Open 887: Coalition of Frogs (Game Over)

[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.6

It is currently the Coalition Phase. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to confirm a coalition. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-10-11 13:11:19).

Coalition Votes

Aristeia, Bellaphant, Datisi, Hero at Heart, implosion (2)

- Hero at Heart, Aristeia

Bellaphant, Doctor Drew, Hero at Heart, implosion, Merlyn (1)

- Doctor Drew

Aristeia, Datisi, Hero At Heart, implosion, Merlyn (1)

- TheHoldSteady

Datisi

- Bellaphant

Bellaphant, Datisi, Hero at Heart, implosion

- Datisi

Datisi, Doctor Drew, implosion, Merlyn

- Merlyn

Not Voting (2)

- implosion, Malakittens

Elimination Votes

TheHoldSteady (2)

- Datisi, Hero at Heart

Aristeia (1)

- Bellaphant

Hero at Heart (1)

- TheHoldSteady

Not Voting (5)

- Aristeia, Doctor Drew, implosion, Malakittens, Merlyn

Flavour

[Hero at Heart]

okay hopefully with datisi's replacement it's either easier for implo and ari to see town!datisi, or the rep-in changes my mind about the slot and we go for another coalition.

There was a certain degree of playing the game in a competent, relaxed manner that I was inclined to townread from him, and I feel like that's what you've been describing in this game.

I don't feel as strongly as he does that Datisi is town.

i do understand what you mean, because i went and skimmed datisi's iso in Election, and yeah he can fake a pretty convincing relaxed, competent town attitude. but that's now what i'm tring him for, i'm tring him for sounding like an uninformed, confused and uncertain townie. and like, if i played in Election i would probably moderately tr him there, sure. but this is not the same vibe at all.

but anyway let's see with the rep.

[Ausuka]

Save the Dragons replaces Datisi.

[Save The Dragons]

ribbit

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:
HURT: everyone

[Save The Dragons]

it won't actually do anything until a coalition is locked in. you see i wanted to do this thing where i naked vote someone as a sign of being Sus of them because i didn't feel like actually typing out actual words. and you made me type out actual words. look what you've done

I can only apologize, I will send a gift basket first thing in the morning hoping my wrong has been righted(not a dig on you, just having some fun lol).

i hope i inherit the gift basket

[Save The Dragons]

HEAL: std, ari

[implosion]

I think I'm just being paranoid. I'm probably limmed if this is wrong aren't I? Your coal is good.

Do you mean if the me/ari/hero/datisi/bella coalition is wrong? If so, why would you be limmed if that coalition went through and was wrong?

Damn, my reads are a mess right now.

Kinda feel good about THS, and weirdly worse about Merlyn.

Your not just saying this because I just said this, right?

Touché (i just gave the same reads on both THS and Merlyn last page)

I don't really understand your questions towards me. I'm offering a compromise bc if Hero accepts then there are more folks in the coalition that I tr. If THAT's not 'how a coalition works' then I don't know how a coalition works. I'd be the one 'making the decision who to sub out for who' bc I'm the one making the suggestion. I don't know if that phrasing makes any sense either way, though, bc I don't have the power to 'make the decision' for the coalition and neither does Hero. Even if he and I end up agreeing it doesn't mean three others will too. Re: distrust- his very acceptance or denial of the offer will also affect my read on him if this coalition fails.

I'm also not really understanding what you mean by 'this coalition is unilaterally final'. I don't think it's final, that's why I'm trying to suggest other options. If you don't agree with it, propose a different coalition?

The question was I guess why you're willing to engage in coalition building in that way with someone you don't trust, where you aren't making the decision because you were essentially asking them to decide who to sub out for who. Like if you had the magic power that your suggestion had to be followed, and the person you're talking to was scum, they'd just use it to get a coalition that is equally good or better for them. Because in some sense the coalition is worthless unless it's all-town. This response does answer the question more or less though.

The "unilaterally final" thing was referencing hero's attitude toward coalition building which was ostensibly "i have decided, kindly sheep me" at the time. It's interesting to hear specifically you asking me to propose a different coalition, given that you've constantly been talking about how it's townie to not be in a rush - the reason I haven't proposed a full specific coalition is because I've been nominally waiting to see if one of various useful possible events happen (e.g. Mala starts posting more and is actually obvious town, hero/others are willing to reconsider THS, etc).

[implosion]

It's disheartening to see Mala's only post in the last 48 hours to be contentless.

[implosion]

How much of the game have you read, STD?

[Hero at Heart]

ah, std. this will be a breeze then

std how far have you read?

[Hero at Heart]

also i really wanna know more about your ari read if you don't mind

like i think she's town but i have doubts so it would be good to hear your perspective too

[Aristeia]

It's disheartening to see Mala's only post in the last 48 hours to be contentless.

I've seen her be completely contentless as town unfortunately so it's kind of a tossup

[Aristeia]

Day 1 ends in 8 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes.

this deadline is for both coalition + elimination so we probably should finalize before it gets too close to the deadline.

[Hero at Heart]

i agree with ari

[Hero at Heart]

std can you obvtown so implo is sold on coalitioning you and we can get stuff done?

[Save The Dragons]

I read like 4 pages I think

[Save The Dragons]

I like hero too

HEAL: std, ari, hero

[Save The Dragons]

I genuinely like ari when she's taking names and kicking ass and I think she's doing that here

Though last game I played with her she wasn't really doing that and I suspected her and she was town

[TheHoldSteady]

HURT: Merlyn

HEAL: Bellaphant

I'm not completely convinced that Bellaphant won't break this but we do need to save time for phase two, and I think this is about as good as it might get.

[Hero at Heart]

ok can i say something and you promise not to laugh at me?

Spoiler: pls don't laugh at me am not stupid, i am just sleep deprived

so i looked at std's coalition vote and was wondering how come he is not including datisi in the coalition or at least commenting on him, and then i realized it's the same slot
also std reversed is dts which is like dats which is ari's nickname for datisi. isn't that cool?

yeah i think i should go to sleep now. my sebse of humor is beyond broken.

[Hero at Heart]

also i may be confided but this std sounds town.

[Doctor Drew]

I genuinely like ari when she's taking names and kicking ass and I think she's doing that here

Though last game I played with her she wasn't really doing that and I suspected her and she was town

From what I have seen as of late(only as town), is more like this, more laid back.

But, she also appears more confident as town imo.

[Doctor Drew]

it won't actually do anything until a coalition is locked in. you see i wanted to do this thing where i naked vote someone as a sign of being Sus of them because i didn't feel like actually typing out actual words. and you made me type out actual words. look what you've done

I can only apologize, I will send a gift basket first thing in the morning hoping my wrong has been righted(not a dig on you, just having some fun lol).

i hope i inherit the gift basket

Yes of course, are you more of a chocolates and fruit guy, or is wine and cheese your jam?

[Merlyn]

I don't know who is scum. Pass the chocolate