Mini Normal 2311 | FIN

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Votecount 3-XI (UNCHANGED)

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to hammer.

Votes

JacksonVirgo (1 = E-2):

the worst (538)

the worst (1 = E-2):

Random Nurse (664)

Not Voting (3):

ZZZX, AnimatedWiz (747), JacksonVirgo (781)

Notes

• The Deadline is due in (expired on 2023-09-24 23:16:26)
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here.
  
• JacksonVirgo is V/LA for the next three days.

[ZZZX]

If you're one to genuinely believe the possibility that that absolute clusterfuck is more likely than ZZZ being mailman, it's proven to me that you cannot reliably solve this game and therefore I'm probably not going to try to play going into tomorrow. A simple occam's razor destroys your entire thing and yet you pretty much stand by it. It actually baffles me how much you're confirmation-biased.

I think being the one who is forcing the entire discussion of the mailman, which if I was the mailman has ZERO benefits for me, alone proves my point. We already know the mailman is scum, due to their lack of claims, but we also have no real info, hence what I eventually said, mailman should be considered a non-factor eventually with the information we had, because there is one of three cases only:

1- I was a one-shot scum mailman (???) and I wasted it on RN
2- Both me and RN are scum and we are cooking something (already proven it can't be me and RN)
3- Today I used the mailman on the NK target since none else claimed getting mail, yet I didnt do anything else with the mail

Yea it just makes no sense what so ever

[ZZZX]

ZZZX and JV are the two claimed Neighbors, and they both cannot be Scum or they would have hammered by now.

Therefore, the Neighborhood MUST exist because why would a Town Neighbor lie?

So Worst and JV slots claimed Neighbors.

IF Worst flips as Scum but NOT a Neighbor, THEN that would mean JV lied about being a Neighbor.

SO, we need to know whether or not Worst is a Neighbor. That fact could break this game wide open.

I think the chance of them both not being neighbors is close to nil, thats a very dumb claim since one getting elim'd means insta losing, idk

[JacksonVirgo]

If you're one to genuinely believe the possibility that that absolute clusterfuck is more likely than ZZZ being mailman, it's proven to me that you cannot reliably solve this game and therefore I'm probably not going to try to play going into tomorrow. A simple occam's razor destroys your entire thing and yet you pretty much stand by it. It actually baffles me how much you're confirmation-biased.

I think being the one who is forcing the entire discussion of the mailman, which if I was the mailman has ZERO benefits for me, alone proves my point. We already know the mailman is scum, due to their lack of claims, but we also have no real info, hence what I eventually said, mailman should be considered a non-factor eventually with the information we had, because there is one of three cases only:

1- I was a one-shot scum mailman (???) and I wasted it on RN
2- Both me and RN are scum and we are cooking something (already proven it can't be me and RN)
3- Today I used the mailman on the NK target since none else claimed getting mail, yet I didnt do anything else with the mail

Yea it just makes no sense what so ever

Those aren't the only options. You seem to be really discrediting the first option so let me pull that one apart. What stops it from being a combined role. Combined X-Mailman.

[JacksonVirgo]

I think the chance of them both not being neighbors is close to nil, thats a very dumb claim since one getting elim'd means insta losing, idk

Lmao, it coming from you is hilarious but thank you. It's really dumb

[ZZZX]

1) We eliminate Worst today and discern if he is a Neighbor or not.

2) If he's not a Neighbor it means you're dead.

3) If he is a Neighbor then it's now a toss between you or ZZZX.

4) If Wiz is alive in endgame he should be the one to vote last, because he's confTown.

5) If Wiz is in endgame it's up to him to thoroughly analyze both of you two to come to the best conclusion, BUT ALSO remember that in endgame the player you suspect the least is most likely to be Scum.

6) If

*I*

am the one left alive in endgame, having to sort you two... well, may God have mercy on your souls.

Well, #6 is the likely outcome, and it will definitely feel like a wild west shootout, Even now, I have my doubts and questions, what IF RN bussing Worst, what if? But to be fair a lot of that is probably paranoia, so lets see

[ZZZX]

If you're one to genuinely believe the possibility that that absolute clusterfuck is more likely than ZZZ being mailman, it's proven to me that you cannot reliably solve this game and therefore I'm probably not going to try to play going into tomorrow. A simple occam's razor destroys your entire thing and yet you pretty much stand by it. It actually baffles me how much you're confirmation-biased.

