In post 1595, Prism wrote:
Maybe you should have convinced the other town players on that front instead of going on a snipe hunt.
I warned you a week in advance you were snipehunting and you insisted on verifying it yourself. Enjoy the consequences.
I mean, the Alisae wagon consists of T3, camel, shirou, you, imaginality, STD, Titus
Like, this wagon almost certainly has all the scum on it
The other half of the game would have been a good bet for people to talk to
You mean like I tried? But the wagon is town driven.
All the scum doesn't match the gamestate unless we're incredibly toxic and divided. So who is doing that? The problem is the people shading me are off wagon too. Makes no sense.
There's no way that a world where none of my reads get enough traction and the 5 slots at the bottom of my readslist are all on the same wagon is going to lead to a scumflip
If I'm wrong life would be a whole lot easier
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle
If Alisae flips scum then like I said, game gets soooo much easier and I'd get to see not only that I was wrong but I'd see 5 conftowns that almost certainly overlap with my lim pool due to the wagon
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle
In post 1609, Titus wrote:
I struggle with you because I can't tell if you're arrogant or scum. You act like there's only one way to play.
I think I have embraced several different ways to play in this game alone. I think putting in a sincere attempt to cooperate and communicate with other players is the only prerequisite or foundation that I have.
I haven't critiqued your style much outside of some joking ribbing about preflippers. I have given you a large amount of leeway because of your style: I thought your chain of reasoning on Ydrasse was unsound from start to finish, but I never called you scum for it or hassled you over it.
You are very correct that if I don't believe someone sincerely tries to make themselves understood, but instead sandbags as town because it makes the scum alignment easier to play, then I will not respect their play style.
In post 1605, jjh927 wrote:
Town
Prism
Ydrasse
Alisae
gob
Firebringer
Andresvmb
T3
Town?
camelCasedSnivy
imaginality
Scum?
Shirou
Save The Dragons
Titus
Why is Andresvmb town to you?
Why were you unwilling to vote imaginality when your pet wagons got no traction?
If we actually worked together like I desperately tried, then maybe just maybe we'd get a different result.
Yet, you and everyone else just wanted their number one and was unwilling to compromise.
I have to wonder how much that benefitted you do to that and then gloat.
Andres' early contributions were very promising and extremely clearly showed his line of thinking.
Inactivity I think is very much NAI for andres but I think he did a lot when he was there
I was not going to compromise on Imaginality when it was just you offering it and there was comparable takeup for STD or yourself. Cooperating with scumreads for the sake of cooperation does not lead to scumflips, especially not in this setup
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle
I think the particularly neat thing here is that by adopting an overconfident tone I think Titus has matched it and indicated she knows Alisae is flipping town
"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle
Camel, why do you not want that? I'd rather get it out preflip as its more raw. Less reflection.
Prism, you just feel like the reasonable person standard. Your posting feels like it lacks something to really reach out and be cooperative emotionally.
I don't mind you calling me out on my shit. That's how I correct myself. If no one, tactfully, calls me out on my shit, I suppose it's scum not wanting to bus or town pride and I'm right.
I believe we win when fighting fair and agreeing to disagree when it's over.
Emotions will get heated. But it's about listening emotionally.
I struggle with conveying that and sometimes doing it because of my autism but I try.
I use these to rehearse reaching juries because it's the same skill.
In post 1620, jjh927 wrote:
I think the particularly neat thing here is that by adopting an overconfident tone I think Titus has matched it and indicated she knows Alisae is flipping town
This is bullshit to excuse your knowledge that I called you out on.
I don't agree. She is talking to you on your terms and trying to understand you, or at minimum running through the motions to project the appearance of it.
In post 1617, Prism wrote:
You are very correct that if I don't believe someone sincerely tries to make themselves understood, but instead sandbags as town because it makes the scum alignment easier to play, then I will not respect their play style.
Do you really feel like this about I'm guessing StD?
