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[TheHoldSteady]

I wanted to SR Gamma if Heip flips town for jumping from Snivy to Help, but the progression seems reasonable

[SmileyDude1]

actually actually

VOTE: SmileyDude1

feels better.

What makes me a better choice than Snivy for you?

why do you think Dannflor voted for you?

If I had to guess it'd be a mix of to pressure me and a reversion back to their earlier suspicion on me in their 70

you don't think snivy and dann or dann and heip could be aligned then?

I don't think there's anything that would make me rule out either of those combinations. Though I don't think Dann voted me there to defend either of them if that's what you're driving at.

[TheHoldSteady]

VOTE: SmileyDude1

I've played with Smiley as town and scum already. SmileyDude1 he tends to play very analytically and cautious as town. The more aggressive, pushy, tunnely, reactionary Smiley is scum Smiley.

[SmileyDude1]

-SNIP-
SmileyDude1 he tends to play very analytically and cautious as town.
-SNIP-

I'm trying to play more vibe-based and less analytical this game. There are times where it becomes super draining for me to keep up the analytical style, and I rather not lock myself into having to do that every game. My ideal balance I think would be having an established meta for both analytical me and vibe based me with me choosing which to apply depending on the game.

[SmileyDude1]

-SNIP-
The more aggressive, pushy, tunnely, reactionary Smiley is scum Smiley.
-SNIP-

Where exactly do you see any of these qualities within my play?

Aggressive- I've remained on CCS for most of the day phase, despite having ample opportunity to switch my vote to Heipizhu while their wagon built, so I don't see how my vote has been aggressive.

Pushy- Nah, if anything I think i've been more on the passive side this game. There were multiple instances of pushes being formed on me that I've mostly took a passive approach towards (Dann's 70 earlier and this most recent one now) which doesn't track with me being pushy (or aggressive for that manner).

Tunnely- This one has a pinch of merit, but even then it's not like i'm not giving takes on everyone else. If you look through my ISO you'll find plenty of instances of me poking and prodding as well as advancing the game along. Could I be tunneled on Camel? Potentially, though tunneling isn't really on its own AI.

Reactionary- An example on this one would be welcome.

[Flavor Leaf]

i've felt like Smiley is the background player in the neighborhood 4, so i dont feel like THS's analysis on this being their scum game with that meta feels accurate.

My reasoning for possible ScumSmiley was exactly the opposite, like I said, that they were the background player in the 4, possibly hiding and avoiding full confrontation.

[Titus]

VLA Till Sunday

I still expect to post some more in the evenings but not as much as I have been.

[Save The Dragons]

THS is my new pet scumread

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Heipz

if it flips town, ill just blame Hu Tao.

I'm willing to take the blame if he's town. Don't think he is.

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: SmileyDude1

I've played with Smiley as town and scum already. SmileyDude1 he tends to play very analytically and cautious as town. The more aggressive, pushy, tunnely, reactionary Smiley is scum Smiley.

Smiley is likely the scum in the hood, but that relies on heipz being scum. So I think we go there first.

[pisskop]

I think heip was very well spoken. Obviously I wont lock him as town anything, but it came off feeling pretty good.

@gamma, youre posting a bunch of pizza tower stuff. I know theres a game, but I feel like there's a comic or something the game was based on?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think heip was very well spoken. Obviously I wont lock him as town anything, but it came off feeling pretty good.

@gamma, youre posting a bunch of pizza tower stuff. I know theres a game, but I feel like there's a comic or something the game was based on?

the game kinda came first but there are comics
it's inspired gameplay-wise by Wario Land 4 and graphics-wise by 90's cartoons, like Ren and Stimpy or Courage the Cowardly Dog

[pisskop]

fair enough. it def feels retro in that respect.

[TheHoldSteady]

-SNIP-
The more aggressive, pushy, tunnely, reactionary Smiley is scum Smiley.
-SNIP-

Where exactly do you see any of these qualities within my play?

Aggressive- I've remained on CCS for most of the day phase, despite having ample opportunity to switch my vote to Heipizhu while their wagon built, so I don't see how my vote has been aggressive.

