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[Random Nurse]

if nobody was roleblocked and you are scum who was successfully targeted by loyal fruit vendor, you’d be telling the truth in saying you didn’t get one, no?

oh, yes. but the more relevant question is whether i'm telling the truth when i say i'm not scum.

Don't worry when we kill you Today we'll know what's what.

VOTE: psyche

[Psyche]

BUT i can confirm my role. i can confirm that i am a vig. and maybe soft confirm that the shot doesn't work on vanillas.

[Random Nurse]

BUT i can confirm my role. i can confirm that i am a vig. and maybe soft confirm that the shot doesn't work on vanillas.

Oh?

Who did you shoot again?

In general it's common for Scum to fake-claim Vig.

[Psyche]

I don't really like rehashing prior discussion. But I'll do it for batman.

Here's the post where i claimed the target of my shot:

oh i can say who i aimed at, too, sure. it was BBM. reasons:
1) scumread the guy
2) figured it would be lame to not commit to it with my shot
3) decided that even if the flip proved town, i'd get to not fixate on the scumread through D2
4) can you imagine how delicious it would be if I was proven right? I even planned what I'd say. A reference to flavorleaf's posts about my "2012 meta".
5) even if i turned out to be wrong, i could make a really shadey post down the line referencing justifications for limming people just to move the game along, shrink the playerlist to make scumhunting possible, take out antitown slots for the health of the meta, etc. of course it would have all been cope.
6) a sixth reason

BBM has claimed he's vanilla. So that's a potential reason my shot failed. But it's also possible I was blocked or something.

Can't really weigh in on your other comment. Is news to me. If you see 3 people die tomorrow and I say I did one of them, will you think I'm town?

[Psyche]

i'm going to try to pull back for a day this was too much

[Random Nurse]

I don't really like rehashing prior discussion. But I'll do it for batman.

Here's the post where i claimed the target of my shot:

oh i can say who i aimed at, too, sure. it was BBM. reasons:
1) scumread the guy
2) figured it would be lame to not commit to it with my shot
3) decided that even if the flip proved town, i'd get to not fixate on the scumread through D2
4) can you imagine how delicious it would be if I was proven right? I even planned what I'd say. A reference to flavorleaf's posts about my "2012 meta".
5) even if i turned out to be wrong, i could make a really shadey post down the line referencing justifications for limming people just to move the game along, shrink the playerlist to make scumhunting possible, take out antitown slots for the health of the meta, etc. of course it would have all been cope.
6) a sixth reason

BBM has claimed he's vanilla. So that's a potential reason my shot failed. But it's also possible I was blocked or something.

Can't really weigh in on your other comment. Is news to me. If you see 3 people die tomorrow and I say I did one of them, will you think I'm town?

i'm going to try to pull back for a day this was too much

So you claimed Complex Vig. Is that it or are you able/willing to share any details?

If you're telling the truth and your action went through then logic dictates that BBM is Vanilla, but he could still be a Goon.

Did BBM claim Vanilla?

This is nothing so there's no need for you to pull back, unless there's

another

reason you're pulling back.

[Random Nurse]

OK so BBM claimed Vanilla.

[Random Nurse]

Position	Players
Town-read	-
Town-lean	-
Null-town	-
Null	Psyche1
Null-scum	Flavor Leaf2
Scum-lean	-
Scum-read	-

¹ I'm not sure what to make of this slot. JV targeting psyche with a Loyal Fruit and Psyche saying he didn't get shit tells me there needs to be solving between these two, because to me it reads that these two aren't on the same side, barring exceptions like some random 3rd party PR interference. I DO find it interesting that psych claims Complex Vig and targeted BBM and nothing happens. To me this doesn't solve for alignment, but it does make the walls close in upon Scum just a little bit more. Psych does appear to be engaging with me, and that does help alleviate my monstrous appetite for answers here, but I don't like the idea of psyche jumping back for a day because it's "too much."

JV claims to have a guilty on Psyche, about a Loyal Fruit being given. Psyche refuses to clarify despite me asking MULTIPLE times for clarification. Psyche now says that he didn't receive any fruit, so someone's lying.

