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DragonEater70Last edited by Enchant on Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:15 am, edited 1 time in total.Wizard-Mercenary
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Thanks Enchant, and sorry for bullying you into opening this(joke), anyway here's what I was thinking:
First of all, Hu Tao suggesting to lim in VS/Infinity is +scum
Second, I think Infinity basically scumslipped by saying there's a confirmed Vortox, and here's why:
if Infinity is town, then Vander is evil and is either minion or demon.
If Anix is evil, evil!Vander must be the demon and CAN'T be Vortox due to town getting correct info. In this world, Piggy and Nurse would both get correct info. But this would mean Vander is exactly a No Dashi that didn't confuse either Piggy or Nurse. But then how did Atsi get a result like that? So Vander MUST be Vortox and Simultaneously CAN'T be Vortox - which confirms AniX is not evil.
If AniX is town, there must be a Vortox, because of the info claimed.
So turns out it wasn't a scumslip after all, it's actually confirmed to be a town!AniX, Vortox!demon world from town!Infinity's viewpoint.-
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Situation of game pretty stupid, but if i bet i probably bet on town win.Wizard-Mercenary
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In a Vander town world, Infinity is minion and AniX can't be demon due to nightkill still happening, so AniX is conftown.
If AniX is conftown then there are two possibilites:
1. Nurse is town and there's a Vortox
2. Nurse is No Dashi and is poisoning HPE causing the Klutz to be irrelevant. This would explain Piggy's result but not atsi's result so it also can't happen.
So in a town!Vander world, AniX and Nurse are both conftown and there must be a Vortox as well.-
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Yeah they have a lot of info
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Publicly available info:
-There's a Vortox
-AniX is town
-At least one (but maybe possibly both? I haven't looked into it) of Vander/Infinity is scum
-If Vander is town, Nurse is 100% town. If Infinity is town, Nurse is town barring a shenanigan where HPE is lying as town, which I don't think is possible.-
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I lol'd but this is true. RN said they liked info based setups but they aren't paying attention to the info confirming AniX as town.In post 455, Vanderscamp wrote:
Maybe one day you will read my postsIn post 421, Random Nurse wrote:In post 417, Infinity 324 wrote: if there does have to be a vortox, that means anix is town then right? i don't see why that's not the world we live in
i do think I have to be limmed today cause of Occam's razor, which is a bit frustrating because there's no way to know for sure that vander is lying, but I don't see what else we can doIn post 418, Infinity 324 wrote: @random nurse I'm pretty sure barring extreme circumstances anix has to be town
That I don't know.
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Btw proud of AniX here bc this is a game that can and should be mechsolved and they're doing a great job at it.-
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I just realized that if someone claims to have read role PM incorrectly they can confirm Hu Tao as town.-
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Savant receives two wrongs with Vortox.
I find Savant to be pretty busted role, and it has same value in original.
It really... demands creativity though.
If you give savant too good info, they just steamroll and if info is useless, then it's very disappointing.
... nevermind mad evil team against savant.
Either way, Role PM considering gamestate is INSANE boost. I even regret making it, as when (or... if) they realise what it means, it can solve at minimum one problem. Or won't.Wizard-Mercenary
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EVIL TEAM WANTS TO DO THIS THING.
OH GOD NO.Wizard-Mercenary
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Which thing?In post 12, Enchant wrote: EVIL TEAM WANTS TO DO THIS THING.-
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In post 13, DragonEater70 wrote:
Which thing?In post 12, Enchant wrote: EVIL TEAM WANTS TO DO THIS THING.They want to wait until end of deadline and try to tie vote so no execution happen and Vortox forces evil win.Wizard-Mercenary
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According to rules.
Yes.Wizard-Mercenary
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Thankfully second evil is probably not here and won't be able to do so.Wizard-Mercenary
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I haven't done the math but i think there's guaranteed one scum in vander/infinity and also guaranteed one scum in piggy/infinity based on what you said in the spoiler, so if nobody dies it should be a good idea to kill infinity and if somebody dies it should be a good idea to kill vander.-
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In post 19, DragonEater70 wrote: I haven't done the math but i think there's guaranteed one scum in vander/infinity and also guaranteed one scum in piggy/infinity based on what you said in the spoiler, so if nobody dies it should be a good idea to kill infinity and if somebody dies it should be a good idea to kill vander.You are correct. But Demon can sink NK in dead player.
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I am speechlessIn post 633, Vanderscamp wrote: Sorry, I did get a 1, when I read the PM I registered it in my head as "this means the demon is dead" and then forgot what the actual number was.
I know that sounds terrible and I might have fucked it but that's what happened-
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Correct me if I'm wrong but this confirms atsi as good.In post 661, Hu Tao wrote: Oh boy. I have a juicy savant today.
1. There is four Townsfolk alive.
2. Atsi and Random Nurse are not aligned-
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Which actually means infinity > vander 100% wins the game.-
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Sadly not.In post 23, DragonEater70 wrote: Which actually means infinity > vander 100% wins the game.
Infinity is good twin. Overlooked this part of role PM mentioning Evil Twin (i mean WITH RED LETTERS) and won't bother to recheck even after i gived tips that someone didn't read role PM.
I technically could smite and ask Infinity to check role PM again, but it will inevitably result in confirmation+IT COULD be possible that Infinity trying to troll everyone else.
I may want to contact list mod, but it's for emergency.Wizard-Mercenary
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