Open 886 | Trust Fall | Postgame

patchwork · Post Post #51 (isolation #0) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:36 am

HELLLOO im alive!! this playlist is so stacked hello everyone

patchwork · Post Post #55 (isolation #1) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:39 am

In post 27, Skygazer wrote: i think scum is in the lurkers (patchwork and merlyn)

i was at school

patchwork · Post Post #56 (isolation #2) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:39 am

OMG MERLYN IS HERE HII

patchwork · Post Post #58 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:41 am

In post 54, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Hello to you too patchwork.
I like your pfp.

thank u nuclear gandhi

patchwork · Post Post #59 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:41 am

In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!

homie... that is called a meta read

patchwork · Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:44 am

In post 61, Merlyn wrote:
In post 56, patchwork wrote: OMG MERLYN IS HERE HII
YAYYYY!!!!! Yes your avi is excellent, Hydreigon is one of my fav evolutions

I LOVE THE HYDREIGON LINE u are so true for that <33

patchwork · Post Post #63 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:45 am

In post 60, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: sry I don't follow

it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.

patchwork · Post Post #70 (isolation #7) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:58 am

In post 64, Merlyn wrote:
In post 63, patchwork wrote:
In post 60, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: sry I don't follow
it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.
I think I'd better come clean and admit I was just jokin around, I wanted to WIFOM spiral Drew said we had to avoid WIFOM spiraling...

OHHH okay

patchwork · Post Post #72 (isolation #8) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:59 am

In post 65, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 63, patchwork wrote:
In post 60, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: sry I don't follow
it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.
Familiar players can also play each other though.

It's impossible for us to know anyone's intentions; anything can be read from both angles - mafia and town alike.
What makes you certain that her intentions were towny? I guess you already townread her?

never said she was already towny! i was just saying there was no way to be for sure that it was pocketing and that they had played together before so it was likely that it was just a meta read!

patchwork · Post Post #76 (isolation #9) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:03 am

wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what

patchwork · Post Post #100 (isolation #10) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:54 am

In post 77, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 76, patchwork wrote: wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what
Well, I was pointing out how your confidence in her intentions being towny was unordinary and felt a little like TMI.
Don't worry, pointing out one towny think there one wolfy thing here doesn't mean I'm calling people wolves and towns. Yet.

i literally never said it was towny i just said it wasn't pocketing

in fact i think it's weird that YOU jumped to accuse her of pocketing

patchwork · Post Post #101 (isolation #11) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:55 am

In post 59, patchwork wrote:
In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!
homie... that is called a meta read

yeah uh i don't see it

patchwork · Post Post #102 (isolation #12) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:55 am

In post 79, Skygazer wrote: wanted to note real quick that in theory we could use the trustfalls as personalized hammer tests (from the proposers POV). and then we can chain trustfalls if we reveal townies and know their proposees must be town

thats probably not the best idea but eh

hi, sky! i think we probably could but i'm more fond of klick's idea of systematically townhunting

patchwork · Post Post #109 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:06 am

In post 104, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 100, patchwork wrote:
In post 77, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 76, patchwork wrote: wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what
Well, I was pointing out how your confidence in her intentions being towny was unordinary and felt a little like TMI.
Don't worry, pointing out one towny think there one wolfy thing here doesn't mean I'm calling people wolves and towns. Yet.
i literally never said it was towny i just said it wasn't pocketing in fact i think it's weird that YOU jumped to accuse her of pocketing
That post of mine, the one addressed to Drew, was mostly joking; with a hint of hope to get a weird reaction from someone.
In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!

Which I guess it succeeded in? Don't fret. As I said, all it was was me seeing a strange looking post and pointing out what I find strange about it. I'm not calling you Mafia.

