on logical inconsistencies and logical reads in particular to come from scum a lot more often than town. It's just much more natural for scum to latch onto than any other kind of read (like tone)

there is a possibility that drew is town and having enormous difficulty getting into the game, and that by scum reading this post I am just freezing him out even more

but i think the simpler answer trends towards drew just being scum

kind of hate how hedgy this is tbh

I don't read either of these posts this way

You see LAMISTy, I see feelings

You see hedgy, I see nuance

[Klick]

dann keeps posting surface level town things that I don't get town vibes from and I want to scumread that

I am not reading his current stuff as surface level but that could be because it is very close to what I'm already thinking