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Post Post #6850 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:24 am

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I know VCA isn't the end-all/be-all, especially self, but I still feel that questioning my placement on wagons warrants this:

Scenarios
  • I'm
    scum
    : I know that none of the 4 lims so far have been my teammates, so limming any of them works towards my win condition. Instead, I stay off all but one of them, which happens to be
    scum

  • I'm
    scum
    . I know that none of the first 3 lims have been my teammates, but the last one is. So, I don't vote any of those that work towards my win condition, but do bus late into the game.
  • I'm
    town
    . I don't know what alignment any of the wagons are, so vote where I feel scum is.
I can't make the decision for everyone else, but to me the only one that points to me playing to my wincon is the third scenario.
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Post Post #6851 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:34 am

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In post 6849, shaddowez wrote: Back from V/LA - tried keeping up, but definitely didn't catch everything. I will address the things I noticed regarding me, since those don't require a deep dive:

Lurking
- If you look at my ISO, 99% of my posts are between 0800-1700 M-F. This is a game, which I play while I'm at my computer, and take the rest of the time with my family. If I happen to have down time maybe I'll hop on, but generally I don't even get on a computer outside of that time. I made a comment early on that it seems I'm posting opposite hours of much of the game, but when I'm here I do try to engage with anyone else posting at the same time. If that's lurking, then I guess I'm a lurker.

Wagons
- D1: I was never a fan of the IAVH wagon, and felt like he was being pushed for not much content on D1. The last several votes all happened over the weekend (see my
Lurking
section).
D2: I unvoted earlier on that (Real) day in , then all
three
votes to lim Psyche happened that evening (again, after I'm off a computer).
D3: Gonna be honest, I don't remember much about this day. I know I was voting StD and reconsidered, but can't say much more about it without re-reading.
D4: CSF was not in my townlist, and based on how I read her I was willing to vote there. I'm also going to share this:
In post 5594, shaddowez wrote: ...what the fuck? JV has some 'splaining to do post game.

Alright, our pool is getting pretty small. Snivy, dave, and CSF have all had failed attempted wagons on them (I may be missing someone too). The people I'm not currently willing to entertain at all right now are RN, TL, or pisskop.
Which brings me to my next point, my unlim pool has not changed from that: pisskop, TL, and RN.

I feel like I'm missing something, but will get to it as I go through stuff again.

That helps.

I just want to get the feeling you're actually TRYING to solve the game.

Currently I DON'T have that feeling from you.
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Post Post #6852 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:36 am

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In post 2935, shaddowez wrote:
In post 2273, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1523, the worst wrote:
In post 1493, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Town

Random Nurse,
Klazam
,
Flavor Leaf
, the worst
Naerys,
Psyche
, gob
Shrek
,
Save the Dragons
, shaddowez, BBmolla,
Doctor Drew

iamveryhappy
, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, DragonEater70
bob3141
, TemporalLich, pisskop
biancospino
-- idk/null tier
furtiveglance
,
Hu Tao
,
JacksonVirgo
, Enchant
ZZZX
,
Aisa
Merlyn


Scum

I'm all caught up, AMA
It's nice to see someone else who's finding Klazam just like, very towny. Also dig the hard townread on RN.

Actually I like this list a bunch

What makes you like Naerys & shaddowez? & do you have like, a specific reason to scumread furtive?
Which part of this list do you actually like? Prior to this you said snivy was towny (listed as null here) and want to wagon me (listed as slight town here). You also aren't thrilled with either the IAVH or Hu potential wagons, listed as null and scum here. I'm sure there's more, but we'll start with that
Bringing this post back up....for posterity
It's been a while. Feel like I need to bring this back up, cleaned up (and scum/town notated) some.
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Post Post #6853 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:38 am

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In post 6851, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 6849, shaddowez wrote: Back from V/LA - tried keeping up, but definitely didn't catch everything. I will address the things I noticed regarding me, since those don't require a deep dive:

Lurking
- If you look at my ISO, 99% of my posts are between 0800-1700 M-F. This is a game, which I play while I'm at my computer, and take the rest of the time with my family. If I happen to have down time maybe I'll hop on, but generally I don't even get on a computer outside of that time. I made a comment early on that it seems I'm posting opposite hours of much of the game, but when I'm here I do try to engage with anyone else posting at the same time. If that's lurking, then I guess I'm a lurker.

