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[Flavor Leaf]

this makes my odds for being red mafia slightly lower, no?

It could, but Drew also semi crumbed they would be roleblocking one of me or Psyche.

However, I think Drew dying already made your odds of being red mafia slightly lower.

Also. If Drew crumbed he was going to block Psyche, it's not like he's a jail keeper, he should still receive the fruit.

why do you keep posting these quoting me? i was very much on board with Psyche Scum, and still am. There's like some scenarios where he's town, and I get why annoyingly they can be left alive if we really wanted to, but if ya think i wouldnt be on the wagon, you just silly.

[Flavor Leaf]

The solution here is easy enough.

1: kill psyche
2: ignore psyche and when/if JV flips we can deal with him
3: let the rest of the players check in before moving forward

can do multiple of these two.

From where I'm sitting, it looks like we got 2 scum in Hu Tao and Psyche

[Flavor Leaf]

I kind of think Psyche should shoot Hu Tao if we elim neither of them lol

I think JV should shoot Psyche/Hu Tao, and we fade the other.

[Psyche]

It feels a little crazy to be pressing this, but "psyche and JL very probably aren't both town" would be quite a helpful find. Dangerous conclusion to draw without confidence though.

The lack of a vote in the "guilty" post still pings me as off but it's admittedly small gap.

JL's claim would be quite an impressive gambit as scum.
It's technically in the realm of possibility, particularly since "there was a roleblocker last night" is public info but their target isn't, and scum have daytalk right now.
But once you factor in the quality of their D1 play, on balance that all seems moot.
I feel forced to lean town here.

I think I'd be voting me right now if I weren't me. But I guess it depends on the verifiability of my claim.

[davesaz]

Assuming I'm not just wrong about goons looking "vanilla" to a complex role, I'm trying to figure out how a complex vig even makes sense. The only way it has utility is if scum has a PR, and the vig hits it. Even finding out someone is vanilla is only useful in a place where nobody ever fakeclaims as town. In a world with town fakeclaims, being complex isn't even a reliable lie detector.

[Flavor Leaf]

so psyche never got the fruit?

psyche can still prove themselves though hmmmm

yeah, only way Psyche is town is if JV got blocked, or if Psyche got Alien'd or Rolestopped.

Hu Tao is obv scum at this point too with the way they pushed Psyche. Like yeah, Psyche obv scum here, but so is Hu Tao.

They're probably on the same team too which is the funny part.

[Psyche]

I'm okay dying but I don't wanna die for nothing. :(

[TemporalLich]

I still think Hu Tao is the better wagon today

Loyal Fruit Vendor is both easy to confound and reliant on the target to instantly claim fruit. Also, Complex Vigilante is not a plausible fakeclaim and eliminating Hu Tao kind of confirms Psyche's claim anyway.

[Flavor Leaf]

It feels a little crazy to be pressing this, but "psyche and JL very probably aren't both town" would be quite a helpful find. Dangerous conclusion to draw without confidence though.

The lack of a vote in the "guilty" post still pings me as off but it's admittedly small gap.

JL's claim would be quite an impressive gambit as scum.
It's technically in the realm of possibility, particularly since "there was a roleblocker last night" is public info but their target isn't, and scum have daytalk right now.
But once you factor in the quality of their D1 play, on balance that all seems moot.
I feel forced to lean town here.

I think I'd be voting me right now if I weren't me. But I guess it depends on the verifiability of my claim.

You flip town, then im leaning both of you town over JV scum here. JV, as scum, outs themselves as JV which opens them up to an easy crosskill here to just misfade you? Yeah, i just dont buy it.

Only reason I'm back on Hu Tao is because technically you can confirm yourself if you claim an unclaimed 3rd kill, but you really never end game here, i think.