I think being the one who is forcing the entire discussion of the mailman, which if I was the mailman has ZERO benefits for me, alone proves my point. We already know the mailman is scum, due to their lack of claims, but we also have no real info, hence what I eventually said, mailman should be considered a non-factor eventually with the information we had, because there is one of three cases only:

1- I was a one-shot scum mailman (???) and I wasted it on RN
2- Both me and RN are scum and we are cooking something (already proven it can't be me and RN)
3- Today I used the mailman on the NK target since none else claimed getting mail, yet I didnt do anything else with the mail

Yea it just makes no sense what so ever

Those aren't the only options. You seem to be really discrediting the first option so let me pull that one apart. What stops it from being a combined role. Combined X-Mailman.

If I had a one-shot mailman, instead of using it in any way to pocket another person, to sow paranoia, I...

told RN to say "Got it?" ?

[ZZZX]

I am almost insulted you think of me that boring

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't know the reason you'd have done it. I'm not you

[JacksonVirgo]

Could be a multitude of things
Non-consequtive, Complex (and you hit a VT), 1-shot, Combined. I don't know dude I'm not God

[ZZZX]

Well, I am happy enough with the discussion to personally go for the lim, anyone else got anything to add? I won't vote yet so none quick hammers before wiz/RN adds their thoughts

[ZZZX]

I think the chance of them both not being neighbors is close to nil, thats a very dumb claim since one getting elim'd means insta losing, idk

Lmao, it coming from you is hilarious but thank you. It's really dumb

I have been very clear about my thoughts this entire game, and I am not afraid to express my opinions, even when it seems like ti benefits me more not to. Town has less reason to bullshit ;P

[JacksonVirgo]

And of course you use that to push a LAMIST argument

[ZZZX]

Do me a favor, what was a LAMIST arguement?

[JacksonVirgo]

"Look at me, I'm so townie"

[ZZZX]

"Look at me, I'm so townie"

Ah, I see.

Well my mafia vocab is still not on point after my long haitus, thanks

[AnimatedWiz]

My nap is over and I feel much clearer-headed—yay!

Okay, so, I’m still thinking the most logical course of action here is to eliminate the worst, since it helps give us more information and works with both major theories of who could scum.

If the worst isn’t a Neighbor, then Jackson lied about being a Neighbor as well, which is confirmation that they’re also scum. This is an easy elimination here, but I’m unsure if this is going to be what we discover—would neatly tie everything up, though.

If the worst really is a Neighbor, then my theory about Jackson being a scumteam with them falls apart, and it’s more likely to be ZZZX then—after all, I feel like Blue and ZZZX were working together earlier on. Obviously, we don’t have anything super certain in this case, but we can probably have Jackson and ZZZX make defenses and dissect them before the hammering vote D4.

If Nurse gets nightkilled instead of me, I’m not going immediately tunnel anyone D4 if the worst flips as a Neighbor. I’m not stupid, and I really dislike being called that—I know that my theory makes sense with the evidence presented to us so far, but I never claimed it was the only possibility that works.

I would love to work with you all to get a clutch town win D4, but please don’t sling mud at me if you want me to trust you—not cool.

Let’s find out if my theory carries water.

VOTE: the worst

[ZZZX]

Sure,

lets end this day, and see how things go.

VOTE: the worst

[biancospino]

Votecount 3-FINAL

With 5 alive, it took 3 to hammer.

Votes

the worst (3 =

EXECUTED

):

Random Nurse (664), AnimatedWiz (841), ZZZX (842)

JacksonVirgo (1):

the worst (538)

Not Voting (1):

JacksonVirgo (781)

Notes

• The Deadline is due in (expired on 2023-09-24 23:16:26)
  
• You can find the combined mod ISO here.
  
• JacksonVirgo is V/LA for the next three days.

[biancospino]

the worst was executed!

He was a

Werewolf Neighbor Informed complex Follower

.

Spoiler: role PM

Welcome to Mini Normal 2311, the worst!

You are a

Werewolf Neighbor Informed complex Follower

. You know that the Wolves' faction is composed of [REDACTED].

You have the following factional abilities:

• Wolf chat
  — you can talk with the other members of the Wolves' faction at any time [here].
  
• Wolf kill
  — each night, if no other member of the Wolves' faction use this ability, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, your target will die.

You have the following nonfactional active abilities:

• complex Follower
  — each night, you may target a living player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will discover what kind of actions your target performed this night. This action will fail as if roleblocked if it targets a Vanilla player.

You have the following nonfactional passive abilities:

• Neighbor
  — you are in a Neighborhood with [REDACTED]. You can talk with them at any time [here].
  
• Informed
  — you know that [REDACTED].

You win when at least one member of the Wolves' faction is alive and all members of the Village faction are dead, or when nothing can prevent the same.

The Game Thread is located here.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role, or by posting the same in the Wolves' PT.

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Night 3 starts, and ends in (expired on 2023-09-21 17:23:10).

Send me and Alianna your actions by PM.
Fast Night is available if everyone asks for it.

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