Wagons
- D1: I was never a fan of the IAVH wagon, and felt like he was being pushed for not much content on D1. The last several votes all happened over the weekend (see my
Lurking
section).
D2: I unvoted earlier on that (Real) day in , then all
three
votes to lim Psyche happened that evening (again, after I'm off a computer).
D3: Gonna be honest, I don't remember much about this day. I know I was voting StD and reconsidered, but can't say much more about it without re-reading.
D4: CSF was not in my townlist, and based on how I read her I was willing to vote there. I'm also going to share this:
In post 5594, shaddowez wrote: ...what the fuck? JV has some 'splaining to do post game.

Alright, our pool is getting pretty small. Snivy, dave, and CSF have all had failed attempted wagons on them (I may be missing someone too). The people I'm not currently willing to entertain at all right now are RN, TL, or pisskop.
Which brings me to my next point, my unlim pool has not changed from that: pisskop, TL, and RN.

I feel like I'm missing something, but will get to it as I go through stuff again.

That helps.

I just want to get the feeling you're actually TRYING to solve the game.

Currently I DON'T have that feeling from you.
That's fair. I'll also admit, I've been somewhat tunneled on Snivy/the worst for a good part of the game.
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Post Post #6854 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:44 am

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Speaking of
In post 6818, the worst wrote: not even sure shaddowez' issue is lurking? his reads are just really underdeveloped for this stage of the game
I find this highly ironic from somebody that has ~90% naked votes, and I'm hard pressed to find any sort of argument for why any of the votes exist at all.
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Post Post #6855 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:41 am

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Spoiler: Day1
1.1 wrote: Not voting (23): Random Nurse,
Flavor Leaf
, pisskop,
Hu Tao
, camelCasedSnivy,
Doctor Drew
,
Save The Dragons
,
Aisa
, davesaz,
Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys,
Klazam
,
Psyche
, bob3141,
iamveryhappy
,TemporalLich,
furtiveglance
, Enchant, the worst,
BBmolla
, gob,
JacksonVirgo
, shaddowez
1.2 wrote:
Flavor Leaf
(5):
BBmolla
,
Klazam
,
Flavor Leaf
, Enchant,
Hu Tao

furtiveglance
(3):
Psyche
, pisskop, the worst
Psyche
(2): shaddowez, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever
(1): camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Naerys
Aisa
(1): davesaz
Hu Tao
(1):
Aisa

Enchant (1):
Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (1):
iamveryhappy

Klazam
(1): gob
Not voting (6): Random Nurse,
Doctor Drew
,
Cat Scratch Fever
, bob3141,
furtiveglance
,
JacksonVirgo
1.3 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(4): gob,
furtiveglance
,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf

Hu Tao
(3):
Aisa
,
Klazam
, bob3141
Flavor Leaf
(3):
Hu Tao
, TemporalLich,
iamveryhappy

furtiveglance
(2):
Psyche
, pisskop
Enchant (2):
Save The Dragons
, Naerys
BBmolla
(2): shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Enchant
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
TemporalLich (1):
BBmolla

pisskop (1): the worst

Not voting (3): Random Nurse,
Cat Scratch Fever
,
Doctor Drew
1.4 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(5): gob,
furtiveglance
,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich
Hu Tao
(3):
Aisa
,
Klazam
, bob3141
Flavor Leaf
(2):
Hu Tao
,
iamveryhappy

furtiveglance
(2):
Psyche
, pisskop
Enchant (2):
Save The Dragons
, Naerys
BBmolla
(2): shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Enchant
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
TemporalLich (1):
BBmolla

pisskop (1): the worst

Not voting (3): Random Nurse,
Cat Scratch Fever
,
Doctor Drew
1.5 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(7): gob,
furtiveglance
,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich, CamelCasedSnivy, pisskop
Hu Tao
(3):
Aisa
,
Klazam
, bob3141
Flavor Leaf
(2):
Hu Tao
,
iamveryhappy

