Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Prism]

Why aren't people voting imaginality?

His reads are nothing to write home about but the posting style and frequency is very typical of his towngame, which I believe you expressed concern about.

[Alisae]

Yes. I don't waiver when scum slip.

you also don't waiver when it comes to any setup related opinions either

[Titus]

Yes. I don't waiver when scum slip.

you also don't waiver when it comes to any setup related opinions either

Nope.

No one's opinion waivers without new evidence. I just admit it. People might change their minds on strategy and compromising but no one's been persuaded of anything for the most part. So we should all go for choice two rather than dividing town.

That requires you and Shirou to work together. Yet you're both as stubborn as me.

[Prism]

gob, you also aren't currently voting imaginality. If you're sympathetic to the cause, you should probably put it on the board.

[Alisae]

gob, you also aren't currently voting imaginality. If you're sympathetic to the cause, you should probably put it on the board.

you know what the current votecount is?

[Prism]

Not 6 and gob doesn't believe it's 6.

[Alisae]

its a yes or no question

[Prism]

I do not know the precise number on imaginality. I would be mildly surprised if it was 3, and shocked if it was 4, and question reality if it were higher.

[Alisae]

Im going to go back to consuming one piece

[imaginality]

isnt the imaginality wagon just based on low post count? is there something I'm missing

Low wagon posting, everyone doesn't townread him, he's bad on wagons, he flails and bails rather than give content.

Bad on wagons?

I thought you also scum read Ydrasse who I've been voting most of today.

[jjh927]

I mean, I've tried pretty hard to explore the wagon options I want and nobody else seems to want them

Talking about higher activity when alisae was being rung up says nothing of resistance to the wagon.

Shirou's newest push directly contradicts Titus' whole schtick. I like that Titus has been actually resisting the Alisae wagon this time but it's still bugging me that Titus basically just asked nicely not to vote there rather than bringing up her points about how the activity/ lack of it with the wagon points to town!Alisae

[Alisae]

I find it hard to believe it's Titus right now

[jjh927]

I'm a bit annoyed STD left before the good bit because if I could say the same about him I'd be pursuing something else right now

[jjh927]

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

[imaginality]

and you think that this is the most likely wagon to give us scum today?

I meant this towards Imaginality/Titus wagons that have been progressively getting bigger without much in counterwagon attempts.

I've reconsidered my position and my final conclusion is that I really don't think Alisae is town. @Imaginality, @Titus, what would take you to vote Ali since the other most likely alternatives are one of you?

I don't see Ydrasse happening today and recent posts of Alisae's haven't altered me leaning scum on them so I'd be happy to move my vote to Alisae, yeah.

VOTE: Alisae E-2 I think?

I also want to share this thought to see if it rings true for anyone:

I wondered if Prism's "here are some reasons to vote Titus, oh, wait, no I misread one of the games, it's fine, carry on" sequence of posts 1442 - 1443 was genuine, or was it faked and intended to add a bit of distance without putting Titus at risk of a wagon building on her? It just feels like a mistake Prism might be unlikely to actually make what with their careful posting style?

I might be overthinking that, like it seems most folks think I was with Ydrasse's slip, but just putting it out there.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Alisae E-2 I think?

you're keeping track of the votecount?

[imaginality]

Nope I thought I could go back a page or two and Dannflor would've updated one of those pagetops but nope I had to skim through like 20 pages.

[imaginality]

I just wanted to make sure I announced it if I was putting you at E-1

[Shirou]

I wondered if Prism's "here are some reasons to vote Titus, oh, wait, no I misread one of the games, it's fine, carry on" sequence of posts 1442 - 1443 was genuine

I was also wondering about that. I think Prism has done quite a bit of stuff that I would normally town-lean from other players, but although I never saw him play as scum/town, I get the feeling he's likely a very good scum player and definitely could have faked everything he has done so far.

Therefore do know that if I'm struggling to confidently move you past the null range Prism, it's a sign of respect?!

[Shirou]

Talking about higher activity when alisae was being rung up says nothing of resistance to the wagon.

Neither the high activity OR the multiple attempts at counterwagons say anything about resistance to the wagon JJH?

Define "wagon resistance" then, does it need people to say "I'm standing here, as resistance, in solidarity against X wagon" or does it needs the wagon to never have a lot of votes even though there's way more town than scum?

Other than me, what IS the vocal resistance to Titus? (indirectly, given I'm not that sure Titus is town compared to feeling pretty good about scum!Ali).

[Shirou]

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

I agree StD reads/analysis hasn't been the best but that feels kinda rude...

[jjh927]

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

I agree StD reads/analysis hasn't been the best but that feels kinda rude...

I mean he is essentially saying "I don't like this. This is yuck" or "I like this" or "I don't like this. I liked it for a little bit but then I didn't like it"

[Prism]

Therefore do know that if I'm struggling to confidently move you past the null range Prism, it's a sign of respect?!

I have always been aware and amused. Mafia is a very inclusive game because of this self-correcting dynamic for imbalances in skill and experience.

My point earlier when contrasting the standards between myself and camel was to highlight that camel is a human being with roughly the same or greater levels of creativity, intelligence, and capacity for deception, not a literal camel. The bars can be different, but people's expectations of what is town indicative of camel are criminally low.

[Titus]

isnt the imaginality wagon just based on low post count? is there something I'm missing

Low wagon posting, everyone doesn't townread him, he's bad on wagons, he flails and bails rather than give content.

Bad on wagons?

I thought you also scum read Ydrasse who I've been voting most of today.

Past wagons.

[Titus]

Shirou, the wagon "resistance" is scum avoiding the Alisae wagon. They don't need to try because you drown out every other attempt and scum can just sail on by. I'll eat my words if wrong but I think scum are entirely in my pool. This damn day needs to end because you and Alisae are too stubborn to cooperate.