OH I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MERLYN JOKING im such a dumbass

patchwork · Post Post #113 (isolation #14) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:17 am

In post 111, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 101, patchwork wrote:
In post 59, patchwork wrote:
In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!
homie... that is called a meta read
yeah uh i don't see it
You're quoting wrong post fwiw.
I didn't see nor understand that post either, which is why I said "sry I don't follow".
The post I was refering to was #63

Seriously though, I feel like you're making a too big deal out of a "this feels wrong" comment by me.

well, that's precisely the objective here. good job you passed my reaction test, would you like to continue this line of questioning anyways?

patchwork · Post Post #114 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:20 am

tbh i think towniest people so far are klick: kind of generally pro-town, promoting discussion, setup-related talk. that aside, they're just vibing well with me. nuclear gandhi sounds cool too, i think they're actively contributing and sparking discussion. thankfully i can rule them as hesitantly towny now even though i was skeptical of their past posts (particularly the ones where they were like "haha guys im not scum!!! trust me"). i like skys vibes, it reminds me of how they were like when we played together last

patchwork · Post Post #116 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:21 am

wait i found 63 how did u fidn that scummy

you said you didn't follow meaning you didn't understand so i elaborated what a meta read meant

patchwork · Post Post #127 (isolation #17) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:12 pm

it probably is in her scumrange
i played a scumgame w her months ago and she was kinda like this

patchwork · Post Post #198 (isolation #18) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:05 am

In post 139, Malakittens wrote: why does ghandi feel ok

i feel oppsosite

i think he reacted decently to me and while im not too sure on this i', willing to sort him as town

patchwork · Post Post #199 (isolation #19) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:06 am

In post 144, Skygazer wrote:
In post 127, patchwork wrote: it probably is in her scumrange
i played a scumgame w her months ago and she was kinda like this
i remember this; i think mala is pretty slippery as scum but time will tell? nothing has jumped out as scummy about her to me yet tho

YEAA it was in the vig game! 2300 i think?

patchwork · Post Post #201 (isolation #20) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:06 am

In post 148, Skygazer wrote: i think that's the same reason i lost to them in my first game with them so i'll likely reevaluate though lol

the nostalgia LOL

patchwork · Post Post #203 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:06 am

In post 200, Malakittens wrote:
In post 126, Merlyn wrote: but I've read a few of her games and I feel like she has that kind of carefree sound as scum too. Like, she made me laugh but I do think this is in her scumrange.

YOUS TOLE MY PAGETOP

patchwork · Post Post #207 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:08 am

In post 154, Skygazer wrote: black: i trust your ability to read them more than my own tbh

probably, black has played more games with me out of everyone here. though i do recall black "learning how to read me" in our last handful of games and scumreading me every time regardless of my actual alignment xD this is my second game after my break so tbh i hope im still readable to you guys

patchwork · Post Post #208 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:09 am

In post 156, Black wrote:
In post 154, Skygazer wrote: black: i trust your ability to read them more than my own tbh
Well they are in their town range too so we'll have to see lol

what even is my townrange

patchwork · Post Post #212 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:22 am

In post 162, Black wrote: What can be taken away from this mala proposal? I think it suggests that either I'm town or we are scum together. Mala could be town or scum regardless of my alignment. I think scum is more likely to try and toss out a trust fall to something they think might accept, but it is mala we're talking about here so personality has to be considered

tbh i think its advantageous for scum to wait back

patchwork · Post Post #214 (isolation #25) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:24 am

In post 169, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 152, Black wrote:
I think patch is definitely in their scum range so far
Just to clarify: do you mean only scum range or both scum and town range both?

black literally said that i was in both town and scumrange

patchwork · Post Post #215 (isolation #26) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:26 am

In post 189, Malakittens wrote:
In post 188, Merlyn wrote: you know what YOLOOOOO

I trust Black

GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY GURL

NONONONOOO

I trust Black

patchwork · Post Post #216 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:28 am

In post 205, Malakittens wrote:
In post 204, Malakittens wrote:
In post 133, Klick wrote: {Alianna, Malakittens, Random Nurse}

Probably 1 scum bottom, 1 scum middle.

In post 202, Malakittens wrote:
In post 127, patchwork wrote: it probably is in her scumrange
i played a scumgame w her months ago and she was kinda like this

In post 200, Malakittens wrote:
In post 126, Merlyn wrote: but I've read a few of her games and I feel like she has that kind of carefree sound as scum too. Like, she made me laugh but I do think this is in her scumrange.