Enchant (2):
Save The Dragons
, Naerys
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
furtiveglance
(1):
Psyche

gob (1): Enchant
TemporalLich (1):
BBmolla

pisskop (1): the worst

Not voting (3): Random Nurse,
Cat Scratch Fever
,
Doctor Drew
1.6 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(6): gob,
furtiveglance
,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich, pisskop
Hu Tao
(3):
Aisa
,
Klazam
, bob3141
Enchant (3):
Save The Dragons
, Naerys,
Cat Scratch Fever

camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
shaddowez (2): camelCasedSnivy, the worst
gob (1): Enchant
TemporalLich (1):
BBmolla

JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew

BBmolla
(1):
Psyche

Flavor Leaf
(1):
Hu Tao


Not voting (1): Random Nurse
1.7 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(6): gob,
furtiveglance
,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich, pisskop
Enchant (5):
Save The Dragons
, Naerys,
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
Hu Tao

Hu Tao
(3):
Aisa
,
Klazam
, bob3141
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
shaddowez (1): camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Enchant
TemporalLich (1):
BBmolla

JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew

BBmolla
(1):
Psyche


Not voting (1): Random Nurse
1.8 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(4): gob,
JacksonVirgo
,
Flavor Leaf
, pisskop
Enchant (3): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa

Hu Tao
(3): bob3141,
Save The Dragons
,
Cat Scratch Fever

camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla
(2):
Psyche
, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever
(2):
Hu Tao
,
furtiveglance

shaddowez (1): camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Enchant
TemporalLich (1):
BBmolla

JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew


Not voting (2): Random Nurse,
Klazam
1.9 wrote: Enchant (6): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
,
Flavor Leaf
,
Save The Dragons
, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever
(4):
Hu Tao
,
furtiveglance
, pisskop,
BBmolla

iamveryhappy
(2): gob,
JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao
(2): bob3141,
Cat Scratch Fever

camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla
(2):
Psyche
, camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Enchant
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew


Not voting (2): Random Nurse,
Klazam
1.10 wrote: Enchant (7): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
,
Flavor Leaf
,
Save The Dragons
, TemporalLich,
BBmolla

Cat Scratch Fever
(3):
Hu Tao
,
furtiveglance
, pisskop
iamveryhappy
(2): gob,
JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao
(2): bob3141,
Cat Scratch Fever

camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla
(2):
Psyche
, camelCasedSnivy
gob (1): Enchant
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew


Not voting (2): Random Nurse,
Klazam
1.11 wrote: Enchant (9): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich,
BBmolla
, Enchant, Random Nurse,
Cat Scratch Fever

Cat Scratch Fever
(3):
Hu Tao
,
furtiveglance
, pisskop
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla
(2):
Psyche
, camelCasedSnivy
iamveryhappy
(1): gob
Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew

TemporalLich (1):
Klazam

Random Nurse (1):
Save The Dragons


Not voting (1):
JacksonVirgo
1.12 wrote: Enchant (7): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
,
Flavor Leaf
, TemporalLich,
BBmolla
, Random Nurse
Cat Scratch Fever
(5):
Hu Tao
,
furtiveglance
, pisskop, gob,
Klazam

camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla
(2):
Psyche
, camelCasedSnivy
Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew

Random Nurse (1):
Save The Dragons

Psyche
(1):
JacksonVirgo

iamveryhappy
(1):
Cat Scratch Fever


Not voting (1): Enchant
1.13 wrote: Enchant (7): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
,
Flavor Leaf
,
BBmolla
, Random Nurse, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever
(5):
Hu Tao
,
furtiveglance
, pisskop, gob,
Klazam

BBmolla
(2):
Psyche
, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
Psyche
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):
Doctor Drew

