Open 885: Backup6 [Game Over]

[Aureal]

ofc I wouldn't want to fade T3
I caught onto that soft and by the time I was available to hammer the CW I can't tell between Dann and Dunn I'm dumm kek
great I love being a wagoned

also why would I hammer when I know I'm basically kingmade in that situation, we could easily squeeze a few days of discussion in there
@Dunn I don't like ur logic

This kinda just feels like a bad excuse not to hammer Dannflor

You think scum iamveryhappy would be so hesitant to hammer town Dannflor?

[Black]

i mean i want to agree but how likely is it that scum dannflor just lets happy do that

I don't know how scum Dannflor plays, and even considering your anecdote I still think this sequence of events from happy is very strange

[Black]

ofc I wouldn't want to fade T3
I caught onto that soft and by the time I was available to hammer the CW I can't tell between Dann and Dunn I'm dumm kek
great I love being a wagoned

also why would I hammer when I know I'm basically kingmade in that situation, we could easily squeeze a few days of discussion in there
@Dunn I don't like ur logic

This kinda just feels like a bad excuse not to hammer Dannflor

You think scum iamveryhappy would be so hesitant to hammer town Dannflor?

I'm considering a world where they are scum together

[Black]

idk

[Dannflor]

i mean i want to agree but how likely is it that scum dannflor just lets happy do that

I don't know how scum Dannflor plays, and even considering your anecdote I still think this sequence of events from happy is very strange

i can see scum!iavh acting just as awkward in a situation where he is a kingmaker between two town wagons

idk if he's actually scum yet but that would be a very awkward position to be in especially as inexperienced scum

[Black]

i mean i want to agree but how likely is it that scum dannflor just lets happy do that

I don't know how scum Dannflor plays, and even considering your anecdote I still think this sequence of events from happy is very strange

i can see scum!iavh acting just as awkward in a situation where he is a kingmaker between two town wagons

idk if he's actually scum yet but that would be a very awkward position to be in especially as inexperienced scum

I feel like he's much less likely to freeze in a situation where the game state completely favors him

[camelCasedSnivy]

you guys are finally figuring it out

[Black]

you guys are finally figuring it out

Didn't you say iavh is town and you'll die on that hill?

[camelCasedSnivy]

ofc I wouldn't want to fade T3
I caught onto that soft and by the time I was available to hammer the CW I can't tell between Dann and Dunn I'm dumm kek
great I love being a wagoned

also why would I hammer when I know I'm basically kingmade in that situation, we could easily squeeze a few days of discussion in there
@Dunn I don't like ur logic

This kinda just feels like a bad excuse not to hammer Dannflor

You think scum iamveryhappy would be so hesitant to hammer town Dannflor?

am talking about this

[Dannflor]

are you saying im scum?

[camelCasedSnivy]

not because of that

im ssying iavh is town from that

[Dannflor]

you thought iavh was town before that though - is that just like a soul read?

[camelCasedSnivy]

im saying you guys are finally figuring it out

[camelCasedSnivy]

like because aureal is saying that universe likely doesnt exist so either youre scum or iavhs town (and aureal isnt voting you)

[Dannflor]

im just asking you to explain your reads more bro pls

[iamveryhappy]

*laughs in 1000+ mafia games played on PS!*
I don't freeze up here
but
FREEZE RAY!

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #2

Abnegation

(2): Black (837), Dannflor (850)

Aureal

(1): camelCasedSnivy (825)

camelCasedSnivy

(2): Aureal (819), meowmeow (842)

Not Voting

(2): Abnegation, iamveryhappy

With seven alive, it takes four votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

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Pronoun Key

1. camelCasedSnivy : he / him / his
3. Black : she / her / her
4. Aureal : she / her / her
6. Dannflor : he / him / his
7. meowmeow : any / any / any
8. iamveryhappy : he / him / his
9. Abnegation : she / her / her

[meowmeow]

i mean i want to agree but how likely is it that scum dannflor just lets happy do that

I don't know how scum Dannflor plays, and even considering your anecdote I still think this sequence of events from happy is very strange

i can see scum!iavh acting just as awkward in a situation where he is a kingmaker between two town wagons

idk if he's actually scum yet but that would be a very awkward position to be in especially as inexperienced scum

i hate that i keep agreeing with dannflor but i agree with dannflor

i don't think a scum player freezing in that situation is unrealistic at all. scum as a rule of thumb, particularly less experienced ones, tend to hate taking responsibility for town eliminations because they want to avoid the spotlight. if happy wasn't particularly worried about the elimination shifting towards his partner - or even if he worried a hammer would create an associative - he might be very reluctant to take the initiative, especially if he doesn't feel like he has to

[Dannflor]

i hate that i keep agreeing with dannflor but i agree with dannflor

maybe we're both even town this game!

[meowmeow]

impossible, when was the last time we were both town and fought each other

[meowmeow]

if happy is scum i just don't really feel like it's with dannflor. i guess it's not impossible. i think snivy/dann fits a lot better in terms of scumflor world

i think snivy's read on happy is, like, pretty anti associative? like the feeling i get from it is mostly just 'oh hey snivy is scum and knows happy is town' - idk if that's tunneled but it is what it is. if snivy is scum, it's definitely not an intuitive move to go to bat for happy for like no reason

maybe i should think happy is town if i don't think he's scum with dannflor or snivy. shrug.

i should also review my townreads although none of them really ~feel~ like scum to me. i think black's theorising about dann/happy comes off pretty town and in general i have liked her since the beginning of the game - would be particularly surprised if she flipped scum here. abnegation i've already explained; it's not impossible i'm just being shitty and overthinking things, and that is something i sometimes do, but she doesn't come off as scum playing it short-term survivalist or scum with any kind of strategy. i liked aureal's early game, but she might be the one here i'm most likely to be wrong about? i find her treatment of my slot to be odd, but her early d2 makes me just want to keep her as a townread because it feels very town. i guess it could be scum with specifically snivy?

[Dannflor]

I was about to post that a snivy red flip probably spews iavh town

[meowmeow]

one braincell

[Dannflor]

it feels really weird that like my most confident read right now is meowmeow town

(i dont know how to say this in a way that's not pockety sorry)

I just feel like I should be paranoid but all of your posts feel obv town to me

[meowmeow]

wow i can't believe dannflor is deepwolfing me