For Klickin' Chicken

mala im sorry but none of those r scumreads

patchwork · Post Post #221 (isolation #28) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:31 am

In post 217, Malakittens wrote: Yeah, but the posts are indicative that people are in the range for the fence of doing a scum read bc i'm "in scumrange"

fair but i didn't interpret them as such

patchwork · Post Post #223 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:33 am

In post 222, Black wrote: I had you pinned down in the last game we played. I'm not confident I'll be able to do it again though

oh, in the one with merlyn? newbie? yeah, you did
that game was a fuckign dumpster fire i hate it

patchwork · Post Post #263 (isolation #30) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:51 pm

In post 259, Malakittens wrote: Nope. I got eyes for black only until she's removed from the game~

this is actually a pretty good strategy, i think! trust only one person who your strongest townread is

patchwork · Post Post #269 (isolation #31) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:27 am

I trust Klick

really hopw I don't regret this

patchwork · Post Post #270 (isolation #32) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:27 am

how do u even scumhunt in this

patchwork · Post Post #272 (isolation #33) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:55 am

In post 271, Klick wrote:
In post 269, patchwork wrote:
I trust Klick
really hopw I don't regret this
Not hammering

Okay, glad I don't have to

patchwork · Post Post #275 (isolation #34) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:26 am

In post 273, Alianna wrote:
In post 270, patchwork wrote: how do u even scumhunt in this
That is my question too. We don't have a voting/execution mechanic to work with, all we have is the trusts.
I could assume that everyone who's been trusted (Black, Drew, Klick) is either town or scum with whoever trusted them, which actually might clear Drew due to a line of logic that my brain is not yet awake enough to verify or explain coherently (update on that later). I don't know if I like that assumption though.
Black is basically confirmed and Klick reads town to me anyway though.

this is kind of what i'm thinking! i think klick is probably town based on how they didn't just, yknow, get out with me. i'm not too sure on drew, though, i dont think he's posted once since klick trusted him

patchwork · Post Post #276 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:26 am

In post 274, Merlyn wrote: Okay, so what about the klick strat?

We all agree that Black is the towniest, why don't we ask her to choose two folks to trust fall. She can still be wrong but we know that she won't be actively working against us

what's the klick strat again

patchwork · Post Post #277 (isolation #36) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:26 am

tbh i think if there's one person i'm not willing to trust fall with it's mala. sorry mala

patchwork · Post Post #278 (isolation #37) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:27 am

actually that's a lie, there's apparently someone here called random nurse who has NEVER posted.

patchwork · Post Post #279 (isolation #38) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:28 am

nvm. theyve psoted before but they're on vla
but anyways do yall wanna post a list of who you wouldnt be willign to trustfall with

patchwork · Post Post #282 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:34 am

In post 281, Alianna wrote:
In post 275, patchwork wrote:
In post 273, Alianna wrote:
In post 270, patchwork wrote: how do u even scumhunt in this
That is my question too. We don't have a voting/execution mechanic to work with, all we have is the trusts.
I could assume that everyone who's been trusted (Black, Drew, Klick) is either town or scum with whoever trusted them, which actually might clear Drew due to a line of logic that my brain is not yet awake enough to verify or explain coherently (update on that later). I don't know if I like that assumption though.
Black is basically confirmed and Klick reads town to me anyway though.
this is kind of what i'm thinking! i think klick is probably town based on how they didn't just, yknow, get out with me. i'm not too sure on drew, though, i dont think he's posted once since klick trusted him
He posted an entire readslist after Klick trusted him lol.
But my "read" there is more of a mech-read than a read-read. I'll explain what I mean later.

wait he did? my bad i have really bad memory

patchwork · Post Post #283 (isolation #40) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:34 am

In post 280, Merlyn wrote: klick strat: viewtopic.php?t=90488

In post 0, Klick wrote: But with creative thinking, we can work around those steep odds. If the town can settle on one strong consensus townread, that person can decide upon an elimination target, and everyone can agree before the target is decided that they will sheep the consensus townread, regardless of their own reads on the situation. All of a sudden, instead of 5 out of 6 town players having to unite against a wolf while avoiding getting sidetracked by scum, just one player needs to get a good read. The odds are much better for town than playing out that vote normally.

what if our consensus townread is wrong?

patchwork · Post Post #284 (isolation #41) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:34 am

/our consensus townread's scumread

patchwork · Post Post #286 (isolation #42) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:37 am

if we do have to vote on a consesus townread/town leader, i vote black

patchwork · Post Post #287 (isolation #43) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:37 am

In post 285, Merlyn wrote:
In post 274, Merlyn wrote: She can still be wrong but we know that she won't be actively working against us

Oh

patchwork · Post Post #288 (isolation #44) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:38 am

okay, i read that post with the contect.t hanks! i think im actually down to that given im pretty confident in my black read

patchwork · Post Post #289 (isolation #45) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:38 am

like shes just confirmed at this point

patchwork · Post Post #303 (isolation #46) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:18 am

In post 293, Klick wrote: Here's what I think

I think Black/Drew/myself are just town. I think arguments to the contrary aren't that strong - there are 'what-if's there but they aren't super relevant.