Random Nurse (1):
Save The Dragons

iamveryhappy
(1):
Cat Scratch Fever

the worst (1): shaddowez

Not voting (1): Enchant
1.14 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(9 [E-3]):
Cat Scratch Fever
,
Psyche
, TemporalLich, Enchant,
furtiveglance
,
Flavor Leaf
,
Save The Dragons
,
Hu Tao
,
BBmolla

Enchant (5): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
, Random Nurse,
Doctor Drew

Cat Scratch Fever
(3): pisskop, gob,
Klazam

Psyche
(2):
JacksonVirgo
, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):
1.15 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(6):
Cat Scratch Fever
, TemporalLich, Enchant,
furtiveglance
,
Save The Dragons
,
Hu Tao

Enchant (5): Naerys, the worst,
Aisa
, Random Nurse,
Doctor Drew

Cat Scratch Fever
(3): pisskop, gob,
Klazam

BBmolla
(3):
Psyche
,
Flavor Leaf
,
BBmolla

Psyche
(2):
JacksonVirgo
, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):
1.16 wrote:
iamveryhappy
(10):
Cat Scratch Fever
, TemporalLich, Enchant,
furtiveglance
,
Save The Dragons
,
Aisa
,
BBmolla
, davesaz,
Flavor Leaf
, camelCasedSnivy
Enchant (5): Naerys, the worst, Random Nurse,
Doctor Drew
, pisskop
Cat Scratch Fever
(3): gob,
Klazam
,
Hu Tao

BBmolla
(1):
Psyche

Psyche
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):
1.17 fin wrote:
iamveryhappy
(12 [HAMMERED]):
Cat Scratch Fever
, TemporalLich, Enchant,
furtiveglance
,
Save The Dragons
,
Aisa
,
BBmolla
, davesaz,
Flavor Leaf
, camelCasedSnivy,
Doctor Drew
, Naerys
Enchant (3): the worst, Random Nurse, pisskop
Cat Scratch Fever
(3): gob,
Klazam
,
Hu Tao

BBmolla
(1):
Psyche

Psyche
(1):
JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao
(1): bob3141
JacksonVirgo
(1):
iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #6856 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:41 am

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Spoiler: Day2
2.0 wrote:
Not voting (20):
Flavor Leaf
, pisskop,
Hu Tao
, camelCasedSnivy,
Save The Dragons
,
Aisa
, davesaz,
Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys,
Psyche
, bob3141, TemporalLich,
furtiveglance
, Enchant, the worst,
BBmolla
, gob,
JacksonVirgo
, shaddowez
2.1 wrote: bob3131 (2):
Save The Dragons
, the worst
the worst (2): shaddowez, gob

Not voting (16):
Flavor Leaf
, pisskop,
Hu Tao
, camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
, davesaz,
Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys,
Psyche
, bob3141, TemporalLich,
furtiveglance
, Enchant,
BBmolla
,
JacksonVirgo
2.2 wrote: the worst (3): shaddowez, gob, TemporalLich
Hu Tao
(3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa

bob3131 (2):
Save The Dragons
, the worst
BBmolla
(1):
Psyche

camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (10):
Flavor Leaf
, pisskop,
Hu Tao
, davesaz, Naerys,
furtiveglance
, Enchant,
BBmolla
,
JacksonVirgo
, Random Nurse
2.3 wrote:
Hu Tao
(9 [E-2]):
Cat Scratch Fever
, camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
,
Save The Dragons
,
BBmolla
, the worst,
Flavor Leaf
,
Hu Tao
, TemporalLich
the worst (2): shaddowez, gob
Psyche
(2): Random Nurse, pisskop
BBmolla
(1):
Psyche

camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (5): davesaz, Naerys,
furtiveglance
, Enchant,
JacksonVirgo
2.4 wrote:
Hu Tao
(9 [E-2]):
Cat Scratch Fever
, camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
,
Save The Dragons
,
BBmolla
, the worst,
Flavor Leaf
,
Hu Tao
, TemporalLich
Psyche
(5): Random Nurse, pisskop,
JacksonVirgo
,
furtiveglance
, Naerys
the worst (2): shaddowez, gob
BBmolla
(1):
Psyche

camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (2): davesaz, Enchant
2.5 wrote:
Hu Tao
(8 [E-3]):
Cat Scratch Fever
, camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
,
Save The Dragons
,
BBmolla
, the worst,
Flavor Leaf
,
Hu Tao

