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Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:15 am

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I'm trying to find out the reasoning to kill black and not one of the masons. And I'm trying to see how many cops we would have for balancing to make sense here
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Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:15 am

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ami, gob, hu tao certainly feels most likely at the moment with that odd night kill.
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Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:17 am

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Having our IC be a Mason doc makes it seem pretty balanced considering they could have killed them n1. But scum probably would be assuming or have reason to assume there was a doctor here and go outside it.
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Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:18 am

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if miller in titus role was actualy a universal miller than

my role has 2 false guilties and one false inno if there is a traior.

would also mean town would be to stacked for use to have more than 2 cops
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Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:18 am

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In post 2501, bob3141 wrote: ami, gob, hu tao certainly feels most likely at the moment with that odd night kill.
No shot in any world you would consider voting your inno today or tomorrow. So no reason to even suspect me. If I'm traitor I lose if both scum are eliminated correct? So from your standpoint even putting me in there makes no sense
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Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:19 am

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Also why do you not scumread Merlyn?
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Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:19 am

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In post 2495, Hu Tao wrote: Gob has to give his result.

Pisskop can you 100% confirm that JV is Mason and not just neighbors.

Also is it possible Andante softed their result?
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Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:20 am

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Hm… if Hu Tao is Mafia, they would either have to be a Traitor or you’d have to also be Mafia, Bob—there’s no other Normal mechanics where Hu Tao could be Mafia and you’d get a negative result without it being made clear as a part of your role, I’m pretty sure.
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Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:20 am

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In post 2505, Hu Tao wrote: Also why do you not scumread Merlyn?
too many pr claims with a traitor that wouls have to be you.

as there is no way scum kills black if all 4 possible clears were true.
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Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:21 am

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In post 2503, bob3141 wrote: if miller in titus role was actualy a universal miller than

my role has 2 false guilties and one false inno if there is a traior.

would also mean town would be to stacked for use to have more than 2 cops
Millers in normals only show red to a base Cop iirc
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Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:21 am

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In post 2507, AnimatedWiz wrote: Hm… if Hu Tao is Mafia, they would either have to be a Traitor or you’d have to also be Mafia, Bob—there’s no other Normal mechanics where Hu Tao could be Mafia and you’d get a negative result without it being made clear as a part of your role, I’m pretty sure.
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Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:22 am

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If all 4 of us are actually 1-Shot Cops, I think killing any of us is useless after we reveal our result—it actually helps confirm the information and fully clears the target.

I would think that would make killing either Mason higher priority, but apparently they went for the Vanilla Townie.
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Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:23 am

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There's a true PoE of 6 with three scum within.
Gob, Wiz, Bob, Merlyn, Hu Tao.

I'm not opposed to delve into the world where Bob and Hu Tao are both wolves for the sake of completion. As this is the final day if wrong
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Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:23 am

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In post 2509, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2503, bob3141 wrote: if miller in titus role was actualy a universal miller than

my role has 2 false guilties and one false inno if there is a traior.

would also mean town would be to stacked for use to have more than 2 cops
Millers in normals only show red to a base Cop iirc
you can get tracker millers ect see wiki

the issue is how it would be displayed.

from wiki below

Some moderators take the "passive guilt" concept to the point where Millers also investigate unfavorably to other roles (e.g. Gunsmith); this can be given a name like Universal Miller, although just plain "Miller" is also seen. Alternatively, specialized Millers can be created specifically for investigative roles other than Cop; for example, a Track Miller would always be seen, by a Tracker, as targeting the player that the Mafia (or whatever the "main" anti-Town faction in that game is) had attempted to kill.
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Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:23 am

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Actually that's three in a pool of 5?
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Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:24 am

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In post 2512, JacksonVirgo wrote: There's a true PoE of 6 with three scum within.
Gob, Wiz, Bob, Merlyn, Hu Tao.

I'm not opposed to delve into the world where Bob and Hu Tao are both wolves for the sake of completion. As this is the final day if wrong
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Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:24 am

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In post 2506, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2495, Hu Tao wrote: Gob has to give his result.

Pisskop can you 100% confirm that JV is Mason and not just neighbors.

Also is it possible Andante softed their result?
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Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:25 am

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In post 2513, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2509, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2503, bob3141 wrote: if miller in titus role was actualy a universal miller than

my role has 2 false guilties and one false inno if there is a traior.

would also mean town would be to stacked for use to have more than 2 cops
Millers in normals only show red to a base Cop iirc
you can get tracker millers ect see wiki

the issue is how it would be displayed.

from wiki below

Some moderators take the "passive guilt" concept to the point where Millers also investigate unfavorably to other roles (e.g. Gunsmith); this can be given a name like Universal Miller, although just plain "Miller" is also seen. Alternatively, specialized Millers can be created specifically for investigative roles other than Cop; for example, a Track Miller would always be seen, by a Tracker, as targeting the player that the Mafia (or whatever the "main" anti-Town faction in that game is) had attempted to kill.
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Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:25 am

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In post 2516, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2506, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2495, Hu Tao wrote: Gob has to give his result.

Pisskop can you 100% confirm that JV is Mason and not just neighbors.

Also is it possible Andante softed their result?
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Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:26 am

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In post 2508, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2505, Hu Tao wrote: Also why do you not scumread Merlyn?
too many pr claims with a traitor that wouls have to be you.

as there is no way scum kills black if all 4 possible clears were true.
Also why is your first thought that there is even a traitor in this game? (Unless that is confirmed somewhere and I missed it)
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Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:26 am

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In post 2511, AnimatedWiz wrote: If all 4 of us are actually 1-Shot Cops, I think killing any of us is useless after we reveal our result—it actually helps confirm the information and fully clears the target.

I would think that would make killing either Mason higher priority, but apparently they went for the Vanilla Townie.
your kind showing yourself to be scum by being so wooden.

the fact is 3 cop claims and 2 masons. means atleast one has to be scum

as there certainly isnt more than 6 town pr prob 5
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Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:27 am

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In post 2508, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2505, Hu Tao wrote: Also why do you not scumread Merlyn?
too many pr claims with a traitor that wouls have to be you.

as there is no way scum kills black if all 4 possible clears were true.
The cops are pretty much useless at this point and none are confirmed. It was between masons and black
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Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:28 am

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We probably go Merlyn today
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Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:29 am

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In post 2520, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2511, AnimatedWiz wrote: If all 4 of us are actually 1-Shot Cops, I think killing any of us is useless after we reveal our result—it actually helps confirm the information and fully clears the target.

I would think that would make killing either Mason higher priority, but apparently they went for the Vanilla Townie.
your kind showing yourself to be scum by being so wooden.

the fact is 3 cop claims and 2 masons. means atleast one has to be scum

as there certainly isnt more than 6 town pr prob 5

I’m not saying none of us are scum, since that obviously can’t be true with the math. I’m just saying that if all the town Cops are 1-Shot, it’s probably not worth it to kill them and confirm their info—would also help protect any Mafia that claim to be Cops, I think.
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