Pushy- Nah, if anything I think i've been more on the passive side this game. There were multiple instances of pushes being formed on me that I've mostly took a passive approach towards (Dann's 70 earlier and this most recent one now) which doesn't track with me being pushy (or aggressive for that manner).

Tunnely- This one has a pinch of merit, but even then it's not like i'm not giving takes on everyone else. If you look through my ISO you'll find plenty of instances of me poking and prodding as well as advancing the game along. Could I be tunneled on Camel? Potentially, though tunneling isn't really on its own AI.

Reactionary- An example on this one would be welcome.

What I mean by reactionary is throughout your ISO it seems like most of your content has been responding to what others have said, rather than analyzing game content. I did like 30 and 32 but I didn't see a lot of content that I liked afterwards. Did you try to begin this game by playing analytically and then give up on it?

Game 1 I played with you we were scum partners. In that game I recall you tunneled onto one player quite relentlessly, even when others were pushing contrary reads.

Game 2 You were town and you played very analytically, which you recognized here.

Game 3, this game, you're back to tunneling in spite of others pushing contrary reads.

What I'm trying to say is that it seems to me like you're acting more like you were in game 1 than you were in game 2.

[TheHoldSteady]

VOTE: SmileyDude1

I've played with Smiley as town and scum already. SmileyDude1 he tends to play very analytically and cautious as town. The more aggressive, pushy, tunnely, reactionary Smiley is scum Smiley.

Smiley is likely the scum in the hood, but that relies on heipz being scum. So I think we go there first.

I know hoods are usually not town-only but what are the odds that host pulled such a thing to throw us for a loop?

[heipizhu4]

Rushing an essay isn't fun, let's go:
Basically, the public info for us now is the hood, so we can start with an ISO of the hood. Since idk what was going on in the hood, (eg, who initiate the push), I can only guess. It surprises me that the hood was voting for each other, and besides that, the hood only got voted by (excluding page 1 vote):
ccs: bob3141(p2 rvs), Blackstar (111), Gamma (114)

And when they vote outside the hood:
ccs: Hu Tao (92), THS(204), me (332)
FL: me (158)
Dann: narrey (259)

P-edit: Nice, was't hammered

Emmm, I think I'll change my mind a bit, probably it wasn't ccs + hu tao.... Could it be ccs + smiley?

Hmmm what changes your mind?

The reason I had had a ping on Hu Tao and ccs is that, Hu Tao has been pocketed way too easily (in case that ccs is scum?) Probably I'll go back to the previous games they played together to check out. But as I was writing down the vca, I noticed smiley pattern, so I've decided that ccs/smiley is somehow more reasonable.

[heipizhu4]

VOTE: SmileyDude1

I've played with Smiley as town and scum already. SmileyDude1 he tends to play very analytically and cautious as town. The more aggressive, pushy, tunnely, reactionary Smiley is scum Smiley.

Smiley is likely the scum in the hood, but that relies on heipz being scum. So I think we go there first.

I know hoods are usually not town-only but what are the odds that host pulled such a thing to throw us for a loop?

0% cause my role isn't

Informed Townie

You are informed that ccs, dann, fl and smiley are neighbors lol

[heipizhu4]

Simply an interesting coincidence that made this game special from other games lol

[heipizhu4]

Rushing an essay isn't fun, let's go:
Basically, the public info for us now is the hood, so we can start with an ISO of the hood. Since idk what was going on in the hood, (eg, who initiate the push), I can only guess. It surprises me that the hood was voting for each other, and besides that, the hood only got voted by (excluding page 1 vote):
ccs: bob3141(p2 rvs), Blackstar (111), Gamma (114)

And when they vote outside the hood:
ccs: Hu Tao (92), THS(204), me (332)
FL: me (158)
Dann: narrey (259)

P-edit: Nice, was't hammered

Emmm, I think I'll change my mind a bit, probably it wasn't ccs + hu tao.... Could it be ccs + smiley?

I mean if I was scum with Snivy, don't you think i'd pivot off of them towards you at some point while your wagon was building, especially given you were within hammer range with myself off wagon at one point?

WIFOM again...

[DragonEater70]

don't mind me

[DragonEater70]

just making a pagetop VC

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