Psyche
(8 [E-3]): Random Nurse, pisskop,
JacksonVirgo
,
furtiveglance
, Naerys, TemporalLich, bob3141, davesaz
the worst (2): shaddowez, gob
BBmolla
(1):
Psyche


Not voting (1): Enchant
2.6 wrote:
Hu Tao
(8 [E-3]):
Cat Scratch Fever
, camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
,
Save The Dragons
,
BBmolla
, the worst,
Flavor Leaf
,
Hu Tao

Psyche
(8 [E-3]): Random Nurse, pisskop,
JacksonVirgo
,
furtiveglance
, Naerys, TemporalLich, bob3141, davesaz
the worst (1): gob
BBmolla
(1):
Psyche


Not voting (2): Enchant, shaddowez
2.7 wrote:
Psyche
(11 [ELIMINATED]): Random Nurse, pisskop,
JacksonVirgo
,
furtiveglance
, Naerys, TemporalLich, bob3141, davesaz,
Hu Tao
, camelCasedSnivy,
Save The Dragons

Hu Tao
(6):
Cat Scratch Fever
,
Aisa
,
BBmolla
, the worst,
Flavor Leaf
,
Psyche

the worst (1): gob

Not voting (2): Enchant, shaddowez
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #6857 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:42 am

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Spoiler: Day3
3.1 wrote: Random Nurse (2):
BBmolla
, TemporalLich

Not voting (15): pisskop, camelCasedSnivy,
Save The Dragons
,
Aisa
, davesaz,
Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys, bob3141,
furtiveglance
, Enchant, the worst, gob,
JacksonVirgo
, shaddowez, Random Nurse
3.2 wrote: Random Nurse (3):
BBmolla
, TemporalLich,
JacksonVirgo

TemporalLich (2): Random Nurse, camelCasedSnivy
Naerys (1):
Aisa

BBmolla
(1): Naerys

Not voting (10): pisskop,
Save The Dragons
, davesaz,
Cat Scratch Fever
, bob3141,
furtiveglance
, Enchant, the worst, gob, shaddowez
3.3 wrote: Random Nurse (2): TemporalLich,
JacksonVirgo

TemporalLich (2): Random Nurse, camelCasedSnivy
Naerys (1):
Aisa

BBmolla
(1): Naerys
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
davesaz (1):
BBmolla

Save The Dragons
(1):
Cat Scratch Fever


Not voting (8): pisskop,
Save The Dragons
, davesaz,
furtiveglance
, Enchant, the worst, gob, shaddowez
3.4 wrote:
Cat Scratch Fever
(4):
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, pisskop,
Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (2):
JacksonVirgo
, davesaz
TemporalLich (2): Random Nurse, camelCasedSnivy
Naerys (1):
Aisa

BBmolla
(1): Naerys
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
davesaz (1):
BBmolla

Save The Dragons
(1):
Cat Scratch Fever


Not voting (4): Enchant, the worst, gob, shaddowez
3.5 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(5):
Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys,
Aisa
, shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy
Cat Scratch Fever
(4):
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, pisskop,
Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (2):
JacksonVirgo
, davesaz
TemporalLich (1): Random Nurse
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
davesaz (1):
BBmolla


Not voting (3): Enchant, the worst, gob
3.6 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(6):
Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys,
Aisa
, shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy, Random Nurse
Cat Scratch Fever
(4):
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, pisskop,
Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (2):
JacksonVirgo
, davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
davesaz (1):
BBmolla

JacksonVirgo
(1): Enchant

Not voting (2): the worst, gob
3.7 wrote:
Save The Dragons
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Cat Scratch Fever
, Naerys,
Aisa
, shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy, Random Nurse, Enchant
Cat Scratch Fever
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furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, pisskop,
Save The Dragons
, gob
Random Nurse (2):
JacksonVirgo
, davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
davesaz (1):
BBmolla