² *Glares at FL*

Has called me Scum multiple times but when I confront him to explain himself he cowers back, multiple times.

Answer me.

[Random Nurse]

Position	Players
Town-read	-
Town-lean	-
Null-town	-
Null	Psyche1
Null-scum	Flavor Leaf2
Scum-lean	-
Scum-read	-

¹ I'm not sure what to make of this slot. JV targeting psyche with a Loyal Fruit and Psyche saying he didn't get shit tells me there needs to be solving between these two, because to me it reads that these two aren't on the same side, barring exceptions like some random 3rd party PR interference. I DO find it interesting that psych claims Complex Vig and targeted BBM and nothing happens. To me this doesn't solve for alignment, but it does make the walls close in upon Scum just a little bit more. Psych does appear to be engaging with me, and that does help alleviate my monstrous appetite for answers here, but I don't like the idea of psyche jumping back for a day because it's "too much."

JV claims to have a guilty on Psyche, about a Loyal Fruit being given. Psyche refuses to clarify despite me asking MULTIPLE times for clarification. Psyche now says that he didn't receive any fruit, so someone's lying.

² *Glares at FL*

Has called me Scum multiple times but when I confront him to explain himself he cowers back, multiple times.

Answer me.

[Flavor Leaf]

it's more fun to just call you scum but not focus on you today

[Flavor Leaf]

Position	Players
Town-read	-
Town-lean	-
Null-town	-
Null	-
Null-scum	Flavor Leaf2
Scum-lean	Psyche1
Scum-read	-

¹ JV claims to have a guilty on Psyche, about a Loyal Fruit being given. Psyche refuses to clarify despite me asking MULTIPLE times for clarification. Psyche now says that he didn't receive any fruit, so someone's lying.

² Has called me Scum multiple times but when I confront him to explain himself he cowers back, multiple times.

Answer me.

why cant JV be telling the truth about targeting psyche with loyal fruit and psyche telling the truth about not getting one

Sure, it's possible, but unlikely.

it's more likely than JV fake claiming

[Random Nurse]

Position	Players
Town-read	-
Town-lean	-
Null-town	-
Null	Psyche1
Null-scum	Flavor Leaf2
Scum-lean	-
Scum-read	-

¹ I'm not sure what to make of this slot. JV targeting psyche with a Loyal Fruit and Psyche saying he didn't get shit tells me there needs to be solving between these two, because to me it reads that these two aren't on the same side, barring exceptions like some random 3rd party PR interference. I DO find it interesting that psych claims Complex Vig and targeted BBM and nothing happens. To me this doesn't solve for alignment, but it does make the walls close in upon Scum just a little bit more. Psych does appear to be engaging with me, and that does help alleviate my monstrous appetite for answers here, but I don't like the idea of psyche jumping back for a day because it's "too much."


² *Glares at FL*

Spoiler: Previous Reads

Psyche:

JV claims to have a guilty on Psyche, about a Loyal Fruit being given. Psyche refuses to clarify despite me asking MULTIPLE times for clarification. Psyche now says that he didn't receive any fruit, so someone's lying.

Flavor Leaf:

Has called me Scum multiple times but when I confront him to explain himself he cowers back, multiple times.

Answer me.

ID	Username	Status	Claim	Flip
01	Random Nurse	Alive	Town Informed Bulletproof	—
02	Flavor Leaf	Alive	—	—
03	pisskop biancospino	Alive	—	—
04	Hu Tao	Alive	—	—
05	camelCasedSnivy	Alive	—	—
06	Doctor Drew KittyTacky	Dead [Night 1]	—	Roleblocker
07	Save The Dragons	Alive	—	—
08	Aisa Merlyn	Alive	—	—
09	davesaz	Alive	—	—
10	Cat Scratch Fever Flavia	Alive	—	—
11	Naerys	Alive	—	—
12	Klazam	Dead [Night 1]	—	Goon
13	Psyche	Alive	Complex Vigilante?	—
14	bob3141	Alive	—	—
15	iamveryhappy	Dead [Day 1]	—	VT
16	TemporalLich	Alive	—	—
17	furtiveglance	Alive	—	—
18	ZZZX	Alive	—	—
19	the worst	Alive	—	—
20	bbmolla	Alive	Vanilla per Complex Vig?	—
21	Shrek	Alive	—	—
22	JacksonVirgo	Alive	Can give Loyal Fruit?	—
23	shaddowez	Alive	—	—

[the worst]

I don't really like rehashing prior discussion. But I'll do it for batman.

