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[heipizhu4]

My conclustion: Probably ccs + Hu tao is scum
An essay is coming on the way

[DragonEater70]

VC 1.09

Votecount 1.09

heipizhu4 (6):

Hu Tao, Titus, Naerys, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, camelCasedSnivy

[E-2]

camelCasedSnivy (3):

SmileyDude1, Celebloki, pisskop

Naerys (1):

Dannflor

Not Voting (5):

TheHoldSteady, Random Nurse, x formerly twitter, heipizhu4, Flavor Leaf

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-10-22 15:58:59).

Mod Notes:

• To clarify, x formerly twitter's vote put heipizhu4 at E-1 and was therefore not a hammer.
  
• Previous votecounts have been missing a vote by Celebloki. This is now amended for this VC, and
  will shortly be
  was also corrected in previous VCs.
  
• Here's the Combined Mod ISO.

[x formerly twitter]

actually we see merit in thinning out the neighborhood

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

still looking forward to that essay tho

[heipizhu4]

Rushing an essay isn't fun, let's go:
Basically, the public info for us now is the hood, so we can start with an ISO of the hood. Since idk what was going on in the hood, (eg, who initiate the push), I can only guess. It surprises me that the hood was voting for each other, and besides that, the hood only got voted by (excluding page 1 vote):
ccs: bob3141(p2 rvs), Blackstar (111), Gamma (114)

And when they vote outside the hood:
ccs: Hu Tao (92), THS(204), me (332)
FL: me (158)
Dann: narrey (259)

P-edit: Nice, was't hammered :)

Emmm, I think I'll change my mind a bit, probably it wasn't ccs + hu tao.... Could it be ccs + smiley?

[heipizhu4]

@the hood
Just curious, have you discussed in your hood to push someone together? If so, why similey hasn't changed his vote/push at all besides a vote on ccs?

[x formerly twitter]

actually actually

VOTE: SmileyDude1

feels better.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: smileydude1

[heipizhu4]

(Oops, it's 1:37 am in my timezone now, I need to go to sleep

NOW

, so expect more from me several hours later)

[x formerly twitter]

(Oops, it's 1:37 am in my timezone now, I need to go to sleep

NOW

, so expect more from me several hours later)

sleep well. still uncertain on you but if you're town and around and sharing thoughts you should be okay we feel

[Gamma Emerald]

Rushing an essay isn't fun, let's go:
Basically, the public info for us now is the hood, so we can start with an ISO of the hood. Since idk what was going on in the hood, (eg, who initiate the push), I can only guess. It surprises me that the hood was voting for each other, and besides that, the hood only got voted by (excluding page 1 vote):
ccs: bob3141(p2 rvs), Blackstar (111), Gamma (114)

And when they vote outside the hood:
ccs: Hu Tao (92), THS(204), me (332)
FL: me (158)
Dann: narrey (259)

P-edit: Nice, was't hammered

Emmm, I think I'll change my mind a bit, probably it wasn't ccs + hu tao.... Could it be ccs + smiley?

Hmmm what changes your mind?

[SmileyDude1]

@the hood
Just curious, have you discussed in your hood to push someone together? If so, why smiley hasn't changed his vote/push at all besides a vote on ccs?

Not really. The closest we got was Snivy saying it'd be funny if we bloc-voted together which didn't go anywhere in the hood.

I haven't changed my vote due to me getting the most scum pings from Snivy so far, both in isolation and in light of Flavor's theory that you slipped knowing about the comp of the hood.

[SmileyDude1]

Rushing an essay isn't fun, let's go:
Basically, the public info for us now is the hood, so we can start with an ISO of the hood. Since idk what was going on in the hood, (eg, who initiate the push), I can only guess. It surprises me that the hood was voting for each other, and besides that, the hood only got voted by (excluding page 1 vote):
ccs: bob3141(p2 rvs), Blackstar (111), Gamma (114)

And when they vote outside the hood:
ccs: Hu Tao (92), THS(204), me (332)
FL: me (158)
Dann: narrey (259)

P-edit: Nice, was't hammered

Emmm, I think I'll change my mind a bit, probably it wasn't ccs + hu tao.... Could it be ccs + smiley?

I mean if I was scum with Snivy, don't you think i'd pivot off of them towards you at some point while your wagon was building, especially given you were within hammer range with myself off wagon at one point?

[SmileyDude1]

actually actually

VOTE: SmileyDude1

feels better.

What makes me a better choice than Snivy for you?

[SmileyDude1]

Lean Town

- Gamma, Celeb

Null Town

- Flavor, Dann, Hold, Pisskop
Null- Hu Tao, Titus, STD, Twitter

Null Scum

- Naerys, Nurse, Heipzhu

Lean Scum

- Snivy

This is about where i'm at right now.

[x formerly twitter]

actually actually

VOTE: SmileyDude1

feels better.

What makes me a better choice than Snivy for you?

why do you think Dannflor voted for you?

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm down to just end day on Heipz and avoid any more info coming into the day. They're high scum equity, and worst case scenario, they flip Vanilla, and we go to day 2 without any other claims.

[Titus]

I'm in agreement with Flavor Leaf. Normally, I am all for counterwagons but Heip probably slipped.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Heipz

if it flips town, ill just blame Hu Tao.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Heipz

if it flips town, ill just blame Hu Tao.

Kidding

[x formerly twitter]

I'm in agreement with Flavor Leaf. Normally, I am all for counterwagons but Heip probably slipped.

the way we see it something like that might come from town by chance and just by looking at the odds it would be a really obvious thing to consciously type out on day one for scum. if it's true great but generally people don't make such easy and obvious mistakes.

there's four people in a hood. letting heipizhu talk doesn't seem a bad idea to me. no way all four people in the hood are town. our preference is on snivy and smiley. we don't have a solid read on either of them but starting to pare down the hood now instead of in a panic days from now seems like a good idea.

[Flavor Leaf]

no way all four people in the hood are town.

this is just neighbor WIFOM, if Heipz is scum, then yeah, i would say there is always scum in the hood.

Defending Heipz + pushing no way all four in hood are town isn't a good look.

[Flavor Leaf]

everyone gets obsessed with neighbors for setup reasons, but you have to just read neighbors like they arent in a neighborhood because on a setup level Neighborhoods are there to WIFOM you.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: X formerly

[x formerly twitter]

no way all four people in the hood are town.

this is just neighbor WIFOM, if Heipz is scum, then yeah, i would say there is always scum in the hood.

Defending Heipz + pushing no way all four in hood are town isn't a good look.

we're thinking ahead and voting in the hood now compared to later is where we stand. the wine of the day is common sense.

[x formerly twitter]

everyone gets obsessed with neighbors for setup reasons, but you have to just read neighbors like they arent in a neighborhood because on a setup level Neighborhoods are there to WIFOM you.

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