Not voting (1): the worst
3.8 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(6): Naerys,
Aisa
, shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy, Random Nurse, Enchant
Cat Scratch Fever
(5):
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, pisskop,
Save The Dragons
, gob
Random Nurse (2):
JacksonVirgo
, davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
davesaz (1):
BBmolla


Not voting (2): the worst,
Cat Scratch Fever
3.9 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(6): Naerys, shaddowez, Random Nurse, Enchant, pisskop,
BBmolla

davesaz (3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever
(2):
furtiveglance
, gob
Enchant (1):
Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (1): davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (3): camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
,
JacksonVirgo
3.10 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(6): Naerys, shaddowez, Random Nurse, Enchant, pisskop,
BBmolla

davesaz (3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever
(2):
furtiveglance
, gob
Enchant (1):
Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (1): davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (3): camelCasedSnivy,
Aisa
,
JacksonVirgo
3.11 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(8 [E-1]): Naerys, shaddowez, Random Nurse, Enchant, pisskop,
BBmolla
TemporalLich, camelCasedSnivy
davesaz (3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
Save The Dragons

Cat Scratch Fever
(2):
furtiveglance
, gob
Random Nurse (1): davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
Naerys (1):
JacksonVirgo


Not voting (1):
Aisa
3.12 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(8 [E-1]): Naerys, shaddowez, Random Nurse, Enchant, pisskop,
BBmolla
, TemporalLich, camelCasedSnivy
davesaz (4):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
Save The Dragons
,
furtiveglance

Cat Scratch Fever
(1): gob
Random Nurse (1): davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
Naerys (1):
JacksonVirgo


Not voting (1):
Aisa
3.13 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(7 [E-2]): Naerys, shaddowez, Random Nurse, pisskop,
BBmolla
, TemporalLich, camelCasedSnivy
davesaz (5):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
Save The Dragons
,
furtiveglance
,
Aisa

Cat Scratch Fever
(1): gob
Random Nurse (1): davesaz
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141
Naerys (1):
JacksonVirgo


Not voting (1): Enchant
3.14 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(6): Random Nurse, pisskop, TemporalLich, camelCasedSnivy, gob,
BBmolla

camelCasedSnivy (4): shaddowez,
Save The Dragons
,
Aisa
, davesaz
davesaz (3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
furtiveglance

Naerys (1):
JacksonVirgo

gob (1): Naerys

Not voting (2): Enchant, bob3141
3.15 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(6): Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy, gob, Enchant, Naerys
davesaz (5):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
furtiveglance
,
BBmolla
, TemporalLich
camelCasedSnivy (3): shaddowez,
Save The Dragons
, davesaz
Naerys (2):
JacksonVirgo
, bob3141
gob (1):
Aisa


Not voting (0):
3.16 wrote:
Save The Dragons
(8 [E-1]): Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy, Enchant, Naerys,
Aisa
,
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich
davesaz (3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
BBmolla

camelCasedSnivy (3): shaddowez,
Save The Dragons
, davesaz
Naerys (2):
JacksonVirgo
, bob3141

Not voting (1): gob
3.17 fin wrote:
Save The Dragons
(8): Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy, Enchant, Naerys,
Aisa
,
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, bob3141
davesaz (3):
Cat Scratch Fever
, the worst,
BBmolla

camelCasedSnivy (3): shaddowez,
Save The Dragons
, davesaz
Naerys (2):
JacksonVirgo


Not voting (1): gob
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Post Post #6858 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:42 am

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Spoiler: Day4
4.2 wrote:
Cat Scratch Fever
(3) bob3141,
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich
furtiveglance
(2): shaddowez, Enchant
Enchant (1):
Cat Scratch Fever

BBmolla
(1): pisskop
TemporalLich (1): camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): Naerys

