Skygazer's Mini Normal Review, June 2023 (Released)
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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I sure hope the scum this game like investigative rolesNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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DkKoba They/ThemSurvivorThey/Them
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My first normal I designed had a combined Vigilante doctor Mason with the only roles it could kill being the ascetic masonsIn post 21, Ausuka wrote: 1-shot combined jailkeeper vanilla cop-
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setup info wrote: 13p mini normal w/ daytalk & multitasking scum- town innocent child mason
- town roaming babysitter mason
- town 1-shot pt cop
- town 1-shot role cop
- town vengeful miller
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- mafia 1-shot complex cop
- mafia 1-shot vanilla cop
- mafia informed babysitter-finder (four players in this game have roles that start with "1-shot" and end with "cop.")
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Spoiler: results-
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Skygazer anyFor My Next Guestany
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i feel like this setup is kinda memey to some extent-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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I mean yeahNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Skygazer anyFor My Next Guestany
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hi did this pass? i can run it since there's nothing in the queue-
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DkKoba They/ThemSurvivorThey/Them
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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hi - sorry i thought i said it more explicitly, but yeah i pass thisNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Hi where are we with this? Passing?-
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If memory serves, only the primary needs to pass it these days but I'm not 100% on that.-
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Sure, can you just quote the final version of the set-up and Role PMs as a new post?In post 34, Skygazer wrote: If memory serves, only the primary needs to pass it these days but I'm not 100% on that.-
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13p mini normal w/ daytalk & multitasking scum- town innocent child mason
- town roaming babysitter mason
- town 1-shot pt cop
- town 1-shot role cop
- town vengeful miller
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- mafia 1-shot complex cop
- mafia 1-shot vanilla cop
- mafia informed babysitter-finder (four players in this game have roles that start with "1-shot" and end with "cop.")
Spoiler: role PMs
Spoiler: results-
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DkKoba They/ThemSurvivorThey/Them
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"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky-
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this may be townsided
granted I don't think anyone else can be cleared here except the vengeful if they get rolecopped; scum found the role cop with their vanilla cop btw-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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Mafia could probably claim something to make bob and black less clearNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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a member of the mafia wrote: Wait, do we really think Bob is a 2-shot Macho Cop? That would mean there’s 2 other 1-shot cops AND a 2-shot Macho Cop in the town, which is wild.-
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Mm yeah I thought about it and I shouldn't have passed this
I think in setups like this one there's a lot of variance which makes me want to rely on the rule of thumb to try and go after the median outcome and balance that. But in this game the outcome of "town fires three clears, they have a protective, the pt cop is clearish, and mafia don't have much counterplay" is pretty commonNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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There are also worlds where the babysitter is used as a protective and mafia kill the babysitter etc or scum kill a pr n1 or the rolecop gets a misclear on the complex cop etc etc but I think players tend to find the townsided outcomes worse and in this case they were significantly more likely
Babysitter feels like a weird role in general. Maybe I should balance it more similarly to a doctor than I currently do? It's just. So strange in how it plays outNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Ausuka she/herTeam Mafia Winnershe/her
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Probably also should have taken this to its logical conclusion >.>In post 25, Ausuka wrote: I sure hope the scum this game like investigative rolesNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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i guess in general if i feel the need to add scum power it might be worth thinking about taking away town power instead
we'll see how night 2 goes!
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