Iceman Modeth - Mini 688 (GAME OVER!!!)

[orangepenguin]

Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it so. In Mafia, it's called tunnel vision.

I'd be more than happy to claim that I have tunnel vision if it gets pyro lynched.

Translation: I'd be more than happy to claim doctor if it gets pyro lynched?

[mrfixij]

Doctor? Where are you getting that from?

[orangepenguin]

Sorry, meant cop.

But were you hinting at your role there. Cause your tunnel vision without a case makes total sense now.

[Xtoxm]

Ah. I hadn't actually considered that. But yeh.

Unvote Vote Pyro

This is looking pretty good now. Scum can only kill one power.

CKD for vig imo, but yeh pretty much anything works. We'll either get a new cop result or an extra vig kill.

As discussed yesterday, I think cop claim today is just the best way to go. If you'd waited, and it got in lylo tomorrow, we'd have to make a decision about believing you or not.

[Xtoxm]

Actually, we do need some co-ordination, so you don't target same person.

One of you needs to make your target public.

There's also a fair chance last scum is GF, assuming Fix is real.

[mrfixij]

We can't forget about schez either, but I don't think he's scum. No hard evidence to back it up though. The hammer on vollkan with no vote prior seems like good evidence.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote Pyro

yes, please vig me, get me out of this silly game...just when I flip town, make EA pay for his bullshit. I didnt lie....I DID think vollkan was town...I DID not like the masons after they claim (I cant believe I am actually arguing this point). REALLY look at his case and see if HE was twisting words..

also note...the only person that agreed with him at first...was Pyro...

[PyroDwarf]

well, dang. I was thinking of counter claiming or something, but that wouldn't really help me. I was thinking of calling mrfixiji's sanity into question, but figured I'd still be lynched.

So...yeah...sorry about your barn.

The scum was me a bg/vol, so it should be game over with my lynch.
any helpful advice or constructive critisizim is appreciated.

[Xtoxm]

If that does end that game, then i'd say it's very town sided...3 powers, masons, and 2 small opposing scum teams?

I hope it doesn't end. That would be too easy.

[PyroDwarf]

Thats what i was thinking too, I mean we had a roleblocker, maybe that was supposed to even it out? Sucks that yall' hit our RB and the SK N1.
1V.mafia and 1Mafia RB
1sk
1vig
1cop
1doc
2masons
4townie?
Maybe there is another pair of scum? Or a "back-up" SK? Is there such a thing?

[PyroDwarf]

DPE:
Any tips on scum hunting in general, I'm still pretty noob when it comes to that. Town and scum advice welcome.

[mrfixij]

DPE:
Any tips on scum hunting in general, I'm still pretty noob when it comes to that. Town and scum advice welcome.

There's generally two ways to scumhunt, and it all comes down to personal playing style.

Proactive: You take gambits, you start prodding around and you do it a LOT. You read over every post twice. Anything that seems remotely off you bring up. You take notes on every person's stance whenever it's said. And then when you find a big shift (IE, EA's case on CKD), you lay down a monster case. The big problem with this approach is that you are often accused of having tunnel vision or jumping focus, and it puts you in the limelight. It's very effective at keeping everyone on their toes though.

Passive: You let other people do most of the talking for you. Meanwhile, you're still taking notes and looking for slipups. However, you don't try to pry open scum, you wait for them to mess up without you causing it and then strike. It's easier for a scum to do this, but you also remain more under the radar usually. This is a better way to not be obvtown and avoid getting NK'd.

[curiouskarmadog]

also EA, you can stuff that case..lol

I told you I wasnt lying.

[Xtoxm]

Sounds of it, when Pyro gets lynched i'll have gone from being in 4 Mini's to being in one in the course of about a day.

[PyroDwarf]

There's generally two ways to scumhunt, and it all comes down to personal playing style.

Proactive: You take gambits, you start prodding around and you do it a LOT. You read over every post twice. Anything that seems remotely off you bring up. You take notes on every person's stance whenever it's said. And then when you find a big shift (IE, EA's case on CKD), you lay down a monster case. The big problem with this approach is that you are often accused of having tunnel vision or jumping focus, and it puts you in the limelight. It's very effective at keeping everyone on their toes though.

Passive: You let other people do most of the talking for you. Meanwhile, you're still taking notes and looking for slipups. However, you don't try to pry open scum, you wait for them to mess up without you causing it and then strike. It's easier for a scum to do this, but you also remain more under the radar usually. This is a better way to not be obvtown and avoid getting NK'd.

But if you use the passive style, is it not also likely that you will be accused of not scum hunting? In one of my first games, I found my self agreeing with another player and once I had said that a few times, it was brought up in a case against me.

[icemanE]

VOTE COUNT:

Pyrodwarf - 3: mrfixij, Xtoxm, curiouskarmadog
curiouskarmadog - 2: Erratus Apathos, Pyrodwarf
mrfixij - 1: G-Force


Not voting: Scheherazade, orangepenguin
With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes for a lynch.

[orangepenguin]

Vote: Pyrodwarf

[PyroDwarf]

wow sche probably should have been replaced. I shoulda called him out to buy some time.
Any thought on if I could have pulled off calling mrfixij insane or parinoid?
OH BTW, if the game doesn't end when I die, lynch him.
Seriously he better not be lying about being the cop.

[Xtoxm]

No. Once he'd claimed that i'd be dead set on you.

[orangepenguin]

I doubt there is 2 scum though. I am sure there is more.

Pyro

are you really scum? Or are you just clueless of what to do now, so you just are getting lynched? Why would mrfixij lie about being cop if you're scum?

[Erratus Apathos]

Unvote, vote: PyroDwarf

*waits in suspense*

[PyroDwarf]

no, if i were VT, I would be calling him parinoid, insane, scum etc. I would still get lynched, im sure, but once I flipped town, what would ya'll do?
I'm worried that he is so caught up in his own tunnel vision that he claimed cop just to get my lynched. I didn't see an out for meyself that lead to me winning, even if I convinced people that he was insane, or counterclaimed. the way i figured it was: I counter claim and people belive me (yay!) mrfixij is lynched-flips town, OP nk's someone(EA), mafia nk's some one(op). that still leaves me and 3 townies. With mrfixij flipped as not scum, i have a big bullsey on my head.
If i call his sanity into question and people belive me, we lynch some one(CKD)-flips town, op-nk's some one(EA), mafia nk's some one(Mrfix). that still leaves me with 3 townies AND a vig.
Either way, I saw a noose at the end of the tunnel and didnt really want to trag it out further then neccicary.

[PyroDwarf]

LOL, jester FTW.

[orangepenguin]

That's what I was thinking. I was actually going to unvote just before. Le sigh.

[orangepenguin]

EA is totally scum then, if you are the jester. Ugh.