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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:30 pm

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VC 1.18

imaginality [3]:
Save The Dragons, Shirou, Titus
Titus [3]:
Firebringer, Ydrasse, jjh927
Ydrasse [2]:
Andresvmb, imaginality
Alisae [2]:
T3, camelCasedSnivy
Save The Dragons [1]:
Alisae
camelCasedSnivy [1]:
Prism

Not Voting [1]:
gob

With 13 on-board, it takes 7 to force someone to walk the plank. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-10-22 18:36:06).

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Titus replaces patchwork.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:56 pm

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I’m VLA until tomorrow unfortunately. I’ll have more time then.
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:58 pm

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In post 1426, Andresvmb wrote: I’m VLA until tomorrow unfortunately. I’ll have more time then.
You got time but PLEASE read the game and give it your attention when you can I would really appreciate your takes on the gamestate
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:28 pm

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V/LA for 24 to 48 hours


I'm ill
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 1423, Alisae wrote:
In post 1421, T3 wrote:
In post 1419, Alisae wrote: If T3 wants to donowall me I am going to be mad as heck
Someone's been on twitch for too long

Also I was phoneposting and I'm busy rn
I LITERALLY AM A STREAMER
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:32 pm

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you can find me on kick dot come slash alisae I am a vtuber
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:33 pm

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In post 1403, gob wrote: Seems like they are being abrasive so they can have an excuse why people Scumread them
In post 1417, gob wrote: I'm really not interested in fighting like that [about my own lack of knowledge and superiority]
I thought not, which is why I ceded your second post's commentary and challenged you on the substantive front in the first: your assertion that my abrasion is scum-motivated.

I urge you to pursue the initial point if you think it has promise. I laughed because I am very confident it does not and that I will survive any level of scrutiny on this point. There is value to both of us if you go prove yourself wrong, and needless to say immense payout if you prove yourself right.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:35 pm

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Maybe you don't find your own points worth pursuing. That would be very disappointing if you just wanted to aimlessly speculate and retreat from them on challenge, but that is your prerogative.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:57 pm

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Back to business as usual and setting aside my tormenting of gob, I still have not moved in my reads.

T3 continues to stay high, but I am bothered by his townread on Titus. Titus has been around the block many times and can take the basic tonal behaviors you learn in year 1. She is well past that point. I tried to track through the patchwork progression, because originally I thought T3 was a patchwork voter (which would have made the Titus flip very +town), but it looks like he's had the slot as nulltown all game.

I am very likely to vote Titus. I have been at a conference all day so have been less inclined to reread, and am flying out for weekend reunion festivities tomorrow. I will fit a more substantive review of the game if I can, but I picture my role will more be "Help any wagon go through that isn't on my townreads"
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:06 pm

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imaginality's post also didn't really do him any favors. The ISO is still too thin and I prefer reading him over the long run instead of through tone.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:25 pm

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Prism, stop dancing around the issue and vote me already. You want to fight. Fine. I'll get scum out of the game despite you. I find it interesting you've had imaginality as neutral or scum all game but now that people are wanting a wagon here your tone changes. When Alisae was the wagon choice, you were fine diddling around on camel. Now that imaginality is a wagon, you change your vote rather than defend imaginality.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:26 pm

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I like a team of Ydrasse, imaginality and Prism by play.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:31 pm

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In post 1435, Titus wrote: Prism, stop dancing around the issue and vote me already. You want to fight. Fine. I'll get scum out of the game despite you. I find it interesting you've had imaginality as neutral or scum all game but now that people are wanting a wagon here your tone changes. When Alisae was the wagon choice, you were fine diddling around on camel. Now that imaginality is a wagon, you change your vote rather than defend imaginality.
No. As a bonus, I have and will probably continue to have zero interest in fighting you.

I also telegraphed my unavailability many days in advance.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:35 pm

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@mod consider me V/LA till weekend. I got work stuff to get done
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:40 pm

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the real game does not begin until 3 days time kekw
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:17 pm

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These two posts, from a game where a town-imaginality got outposted and eliminated Day 1, are very insightful into how he thinks about the game and gamepaces like this one IMO.
In post 971, imaginality wrote:
In post 965, Klickwork wrote: you're not going to be limmed because?
Because you're going to unvote me because I'm not the droid you're looking for.


Because I've seen this happen multiple other times D1 where people go after me early and then it dies down and the game itself starts happening and I get more townread. (As whatever alignment.)

