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With 5 alive, it takes 3 to hammer.

Votes

Not Voting (5):

JacksonVirgo, the worst, Random Nurse, ZZZX, AnimatedWiz

Notes

• The Deadline is due in (expired on 2023-09-24 23:16:26)
  
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[JacksonVirgo]

none of these present as earnest scumreads. there is also a marked difference in the way jackson manoeuvres around zzzx's slot vs. the way they talk about my slot and passenger. they are doing as much as they can to keep doors for potential eliminations open, rather than actually find townreads & limit the pool of suspects.

the way they ignore the conversation about a potential 2x scum hood is also pinging because fmpov it's clearly in jackson's best interest to let that wifom live on in the hopes that if they are caught, i'm still a viable misyeet after them.

You say I haven't presented as earnest scum-reads, which is just false. It was clear I SR ZZZ for what he's done, and then Passenger for being called out on a pure lie that I noticed. You're misrepresenting my entire D2 position, stop that.

[JacksonVirgo]

Plus you forget all the work I put in when I came into the game when nothing socially was ever happening.
D1 ended prematurely and then the game decided to focus on a mass-claim. So I had to sift through RVS and then D2 mech-plays.

Don't act like I should have been able to be on my top scum-reading game with so little to go off.

[JacksonVirgo]

I wonder if it could be a Worst/ZZZX team.

Yeah those two and then Passenger were like my decided 2/3 PoE. Mostly due to me not thinking anybody else could be wolf apart from those three. I TR you, I TR steady, I TR wiz. I SR ZZZ I null-read blue at the time.

I didn't really see a world where those weren't the case, I guess until you cased up wiz yesterday but that's all cleared up now.

[Random Nurse]

I still have questions regarding heipizhu replacement.

Thus my gut points at your slot, Virgo.

[JacksonVirgo]

I still have questions regarding heipizhu replacement.

Thus my gut points at your slot, Virgo.

What are those questions

[Random Nurse]

I still have questions regarding heipizhu replacement.

Thus my gut points at your slot, Virgo.

Can't discuss further.

What are those questions

[Random Nurse]

Can't discuss further.

[JacksonVirgo]

Uhh, ok

[JacksonVirgo]

You ignore every single time I try and get your thoughts on the game state and now you refuse to elaborate why you gut-ping me. Kinda frustrating in limlo

[AnimatedWiz]

Replacing heipizhu4.

Please do not discuss this action.

I’m pretty sure this is the reason Random Nurse is alluding to—we can’t speculate on the reasons people have replaced.

[Random Nurse]

You ignore every single time I try and get your thoughts on the game state and now you refuse to elaborate why you gut-ping me. Kinda frustrating in limlo

That's fine.

[JacksonVirgo]

Do you not have thoughts outside of the replacement?

[the worst]

i also think blue was really towny? their day one posts weren't exactly groundbreaking, but i don't think their reads presented as made-up and i think it's noticeable that they were approaching this game from a perspective of sorting alignments, not a perspective of making friends and getting by. their day two posts also feel really pure from where i stand - they read as someone who was manipulated, not the manipulator.

If you don’t mind me asking, who do you feel manipulated Blue?

Also, it seems to me like the general consensus is some combination of ZZZX, Jackson, and worst is our scumteam, which isn’t horrible odds for us to pick from—2/3 is better than 2/5 for sure.

I don't think a single person overtly manipulated Blue. Honestly, scum rarely do overtly manipulate townies. I think townies are usually manipulated by a scum-led gamestate, rather than by a specific member of the scumteam.

[the worst]

Plus you forget all the work I put in when I came into the game when nothing socially was ever happening.
D1 ended prematurely and then the game decided to focus on a mass-claim. So I had to sift through RVS and then D2 mech-plays.

Don't act like I should have been able to be on my top scum-reading game with so little to go off.

Your prior posts are trying to negotiate with me. I'm not sure why you're trying to persuade me, you're pretty much confirmed scum fmpov? Also I don't think I've been misrepresentative at all - I've laid out what the game looks like from my perspective and you're basically throwing your hands up and going "nuh uh".

As for this -- not much was happening, but your pred was being wagoned. There was no mounting counter-wagon at the time. I think it's pretty obvious that you had to do something, and you do have a high-effort scumgame, it absolutely lines up that you would replace into that gamestate and realise that you had to take the game by the horns.

That doesn't take S tier scumplay. I think it completely aligns with your playstyle, and I think it's exactly the position you would have found yourself in.

I'm not even interested in arguing back at you but like, ironically I think you're representing *my* post.

[the worst]

let's leave heip until the postgame. the mod made that request for a reason.

[AnimatedWiz]

This is truly a frustrating choice for voting, because it feels like all my choices have been a bit scummy.

Jackson’s been posting so much that it feels like they’re actively attempting to bury other arguments, worst’s predecessor generated little but scumreads for the whole game, and ZZZX has voted a lot but said little about it. Even Nurse has played his cards so close to his chest that I can’t even read him too well, though I do feel like I can trust him still.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't see how I'm burying other peoples arguments, I've been trying to actively get peoples thoughts this entire game even if it goes against my reads. even if it's against me directly as with passenger, I asked them to explain to me their thoughts on me. I feel that's a little unfair to say to me

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm just very vocal

[AnimatedWiz]

I mean, I still read you as town more than the other two, and I’m definitely not saying my feelings are facts, but at this point I have to be suspicious and think critically about everyone—I don’t want to eliminate the wrong person for a third time.

[JacksonVirgo]

That being said, can you spill your thoughts to me? What are you thinking?

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