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[usesPython]

Python you wanted to generate content by jumping on wagons, didn't you? Let's do this.

VOTE: black

NOTE: DO NOT HAMMER BLACK OR YOU WILL BE POLICY LIMMED

I'm not interested in a Black wagon tbh

[Aneninen]

Kittie and Black looks a bit more town than before.
DragonEater is much scummier, the posts I mentioned above, and the opportunistic vote on me before.
Knott - I don't know, let's see what comes next.
Timmer produced nothing new, still townish.
Comet may be town.
Python is still town, I can easily see a town mindset behind that "trollhammer", too. (Why is it called "meme"?)
Gimli is scummy, regardless of that NAI part about the hammer.

So, it's something like
[town]
Python
Comet
Timmer
Knott
Black
Kittie
Gimli
Dragon
[scum]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DragonEater

[Aneninen]

Python you wanted to generate content by jumping on wagons, didn't you? Let's do this.
VOTE: black
NOTE: DO NOT HAMMER BLACK OR YOU WILL BE POLICY LIMMED

So... you asked Python who they think the scum were. Python gave 3 names. You picked one of them - not even me who's closest to Elimination now -, then you launched a new wagon to E-1 it. The actual fork?

DE's the only person voting Black, she's not at E-1

Rephrase then: Yes, launched by Dragon but he also told that he wanted to see what happened once it got to E-1.

[DragonEater70]

Oh cool

Thanks VIP

VOTE: Dragon

[DragonEater70]

Python you wanted to generate content by jumping on wagons, didn't you? Let's do this.

VOTE: black

NOTE: DO NOT HAMMER BLACK OR YOU WILL BE POLICY LIMMED

I'm not interested in a Black wagon tbh

I'll tell you a secret once someone who isn't you or VIP votes me.

[Aneninen]

IN what universe that self-vote makes sense?
Why are you technically asking others but Python to vote for you so that you can tell them a secret?

[DragonEater70]

1) what would be the purpose between having 2 types of game play for scum or town? If your a regular player would it not make more sense to have a consistent game play to keep everyone guessing?? Just a thought. Having 2 game play types would just tip people off when you are indeed scum. no??

Playing different as scum than as town comes from several reasons:
First, as scum you have a different objective than as town: as town you want to find the scum and eliminate them, whereas as scum you want to eliminate town and look towny enough to avoid being eliminated (or get eliminated but take a few townies down with you). So when you have a different objective you'll do different things. For example, scum players will *generally* be more cautious not to do scummy things than if they were town.
Second, scum generally *do* try to imitate how they play as town, but it's not always easy. As town, you don't know things, and can actually suspect people. As scum, you have to fake not knowing things, and you have to fake suspecting people. And sure, you might be able to fake the same types of suspicions that you would if you were town, but often you can't. For example, when I play Avalon irl, then as scum I often "suspect" the people that the town leader suspects, but not the people that I would actually suspect if I were town, because I find that it's more convincing.

[DragonEater70]

IN what universe that self-vote makes sense?
Why are you technically asking others but Python to vote for you so that you can tell them a secret?

In what universe does voting Black make sense?

I am not asking anyone to vote me. But if anyone does, I'll tell Python a secret.

[Aneninen]

IN what universe that self-vote makes sense?
Why are you technically asking others but Python to vote for you so that you can tell them a secret?

In what universe does voting Black make sense?

I am not asking anyone to vote me. But if anyone does, I'll tell Python a secret.

It's not the vote itself. It's the CONTEXT of the vote.
That "I'Ll tell Python a secret" is a joke, isn't it?

[DragonEater70]

Nope

[DragonEater70]

Also please explain how the context helps

[Black]

I think it was yeah. He didn't even get the chance to claim lol

If VIP flips town I think DE70 and Python have the worst votes on the wagon

why was DEs vote any worse than gimli's?

Gimli voted in his PoE and it felt more natural. DE70 townread VIP and was pushing Kittie but then moved to VIP anyway. Jumping on the mobile wagon felt opportunistic

[Black]

Gimli can you answer 268

[Black]

Python you wanted to generate content by jumping on wagons, didn't you? Let's do this.

VOTE: black

NOTE: DO NOT HAMMER BLACK OR YOU WILL BE POLICY LIMMED

This note feels weird. I'm at e-4...

[Black]

Dragon why do you keep trying to run yourself up?

[Gimli]

I decided I like Black this game

What prompted this thought?

IDK DE,

you're being overly sure of things

I need more Black in this game

This is cute but you'll have to wait for the weekend to be over

I skimmed your ISO and you felt natural, although IDK what to expect from scum!you. I have a feeling you'd be trying to look townier instead of just being organically evaluating stuff like you seem to be.

at this point in the game you're a top townlean for me alongside cometbright

[Cometbright]

Your next post is 1000!!!

Waheyyyy

[Cometbright]

NOTE: DO NOT HAMMER BLACK OR YOU WILL BE POLICY LIMMED

Had to check to see if Black was somehow at e-1 there lol

[Cometbright]

Ok I have read over my coffee and I have thoughts, I will share later when I have fully marinated on them to create a whole picture. that is cohesive and easy to follow.

I'm looking forward to it, I think we've got a few (three-four?) people who have said they're going to post some proper stuff tomorrow/later so I'll hold you all to it.

1) what would be the purpose between having 2 types of game play for scum or town? If your a regular player would it not make more sense to have a consistent game play to keep everyone guessing?? Just a thought. Having 2 game play types would just tip people off when you are indeed scum. no??

This stuff is rarely conscious/intentional - there's always inevitably going to be some differences with how you play just because as scum you have knowledge that a town member shouldn't have and will usually play differently because of it - the mark of a good scum player is being able to minimise how visible/obvious it is and vice versa those good with meta reading like to spot these subtle differences. Of course there's the WIFOM pitfall where a player might intentionally play unpredictably to try and disrupt this kind of meta reading so it's not a perfect science.

[Cometbright]

It's come up twice now - what's the context/meaning of something being a hero lim (hero vig?) - is this a new lingo term I'm out of the times with?

[DragonEater70]

Dragon why do you keep trying to run yourself up?

IDK, I guess I'm not anymore.
Was trying to bait some reactions with everything I did (including the vote on you). This clearly didn't do anything.

We're ok with a Gimli hero lim

Is this still relevant? I'm bored.

[DragonEater70]

This note feels weird. I'm at e-4...

I was thinking people would jump on the wagon but I forgot this is a newbie game and not a game on the theme queue where people randomly just jump on wagons for no reason.

[Cometbright]

I'll tell you a secret once someone who isn't you or VIP votes me.

Dragon I wish I knew what your game strategy for this Open is, it makes my head spin.

I think the thing is a little silly but if it gets you to explain then alright.

VOTE: DragonEater70

You're at E-2 now, can you explain this secret? And also why it required you to vote yourself and incite someone else to vote for you to do?

[Cometbright]

Was trying to bait some reactions with everything I did (including the vote on you). This clearly didn't do anything.

Oh, was this the reason/secret?

[usesPython]

It's come up twice now - what's the context/meaning of something being a hero lim (hero vig?) - is this a new lingo term I'm out of the times with?

It's when you lim/shoot a widely townread person and it's called that because everyone who makes a hero shot is a hero and will be treated as such by the rest of the community