Now my brain has started doing it too automatically thanks I hate it

[the worst]

I'm a JOAT*
I did not use a Gunsmith charge on you (keeping it vague with what I have left) but what I did use was a Loyal FV and he didn't claim he got one. Ironically enough, I have a Vigilante charge too so that's a hilarious coincidence if you're both a Vigilante and my check on you failed for external reasons.

I figured keeping that part (the FV) hidden and then calling out the guilty would prompt him to claim that he did in fact get targeted by one if he was hiding it but nah decided to go for my throat instead.
Obviously not gonna claim my other action/s nor how good they are or aren't.

here u go RN

[Random Nurse]

I'm a JOAT*
I did not use a Gunsmith charge on you (keeping it vague with what I have left) but what I did use was a Loyal FV and he didn't claim he got one. Ironically enough, I have a Vigilante charge too so that's a hilarious coincidence if you're both a Vigilante and my check on you failed for external reasons.

I figured keeping that part (the FV) hidden and then calling out the guilty would prompt him to claim that he did in fact get targeted by one if he was hiding it but nah decided to go for my throat instead.
Obviously not gonna claim my other action/s nor how good they are or aren't.

here u go RN

OK, so we need to flip one of them, and then IF Psyche flips Town we yeet JV.

[BBmolla]

yeah thats not how this works

[BBmolla]

RN's posts are silly and I'm gonna ignore them

[Random Nurse]

*waves at brutish caveman*

[Psyche]

it's kind of embarassing to put it out there, particularly given how little i concretely accomplished, but i kinda gave this game an unreasonable amount of time yesterday to the extent that it messed with irl things. i just gotta pace myself is all.

[the worst]

it's kind of embarassing to put it out there, particularly given how little i concretely accomplished, but i kinda gave this game an unreasonable amount of time yesterday to the extent that it messed with irl things. i just gotta pace myself is all.

I doubt this helps but I like talking so. With games this big I very much feel that the value of the benefit I get for putting in big effort is way too low to warrant the effort.

[the worst]

That value definitely increases as more (loud!!) people die

[JacksonVirgo]

so like again

if the simplest possible explanation

now

is that i didnt get fruit because i'm scum, what is the simplest possible explanation when i flip and i don't? bc that's what's gonna happen. seems like you're willing to give JV a pass even then.

That proves that you were Alien'd or JV blocked, and gives us a lot of setup info.

Or similar mech, I don't believe it's limited to just that but yeah that's the gist. If all goes well and there's 3 kills it should confirm me as non-maf too but that's not super duper reliable and for future-jv to worry about

[JacksonVirgo]

i'd be surprised if there *wasn't* a source of third kills in a game of this size and a vig just fits the bill really cleanly. i don't really know what the significance of a complex vig is but it's probably there for a reason. it becomes more valuable in a lategame where scum are hiding amongst pr claims.

I am also a Vig

[JacksonVirgo]

outsourcing - what are the odds of drew having blocked JV

Low imo. I considered cuz how town-read I was, and I definitely slipped at having a vig cuz of my adamance on "who tf claimed vig" type of thing or whatever it was so I fear it was that that hinted I was PR but apart from that I got no idea what's happened, I did ask everyone if I appeared to be a PR to get a better idea of this but nobody responded so T-T

[JacksonVirgo]

outsourcing - what are the odds of drew having blocked JV

I think Drew was also townreading JV per 1411 and never talked about them after. Unlikely to have roleblocked them imo

TRing and not SRing someone are very different but ig your point lmao