Not voting (5): Random Nurse, davesaz, the worst,
BBmolla
, gob
4.3 wrote:
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(4) bob3141,
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, Naerys
davesaz (2): gob, Enchant
furtiveglance
(1): shaddowez
Enchant (1):
Cat Scratch Fever

BBmolla
(1): pisskop
TemporalLich (1): camelCasedSnivy

Not voting (4): Random Nurse, davesaz, the worst,
BBmolla
4.4 wrote:
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(6) bob3141,
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, Naerys, shaddowez, pisskop
Enchant (4):
Cat Scratch Fever
, davesaz, the worst, camelCasedSnivy
davesaz (3): gob, Enchant,
BBmolla


Not voting (1): Random Nurse
4.5 wrote:
Cat Scratch Fever
(7 [E-1]) bob3141,
furtiveglance
, TemporalLich, Naerys, shaddowez, pisskop, Random Nurse
davesaz (5): gob, Enchant,
BBmolla
, the worst,
Cat Scratch Fever

Enchant (2): davesaz, camelCasedSnivy

Not voting (0):
4.6 wrote:
Cat Scratch Fever
(6) bob3141,
furtiveglance
, shaddowez, pisskop, Random Nurse,
BBmolla

davesaz (3): gob, Enchant,
Cat Scratch Fever

Enchant (2): davesaz, camelCasedSnivy
BBmolla
(2): Naerys, TemporalLich
Naerys (1): the worst

Not voting (0):
4.7 wrote:
BBmolla
(6 [E-2]): Naerys, TemporalLich, pisskop, davesaz,
BBmolla
, camelCasedSnivy
Cat Scratch Fever
(4): bob3141,
furtiveglance
, shaddowez, Random Nurse
davesaz (3): gob, Enchant,
Cat Scratch Fever

Naerys (1): the worst

Not voting (0):
4.8 wrote:
Cat Scratch Fever
(6 [E-2]): bob3141,
furtiveglance
, shaddowez, Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy
davesaz (5): gob, Enchant,
Cat Scratch Fever
,
BBmolla
, the worst
BBmolla
(3): Naerys, TemporalLich, davesaz

Not voting (0):
4.fin wrote:
Cat Scratch Fever
(8 [HAMMERED]): bob3141,
furtiveglance
, shaddowez, Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, TemporalLich
davesaz (5): gob, Enchant,
Cat Scratch Fever
,
BBmolla
, the worst
BBmolla
(1): Naerys

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Post Post #6859 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:42 am

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Aight, I think theyre error free, lmk
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Post Post #6860 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:43 am

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In post 6742, davesaz wrote: VOTE: gob
Outside of , can you point to some reasons for this vote? You don't really seem to be pushing a strong case considering you're the only one on the wagon, and I don't see much in the way of reasons. makes it feel like a policy lim (voting since he's not a TR, vs voting because he's a SR), and I'm not sure that's wise at this point in the game.
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Post Post #6861 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:46 am

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A cursory glance at the day one hammer wagon says that red scum is in one of the uncolored names.

And day 2 as well
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Post Post #6862 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:50 am

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Dave and TL are the common factors there.

The Hu wagon on D2 is absent of red scum.

CCSnivy is a possible blue buddy going off of the day3 CSF wagoning
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Post Post #6863 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:51 am

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yeah. I could see Snivy and Dave as blue and red respectively
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Post Post #6864 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:53 am

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VOTE: CCS
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Post Post #6865 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:58 am

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Okay, I think we need to completely flip and vote someone who hasn't been viewed as scummy to this point.
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Post Post #6866 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:58 am

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Why and who
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Post Post #6867 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:04 am

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In post 6850, shaddowez wrote: I know VCA isn't the end-all/be-all, especially self, but I still feel that questioning my placement on wagons warrants this:

Scenarios
  • I'm
    scum
    : I know that none of the 4 lims so far have been my teammates, so limming any of them works towards my win condition. Instead, I stay off all but one of them, which happens to be
    scum
You could have stayed off all of them because you knew they would flip town. Some scum do this unconsciously too.
In post 6850, shaddowez wrote: [*]I'm
scum
. I know that none of the first 3 lims have been my teammates, but the last one is. So, I don't vote any of those that work towards my win condition, but do bus late into the game.
Same as before. You probably aren't teaming with CSF though, since you were on their wagon early and weren't particularly looking for attention/town points for it.
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. I don't know what alignment any of the wagons are, so vote where I feel scum is.
[/list]

I can't make the decision for everyone else, but to me the only one that points to me playing to my wincon is the third scenario.
I find it really weird you did VCA for yourself in the first place, but idk its whatever fine.