I think Black, Drew and myself should solidify our reads and pick one person each outside of that group that we're confident exiting with. If we all do this successfully, we win.

If it turns out one of us is scum, we can reevaluate considering that if we have to cross that bridge. I don't think that's the world we're in though.

I'm fine with both this and standard Black Mayor, though I'm not sure why everyone seems to clear Drew. would someone be willing to explain to me

patchwork · Post Post #306 (isolation #47) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:26 am

In post 304, Alianna wrote: So basically, there's a trust chain of patch ---> Klick ---> Drew. Assuming that scum will always reciprocate trust offers made by town (which is debatable but I don't hate it as an assumption), Drew can't be scum unless Klick is also scum. But Klick can't be scum unless you're scum, which isn't possible if Drew is scum. So Drew is most likely town here.

oh! okay

patchwork · Post Post #307 (isolation #48) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:28 am

In post 295, Black wrote: Just a heads up I won't be around much this weekend. I would accept the mayor position if everyone agreed

Right now I'm feeling like mala, Merlyn, and patch might be the riskiest options to pair with people. Nothing much here other than their eagerness to trust fall. I could easily be wrong about them

Alianna is pinging me too for some reason and I can't really explain it. Maybe LAMIST? Less so than the three above

I'm most confident in skygazer and Drew atm but the confidence isn't very high here. That's typical me though. Ghandi feels ok I think

Klick feels ok but I'm always wary here so I think we wait it out. His eagerness to get people out of the game could be a bad sign but not necessarily one

Random Nurse we wait for

Did I miss anyone?

nope, you didn't miss anyone!
i just wanted to back up what merlyn said about personalpref + reads- remember that scum ALSO wins if they make it to october 12th and passes the 20 day deadline. i think you're definitely town, sure, but just to be clear.
also, i have no scum motivation to trust you and klick, lol. there's no point in me targeting people who have stated they are indifferent about me (you said i was in both my town and scumrange, klick has me in their null). i think it woul dbe more advantageous for scum!me to target someone like merlyn who would be easier to pocket, but because i'm unsure about merlyn i'm not doing that.

out of curisosity, how is alianna pinging you?

patchwork · Post Post #308 (isolation #49) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:29 am

In post 299, Skygazer wrote: fine w Black as mayor

busy today and tomorrow but i'll try to get some firmer reads

OMG your name is green now !!!

patchwork · Post Post #309 (isolation #50) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:30 am

In post 297, Klick wrote: I also have Alianna on my radar as decently likely scum

why?

patchwork · Post Post #312 (isolation #51) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:38 am

In post 311, Skygazer wrote:
In post 308, patchwork wrote: OMG your name is green now !!!
i think that must mean i'm town?

/s

LMAO
how did u get silly green name though? how does that work

patchwork · Post Post #313 (isolation #52) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:38 am

OH MY GOD YOU'RE A LIST MOD
CONGRATS

patchwork · Post Post #343 (isolation #53) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:07 am

In post 320, Malakittens wrote: Ps my mom put ghost pepper in chili and I wanna die

JUST SO IF I AN MIA for two days I died bc of this fuckinf shit

i love spicy things sounds great

patchwork · Post Post #344 (isolation #54) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:07 am

In post 322, Malakittens wrote: For me I wouldn’t pair with the following (no order btw)

Random nurse, patch, maybe sky, ali

why alianna?

patchwork · Post Post #345 (isolation #55) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:08 am

In post 337, Alianna wrote: I almost died from a poblano once. Good luck Mala!

damn fucking rip

patchwork · Post Post #346 (isolation #56) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:09 am

In post 338, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 337, Alianna wrote: I almost died from a poblano once. Good luck Mala!
What??

Oh you would hate my cooking.

:HANDSHAKE:

patchwork · Post Post #347 (isolation #57) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:09 am

patchwork · Post Post #348 (isolation #58) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:09 am

there we go

patchwork · Post Post #487 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:41 am

gg that was fun