[Psyche]

lotta fakeclaims in bbm's iso that i don't think we were intended to take as fakeclaims

here's me breadcrumbing the complex part of my role btw. so sad no one wanted to play the minigame

[Flavor Leaf]

I still think Hu Tao is the better wagon today

Loyal Fruit Vendor is both easy to confound and reliant on the target to instantly claim fruit. Also, Complex Vigilante is not a plausible fakeclaim and eliminating Hu Tao kind of confirms Psyche's claim anyway.

Complex Vig is an easy ass fake claim, whatre you on

I think they're both scum and partners lol

[Psyche]

but yeahh i know his claims weren't credible. that's why i aimed at him. fkin catch-22

[Flavor Leaf]

lotta fakeclaims in bbm's iso that i don't think we were intended to take as fakeclaims

here's me breadcrumbing the complex part of my role btw. so sad no one wanted to play the minigame

eh day 2 you could have role copped them and said that

[Psyche]

cmon flavor you're so good at this game. can't you look in my eyes/iso and see the truth for what it is
sry. i know that's not fair.

[Psyche]

lotta fakeclaims in bbm's iso that i don't think we were intended to take as fakeclaims

here's me breadcrumbing the complex part of my role btw. so sad no one wanted to play the minigame

eh day 2 you could have role copped them and said that

Oh, is that why you guys say "role cop" instead of me just pulling the "BBM is vanilla" thing out of my ass as a way of fishing for another PR before I go

[Flavor Leaf]

like i said, if there is never a confirmed 3rd death that isn't without a doubt a vig shot by Psyche, they get eliminated eventually.

like, if there are 3 deaths, and one of them is 'Weak', no, that's not without a doubt, you fade Psyche still. It has to be no ifs ands or buts to have Psyche live through like Day 4 imo.

[Flavor Leaf]

cmon flavor you're so good at this game. can't you look in my eyes/iso and see the truth for what it is
sry. i know that's not fair.

Im also willing to fade you to find out, though.

Ask Snivy how willing I am to do that to get to the wincon

[TemporalLich]

I still think Hu Tao is the better wagon today

Loyal Fruit Vendor is both easy to confound and reliant on the target to instantly claim fruit. Also, Complex Vigilante is not a plausible fakeclaim and eliminating Hu Tao kind of confirms Psyche's claim anyway.

Complex Vig is an easy ass fake claim, whatre you on

I think they're both scum and partners lol

Even if you're actually a scum role cop and somehow manage to investigate a power role on Night 1, you would be better off actually trueclaiming role cop in that scenario.

Complex Vigilante results in unstable kills per night, as it is a vigilante that is not guaranteed.

[Flavor Leaf]

I still think Hu Tao is the better wagon today

Loyal Fruit Vendor is both easy to confound and reliant on the target to instantly claim fruit. Also, Complex Vigilante is not a plausible fakeclaim and eliminating Hu Tao kind of confirms Psyche's claim anyway.

Complex Vig is an easy ass fake claim, whatre you on

I think they're both scum and partners lol

Even if you're actually a scum role cop and somehow manage to investigate a power role on Night 1, you would be better off actually trueclaiming role cop in that scenario.

Complex Vigilante results in unstable kills per night, as it is a vigilante that is not guaranteed.

Psyche had posts that looked like crumb.

I've just seen too many scum Vigilante claims to ever trust it really.

You're clearing the Loyal Fruit Vend on them for some reason based on your tone reading of Psyche's Fake Claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

possible*

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I am not opposed to them being town, but it is not Occam's Razor.

[Psyche]

tone reading is OP if you're good at it

[BBmolla]

Dave is scum btw

[Naerys]

Assuming I'm not just wrong about goons looking "vanilla" to a complex role, I'm trying to figure out how a complex vig even makes sense. The only way it has utility is if scum has a PR, and the vig hits it. Even finding out someone is vanilla is only useful in a place where nobody ever fakeclaims as town. In a world with town fakeclaims, being complex isn't even a reliable lie detector.

Complex shouldnt work on goons

[BBmolla]

We're still elimming Hu Tao I'm just noting it in case I die