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Post Post #6868 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:06 am

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In post 6866, pisskop wrote: Why and who
I changed my mind actually. I got scared because of the resistance. If we don't vote off Dave today I think we lose though.
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Post Post #6869 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:11 am

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In post 6867, gob wrote: Are you done with V/LA and would you consider voting davesaz today or no?
Yes and still reviewing, but not against it atm. Also seriously looking at Enchant - knowing the flips now, reviewing ZZZX's posts from D1 look a whole lot different.
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Post Post #6870 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:27 am

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I just did this with the T3 iso so I may have missed a quick vote unvote but I think that's more accurate anyway.

Blue Mafia

CatScratchFever: Enchant(ZZZX)->
Hu Tao
->
iamveryhappy
|
Hu Tao
||
StD
-> No Vote -> davesaz || Enchant -> davesaz

Red Mafia

Klazam:
Flavor Leaf
->
Hu Tao
-> No Vote ->
CSF



Okay, I actually can see why people think Enchant is scummy. I think this looks a lot like mafia distancing from CSF.
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Post Post #6871 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:31 am

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In post 6852, shaddowez wrote:
In post 1493, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Town

Random Nurse,
Klazam
,
Flavor Leaf
, the worst
Naerys,
Psyche
, gob
Shrek
,
Save the Dragons
, shaddowez,
BBmolla
,
Doctor Drew

iamveryhappy
, camelCasedSnivy, davesaz, DragonEater70
bob3141
, TemporalLich, pisskop
biancospino
-- idk/null tier
furtiveglance
,
Hu Tao
,
JacksonVirgo
, Enchant
ZZZX
,
Aisa
Merlyn


Scum

I'm all caught up, AMA

It's been a while. Feel like I need to bring this back up, cleaned up (and scum/town notated) some.
I missed BBmolla in the previous version. My guess is CSF has a buddy in each of the two middle tiers.
In post 6855, pisskop wrote: iamveryhappy (12 [HAMMERED]): Cat Scratch Fever, TemporalLich, Enchant, furtiveglance, Save The Dragons, Aisa, BBmolla, davesaz, Flavor Leaf, camelCasedSnivy, Doctor Drew, Naerys
In post 6856, pisskop wrote: Psyche (11 [ELIMINATED]): Random Nurse, pisskop, JacksonVirgo, furtiveglance, Naerys, TemporalLich, bob3141, davesaz, Hu Tao, camelCasedSnivy, Save The Dragons
In post 6858, pisskop wrote: BBmolla (6 [E-2]): Naerys, TemporalLich, pisskop, davesaz, BBmolla, camelCasedSnivy
Interestingly, the only 3 wagons Naerys and dave have been on together (at least during VCs) were the three listed above. There's also a strong SR of dave from Naerys D1 but she never votes him, then she flip flops to TR, then goes back to a SR where she finally votes, and then unvotes him.

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Post Post #6872 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:40 am

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In post 6211, gob wrote: bbmolla and dave is prob maf v maf
interesting.

Okay, I think the teams are

Naerys + Dave
Enchant + bbmolla

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@davesaz
@Enchant
@bbmolla
@naerys
@pisskop

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Post Post #6873 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:48 am

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In post 6872, gob wrote: Enchant + bbmolla
I don't think this is possible.

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Post Post #6874 (ISO) » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:52 am

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That's a very....strange.....list of people to ask about your scumteams also - you're asking the 4 people you're listing if they think they're scum and then me and pisskop, while completely ignoring at least 3 other players....why those specific ats?
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