YepIn post 547, Hu Tao wrote:So isn't this a slip from him? that's why I was confused why he said ifIn post 542, Vanderscamp wrote:This should not be an if from your povIn post 537, Infinity 324 wrote: I'm ok with going outside the 50/50, but vander is likely to be the demon if scum.
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It is mechanically possible but I'd argue it's pretty absurdIn post 548, Hu Tao wrote: Also. Is there ANY possible way that both Vander and infinity is scum and this is a gambit? Or is that mechanically impossible?-
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Okay then I'd personally like to go in the confirmed scum pool of 2 then.-
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I think I've already explained why I think this is a bad idea and I'm just repeating myself here but:In post 552, Hu Tao wrote: Okay then I'd personally like to go in the confirmed scum pool of 2 then.
Infinity is pretty much confirmed to not be the demon. And if there are twins, it's much better to deal with that after we've deal with the demon. If we vote Infinity now we only have one shot at voting the demon tomorrow, whereas if we go for the demon we have 2 attempts before we have to deal with the twins.
Vanderscamp is the better option of the two, but since we lose immediately if we are wrong on that, I think we should only consider that tomorrow when it's lylo.-
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I feel like from your point of view the ideal thing to do would be to take two shots at the demon and then vote Infinity, rather than vote Infinity now and then only have one shot? The advantages of going with Infinity here seems pretty minor compared to the massive disadvantage of shortening the game by a day.In post 540, Vanderscamp wrote:
This statement is patently false, there are advantages and disadvantages to both methods.In post 535, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
patently false on many levelsIn post 526, Hu Tao wrote: I think voting in the 50/50 is better
The reasons it might be better to do the 50/50 are that I think it's pretty obvious, while the demon pool isn't obvious. Killing infinity might also help provide info on who the demon is based on subsequent info.
I don't feel super strongly about either side being better-
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Can you explain why I'm the better option?In post 553, atsi wrote:
I think I've already explained why I think this is a bad idea and I'm just repeating myself here but:In post 552, Hu Tao wrote: Okay then I'd personally like to go in the confirmed scum pool of 2 then.
Infinity is pretty much confirmed to not be the demon. And if there are twins, it's much better to deal with that after we've deal with the demon. If we vote Infinity now we only have one shot at voting the demon tomorrow, whereas if we go for the demon we have 2 attempts before we have to deal with the twins.
Vanderscamp is the better option of the two, but since we lose immediately if we are wrong on that, I think we should only consider that tomorrow when it's lylo.
I think I'm the worse option even without my own POV-
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I agree, if I know for a fact that infinity's dying late game then going for demons first is better, although there is some good chance that infinity dying first will give us info that will make up for on average half of a kill or something.In post 554, atsi wrote:
I feel like from your point of view the ideal thing to do would be to take two shots at the demon and then vote Infinity, rather than vote Infinity now and then only have one shot? The advantages of going with Infinity here seems pretty minor compared to the massive disadvantage of shortening the game by a day.In post 540, Vanderscamp wrote:
This statement is patently false, there are advantages and disadvantages to both methods.In post 535, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
patently false on many levelsIn post 526, Hu Tao wrote: I think voting in the 50/50 is better
The reasons it might be better to do the 50/50 are that I think it's pretty obvious, while the demon pool isn't obvious. Killing infinity might also help provide info on who the demon is based on subsequent info.
I don't feel super strongly about either side being better
The reason I don't think it's super strong in that direction is that I've been burned many times by making mechanical kills only to have town mess it up in end game.-
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We should be pretty conservative with dead votes here btw, we shouldn't use any if we can help it; if we miss today then being at 2 vs 2 is going to make it impossible to make majority without at least one dead vote, and we really want to be saving them as much as possible-
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In a vacuum piggy is probably the best kill since they're the only role that won't keep providing info, and my reads of players don't do anything to change that-
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Yeah, I am not even THINKING of touching my dead vote until endgame.In post 561, Vanderscamp wrote: We should be pretty conservative with dead votes here btw, we shouldn't use any if we can help it; if we miss today then being at 2 vs 2 is going to make it impossible to make majority without at least one dead vote, and we really want to be saving them as much as possibleOfficial Gimmick List:
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this is a very silly argument i was talking to someone who does not know vander is scumIn post 547, Hu Tao wrote:
So isn't this a slip from him? :lol: that's why I was confused why he said ifIn post 542, Vanderscamp wrote:
This should not be an if from your povIn post 537, Infinity 324 wrote: I'm ok with going outside the 50/50, but vander is likely to be the demon if scum.-
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I understand your reasoning. But there is still a chance both can be scum. So I don't see the reason of voting outside it. Eventually we have to vote in this pair anyway.In post 553, atsi wrote:
I think I've already explained why I think this is a bad idea and I'm just repeating myself here but:In post 552, Hu Tao wrote: Okay then I'd personally like to go in the confirmed scum pool of 2 then.
Infinity is pretty much confirmed to not be the demon. And if there are twins, it's much better to deal with that after we've deal with the demon. If we vote Infinity now we only have one shot at voting the demon tomorrow, whereas if we go for the demon we have 2 attempts before we have to deal with the twins.
Vanderscamp is the better option of the two, but since we lose immediately if we are wrong on that, I think we should only consider that tomorrow when it's lylo.-
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OH RIGHT the deadline. we should probably get on that?? maybe??-
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Lots of errors in that vote count @mod-
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In post 570, Hu Tao wrote: Lots of errors in that vote count @modCan you clarify?Wizard-Mercenary
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