Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE: not really feeling it anymore? i guess? I like alisae's posts since voting them

[Save The Dragons]

andres is probably town yes good good
snivy moving vote to andre's slot is bad

why is andres town

[Save The Dragons]

std had the nerve to say that I am "phoning it in"

because it looked like you were

[Prism]

I spent some time thinking in the late hours. At first, I thought Alisae's Shirou, Dragons, and Prism spitball was a random and significant shift, and definitely wondered if e was "phoning it in". I realized that it wasn't much of a shift at all: e scumread the first two, and I was the only addition.

This makes some sense. I am the type of scum player to shut you down completely by force as I did when Alisae was 1v1ing Shirou earlier, only to have me suddenly townread him. The Dragons connection is more nebulous, but it would explain how the gambit worked, and why my reasoning was uncharacteristic.

I'm not really sure how to feel. I might make a single lodestar post on Camel, sit on that vote through my conference/travel, and see what happens. My level of confidence in that read is high.

P-Edit: lol

[Save The Dragons]

I think there's some distinct camps here looking for different things and then there's STD trying to appeal to all of them to some degree

bullshit

[Titus]

Can someone do a vc? Driving.

[Save The Dragons]

STD calling andres scum is pretty out there actually now we're on that topic

i like how people are still getting on me for being a non-presence and yet everyone's like "andres is so town guys"

also how do I appeal to everyone in your last post and put andres in the bottom as a pretty out there take in the next post? that's not consistent

[Ydrasse]

andres is probably town yes good good
snivy moving vote to andre's slot is bad

why is andres town

i liked his interaction with me initially and it wasn’t really what i expect a wolf andres to do where he could probably double down and push further, he felt more… curious? i guess, like he was actively trying to get information rather than get a result

[Prism]

Originally I described the jjh post as "abjectly horrible". This strong description got downgraded because not only did I find the Dragons posts [about no one defending Alisae] plausible, I believed Dragons had a strong presumption that scum would defend partners that would be evident across many years of games. Quickly searching "defending", "defense", and "defend" across every game he has ever played, it is not clear this belief is true. That absence may be significant.

Back to sleep.

I also find it hilarious that camel gets townread for saying "person who votes me MUST be mafia deflecting off my weak scumread" meanwhile me opposing jjh's thesis, formulating a meta hypothesis on Dragons of my own to counter, testing it against every game he has ever played, and adjusting my read as dictated by the results is considered null activity.

When it was 5a and I woke up to get water.

[Titus]

Prism how do your current thoughts on Alisae work with your wagon theory

[Save The Dragons]

andres is probably town yes good good
snivy moving vote to andre's slot is bad

why is andres town

i liked his interaction with me initially and it wasn’t really what i expect a wolf andres to do where he could probably double down and push further, he felt more… curious? i guess, like he was actively trying to get information rather than get a result

i'll take another look

[Save The Dragons]

I think the mechanics make it important to try and force interactions and opinions regarding all players, so I’ll need to be more active than normal here. So I’ll do my best.

[Prism]

I don't have a wagon theory. I don't do preflips at all.

[Titus]

Andresvmb is the first on Ydrasse. That's why he's lean town.

[Ydrasse]

I think the mechanics make it important to try and force interactions and opinions regarding all players, so I’ll need to be more active than normal here. So I’ll do my best.

yeah this is a bit of a meme lol

[Save The Dragons]

i think a quick skim of andres's iso leaves me more null than town

[Ydrasse]

why did you have andres so low?

[T3]

Titus is fine. She feels different to Datisi's University where she was scum.

[Save The Dragons]

because he didn't really post much and he discounts his alisae read here:

If you start from the assumption that Alisae is a solid Town player that has shown moments of high competence, AND that they like to get their way (not unlike how I like to play, actually, but I don’t have the concentration to be as aggressive as I used to be), then you’ll start noticing that Alisae (they admit to this too) isn’t trying too hard to really establish a strong presence. It’s just an early feeling - it could just go away as the game rolls on, but I felt I needed to say it.

it almost looks partnered with alisae, whom i thought was scum. an early scum read on them to distance but quickly changing his tune and saying it could go away potentially discredits his own read

[Save The Dragons]

have work now will vote later

[Titus]

Who was complaining about Alisae counterwagons then? I remember someone doing that.

[Ydrasse]

because he didn't really post much and he discounts his alisae read here:

If you start from the assumption that Alisae is a solid Town player that has shown moments of high competence, AND that they like to get their way (not unlike how I like to play, actually, but I don’t have the concentration to be as aggressive as I used to be), then you’ll start noticing that Alisae (they admit to this too) isn’t trying too hard to really establish a strong presence. It’s just an early feeling - it could just go away as the game rolls on, but I felt I needed to say it.

it almost looks partnered with alisae, whom i thought was scum. an early scum read on them to distance but quickly changing his tune and saying it could go away potentially discredits his own read

i think that’s reasonable
in the absence of more andresposting though i don’t think i can lean on it more as a reason to scumread though because everything else was fine

[Shirou]

I don't care either way but I just want to make it clear that @StD if you don't vote Ali, I'm voting you

I want to watch either "Mr.muStarTD" or "Alisae in Scumland" today

all the other movies sound kinda boring compared to those two

[Prism]

Idea: Voting the player who has not towntold or given a nuanced take across the entire game, made up a bullshit push on T3 that was debunked by in 30 seconds by hitting "ISO", and who slipped and admitted that his only reason for pushing me made zero sense because he was obsessed with trying to give a witty one-liner and totally forgot the context he was stealing it from.

[Shirou]

Who was complaining about Alisae counterwagons then? I remember someone doing that.

Me.

This was last night, it looks kinda bad you don't remember even that Titus...