Open 884: Another Newbie Game | Game Over!

[DragonEater70]

VC 2.5

Vote Count 2.5

Infinity 324 (2 = E-2): KittyTacky, Dannflor
KittyTacky (1): Infinity 324
Gamma Emerald (1): Dunnstral
Purplemango (1): Gamma Emerald
Not voting (2): Mr.K, Purplemango

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in

(expired on 2023-10-03 07:48:32)

[Purplemango]

Actually I don’t think I need that answered
VOTE: Purplemango
I just combed his ISO, I think his tone towards Oopsie feels like scum who wants to take out Oopsie but cannot find an angle for a vote. That resulted in zir killing her off, which I think is why ze’s going so hard on the “infinity wouldn’t kill Oopsie angle”, there’s inside knowledge. Whether that’s actually spewing infinity town I’m not fully decided, but I lean towards it being that way.

If I did kill her, wouldn't it have been better to let dann continue with the initial line of thought instead of trying to explain why killing oppsiedaisy actually makes sense to me?

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe, it could also be a play for townie brownie points

[Purplemango]

Make sense
It also doesn't really help to know if infinity are scum or not, maybe we are both scum and planned everything in advance to make it believable or something

[Purplemango]

It would have worked better if I had tried to kill them, not the other way around
So it doesn't really work, but ignore this fact

[Mr.K]

Well, for once a lot has happened here.

I agree with Dunnstral on #364 and I don't think #369 really clears that at all.

However, funnily enough I think #367 makes her seem a bit more town to me. My first take was of course the confirmation on how we simply seem to be seeing things completely differently. I mean, I - for instance - happen to think that openly admitting to eating the confirmation-bias apple doesn't mean anything at all. Confirmation bias is something that literally everyone has. To me seeing someone think that admitting confirmation bias is bad is potentially emotional reasoning and in any case poor problem solving. But people are different. This would also probably tie into my earlier thoughts as well ones I discussed in #316) and my whole issue with her vibing and whatnot. It's also entirely possible that Gamma's actual thought process doesn't perfectly reflect what she posts, so the only way I could even attempt to put this into context would be if I had played with her before. And so I did what I didn't really want to do, and went back to reading that other game she was earlier referring to.

And to me it seems in that in that game she was vibing a lot less, and generally being more analytical than in this game. But in that game she was scum. So the way she's playing now isn't how she was playing when she was scum in the other game. This is of course only two games that I'm looking at (and I wasn't even playing the other game so in context the game might have been different) but I don't know... it makes me think that it could be that she is more analytical than she lets out in this game (so she is scum hunting) but is more guarded with what she says when she's town. I also sort of understand her case against Purple, and it's mostly consistent with her D1 too.

So what to do when I thought she's scum, then got a bit of this (agreeing with Dunnstral) and a bit of that (looking at the other game)? I guess I'm stuck at "maybe she's not."

And so right now I'd vote Infinity if it didn't put them at E-1.

[Infinity 324]

Make sense
It also doesn't really help to know if infinity are scum or not, maybe we are both scum and planned everything in advance to make it believable or something

VOTE: purplemango i don't love this, it seems like trying to get townread by wifom more than anything else

should probably do some isos atp but I feel like I should reconsider dann

[Purplemango]

Make sense
It also doesn't really help to know if infinity are scum or not, maybe we are both scum and planned everything in advance to make it believable or something

VOTE: purplemango i don't love this, it seems like trying to get townread by wifom more than anything else

should probably do some isos atp but I feel like I should reconsider dann

How?, if you ok with telling me

[Infinity 324]

maybe you thought people would townread you because "scum wouldn't talk about how they could be scum"

i just don't really get why that's your focus instead of finding mafia

[Purplemango]

maybe you thought people would townread you because "scum wouldn't talk about how they could be scum"

i just don't really get why that's your focus instead of finding mafia

scum will talk about it, assuming there will be a situation where it fits so as not to look suspicious or something
I also try to talk about who I think is scum, and look for options that make sense to me, there just aren't many at the moment because I don't know the players well enough to know what's weird, or the site to know what does make sense that would happen (not sure that's understandable, sorry about that)

[Infinity 324]

it makes sense, and i could see you being town here, but other people look more town to me

[Purplemango]

Yea make sense, thank u for explaining

[DragonEater70]

VC 2.6

Vote Count 2.6

Infinity 324 (2 = E-2): KittyTacky, Dannflor
Purplemango (2 = E-2): Gamma Emerald, Infinity 324
Gamma Emerald (1): Dunnstral
Not voting (2): Mr.K, Purplemango

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in

(expired on 2023-10-03 07:48:32)

[Dunnstral]

You are saying I’m saying scum is within Infinity and Dannflor
My response is refuting that by explaining how your scope is too narrow

You are voting for Purplemango right now, were they pushing Kitty?

[Gamma Emerald]

Not particularly, but:

I don't have an opinion on [Dann] or kittytacky that is relevant right now, I have no problem killing him, I'd rather not [Dann]

This is just bothers the shit out of me. What the fuck is the distinction that makes Kitty okay to let die but Dann not? This feels like the type of shit I would pull as scum, making arbitrary distinctions in my approach to players to warp the solving landscape.
Also: I think that is the least constructive response you could have posted to my push. It looks like you are trying to nitpick away my position. IF YOU ARE TOWN,

STOP

.

[Purplemango]

Not particularly, but:

I don't have an opinion on [Dann] or kittytacky that is relevant right now, I have no problem killing him, I'd rather not [Dann]

This is just bothers the shit out of me. What the fuck is the distinction that makes Kitty okay to let die but Dann not? This feels like the type of shit I would pull as scum, making arbitrary distinctions in my approach to players to warp the solving landscape.
Also: I think that is the least constructive response you could have posted to my push. It looks like you are trying to nitpick away my position. IF YOU ARE TOWN,

STOP

.

What is the tone of this?

I made a distinction between them because they were both in the same position as far as I was concerned when I wrote this and Dann spoke more, not much thought around it

can you elaborate?

[Gamma Emerald]

So you’re saying you were less interested in voting Dann because he was actually involved?

[Purplemango]

Yea?
To me it make sense

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay that tracks
UNVOTE:
Not convinced your town but I don’t know what to really make of your self-awareness here. I know from my own self that it’s possible to have your brand of self-awareness as town but I think unless you have certain personality quirks, it probably takes training to do.

[Purplemango]

Not particularly, but:

I don't have an opinion on [Dann] or kittytacky that is relevant right now, I have no problem killing him, I'd rather not [Dann]

This is just bothers the shit out of me. What the fuck is the distinction that makes Kitty okay to let die but Dann not? This feels like the type of shit I would pull as scum, making arbitrary distinctions in my approach to players to warp the solving landscape.
Also: I think that is the least constructive response you could have posted to my push. It looks like you are trying to nitpick away my position. IF YOU ARE TOWN,

STOP

.

I didn't understand what you meant by the last thing u saud

[Purplemango]

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