I think it's maybe something to do with how I get out of rvs earlier than most but at the same time people read those early posts as more weighty than they usually are? Plus playstyle and timezone differences usually mean I post slightly longer more thought out posts compared to quickfire back and forth so my posts can get seen as 'artificial'.

Anyway whatever the reason, I'm confident you'll all see me as glowing with towniness before too long.
In post 5039, imaginality wrote:
In post 5005, Alisae wrote: Village should want to high post as well and generally people who are excited to be villagers and want to play and solve will post a lot
I kinda disagree with this, or at least, "post a lot" is relative. I was excited to be in this game, posted more frequently than I usually do, and still felt buried. Especially the time when I got like 6 or so "more posts have been made" messages in a row when I was trying to post was rather frustrating.

This game definitely showed how powerful the scum flooding the thread can be but as someone who can't keep up that pace of posting even when motivated and enthusiastic (due to a mix of reasons) this game is making me wonder how to handle similar games in future.

I would prefer not to end up adopting a Not_Mafia-esque "maybe I should just zero-effort the first few days and only start playing if I'm still alive then" playstyle but I do see the appeal of that approach a little more right now lol.

I guess my main positive takeaway idea from this game to apply in future games is to try to prioritise getting good reads on the most active posters earlier, so I can try to call out their spamming harder if I scumread them.

Oh and try to look less scummy D1, that'd help too :p
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:35 pm

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In post 1433, Prism wrote: T3 continues to stay high, but I am bothered by his townread on Titus. Titus has been around the block many times and can take the basic tonal behaviors you learn in year 1. She is well past that point. I tried to track through the patchwork progression, because originally I thought T3 was a patchwork voter (which would have made the Titus flip very +town), but it looks like he's had the slot as nulltown all game.
I am not townreading Titus for tone
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:53 pm

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Actually, let's run up Titus after all!

VOTE: Titus

This is a post from scum Titus in 2019:
In post 5249, Titus wrote:Cara, how can you not see how obviously scum Garmr is?
This is another post from scum Titus in 2015:
In post 1602, Titus wrote: Dwelee how can you not see this is just blatantly saving AJ who can't make a protown post.
This is a post from Titus this game:
In post 1010, Titus wrote: Prism, how can you not see Ydrasse's vote on patchwork as the scumclaim it is?
So far as I can town, she has never used this turn of phrase as town. This is the closest town post I can find, and it comes in specific response to "I don't see it?" on a mechanical question.
In post 226, Titus wrote:
In post 224, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 223, Titus wrote:
In post 221, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 219, Titus wrote:@Gamma, Why is obviously dodging a lie detector check protown?
Who did it?
Did it?

CommKnight is refusing to let himself be checked by the lie detector or answer what he is getting from that? I see zero useful to town about that.
I don't see it?
How can you not see his blatant refusal to type I am town in a post by itself.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:56 pm

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Aw, scratch that, I mixed up a towngame and a scumgame. The second quote is town while the fourth quote is scum.

VOTE: Camel
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:36 pm

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When Alisae was the main wagon:

1) Ali constantly putting out "content"
2) Game activity EXPLODED

Alisae wagon dismantled:

1) Ali fluffling up
2) Game activity SUNK
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:37 pm

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and you think that this is the most likely wagon to give us scum today?

Alright, I'll have to disagree.

VOTE: Alisae
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"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:40 pm

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In post 1445, Shirou wrote: and you think that this is the most likely wagon to give us scum today?
I meant this towards Imaginality/Titus wagons that have been progressively getting bigger without much in counterwagon attempts.

I've reconsidered my position and my final conclusion is that I really don't think Alisae is town. @Imaginality, @Titus, what would take you to vote Ali since the other most likely alternatives are one of you?
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:41 pm

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My presence is why activity exploded...

Can we please not divert from scum?
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:42 pm

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In post 1446, Shirou wrote:
In post 1445, Shirou wrote: and you think that this is the most likely wagon to give us scum today?
I meant this towards Imaginality/Titus wagons that have been progressively getting bigger without much in counterwagon attempts.

I've reconsidered my position and my final conclusion is that I really don't think Alisae is town. @Imaginality, @Titus, what would take you to vote Ali since the other most likely alternatives are one of you?
I'll vote Alisae over my own death or another townread because it's not utterly useless if I'm right and I could be wrong. I just don't want to vote someone I think is town.
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:43 pm

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In post 1447, Titus wrote: My presence is why activity exploded...
No it's not, If I remember right you replaced only after it had already started to be rather lively here, but even if you were to believe that, what do you make of Alisae progressively posting less "content" as her wagon loses force?
"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."

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