Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Titus]

I mean, I've tried pretty hard to explore the wagon options I want and nobody else seems to want them

Talking about higher activity when alisae was being rung up says nothing of resistance to the wagon.

Shirou's newest push directly contradicts Titus' whole schtick. I like that Titus has been actually resisting the Alisae wagon this time but it's still bugging me that Titus basically just asked nicely not to vote there rather than bringing up her points about how the activity/ lack of it with the wagon points to town!Alisae

I've said them again and again already. Shirou's convinced of his narrative (not using that word in a negative context).

Shirou's spammed the game to stall out. If we had the ability to actually discuss scum and coordinate on people no one townreads, we'd hot scum.

[Titus]

Note I'm not scumreading Shirou. Just a complaint about his tunnel.

[Dannflor]

VC 1.19

Life and Death

Alisae [5]:

T3, camelCasedSnivy, Shirou, Prism, imaginality

Titus [3]:

Firebringer, Ydrasse, jjh927

imaginality [2]:

Save The Dragons, Titus

Ydrasse [1]:

Andresvmb

Save The Dragons [1]:

Alisae

Not Voting [1]:

gob

With 13 on-board, it takes 7 to force someone to walk the plank. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-10-22 18:36:06).

Mod Notes:

Firebringer is V/LA.

[Prism]

I don't know if I like the company I'm keeping here, but we're on the wagon and halfway to Oregon.

[Ydrasse]

i read the pages when i woke up but then i forgot them
looking at the vc i think if alisae is a wolf e's being bussed by at least One person
i guess imaginality

i think there's been a lot of noise around imaginality lately but also then i look at the people voting imaginality who i dont feel terrific about so it's like. is this bus on bus violence. is our civilization doomed?

[Save The Dragons]

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

excuse you

[jjh927]

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

excuse you

Are you ready to talk specifics about what you liked/disliked about Alisae's posting or are we going to remain on the "I didn't like it, but then I liked it for a bit and now I don't like it any more again" level

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Alisae e-1

[Save The Dragons]

Right now STD's reads are on the same intellectual level as a child talking about vegetables

excuse you

Are you ready to talk specifics about what you liked/disliked about Alisae's posting or are we going to remain on the "I didn't like it, but then I liked it for a bit and now I don't like it any more again" level

no

[Save The Dragons]

because it's an ineffable quality of their posts not a direct "this post is good because they posted a readslist featuring reads i liked"

[camelCasedSnivy]

jjh do you think its scummy or just bad play

[Prism]

jjh has reached the "desperately wringing the companion for water" stage. Optimism has waned. It is only a matter of time now. The end for him is near.

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: Alisae e-1

hmmmmmmm

[jjh927]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of broccoli either

[camelCasedSnivy]

actually this day has gone on long enough bout time we get some information

[Save The Dragons]

it's not even bad play

as town i have some moments of brilliance doing what i do

[Save The Dragons]

so trying to convince me i suck because i don't play like you isn't going to work

[camelCasedSnivy]

jjh do you think its scummy or just bad play

[camelCasedSnivy]

stop calling std a child ffs

[Save The Dragons]

jjh, you don't understand me, that's the fundamental difference, and you're not even trying to.

build a bridge and get over it

[Prism]

We all know that mafia is about being right in your reads at the end of the day and shaming others for being wrong, not about building robust voting coalitions to further a shared win condition.

[Prism]

jjh, you don't understand me, that's the fundamental difference, and

you're not even trying to.

build a bridge and get over it

jjh, please lay down on the couch. Let's start from the beginning. How are you feeling at the moment? Where do you think those feelings come from?

[jjh927]

jjh do you think its scummy or just bad play

That's what's getting to me at present. I can't tell because there is literally no substance to this and I find it entirely plausible that this dude could completely resist any attempt to improve his scumhunting ability as town

I've been through this with similar players both town and scum and as either alignment there is generally a continued attempt to engage with each of the questions in turn, making it easier to determine alignment as it is either genuine or faked and the type of player who plays like this is not experienced enough to mask it

STD has actively resisted any line of questioning that goes beyond the most basic level of description

[Titus]

Shiro, I am sick of this day. Will you vote in my pool if Alisae flips town?

[jjh927]

I'm gonna say it's scummy on the basis that there is no difference, tangible or otherwise, between Alisae's posting style before and after STD's initial vote, whereas it was a possible point of gamestate shift and a moment that STD used to repeatedly point at himself and say he wasn't scum because why would scum unvote Alisae, and now that the Alisae wagon has rebuilt he is getting back on the wagon

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

In the absence of any higher reasoning driving the play, the only assumption left is that it was scum motivation that drove that particular interaction