Her hedginess, indecisive newbiness, and cutesy innocence and towniness are things that I've seen newer scum players wielding with much effectiveness in the past.
Dannflor is right - I think that if Black was scum, she would be pushing things much more aggressively this game. And that orobably applies to all the veteran players.
And I actually think that from reading the game state, it makes a lot of sense that scum haven't been very aggressive this game, and that instead they laid low and let town tear each other apart. I already had a game like that in the newbie queue, where I locked three other townies as town on Day 1, and then eliminated two of them on Day 1 and Day 2 because they were just 1v1'ing each other while the scum hedged on the sidelines.
I think if you view it in this light, then this game makes a lot more sense.
VOTE: kittie
Is this not the crux of your kittie case? How is that not exactly what I just said?
The self-vote really screwed us here Dragon, but no point agonising over it. Kittie reading scum into people voicing suspicion of her isn't entirely new (she had the whole vote back thing with Gimli early into Day 1), how confident are you that this is actually Kittie scum behaviour and not just new player getting overly defensive and OMGUS the person pushing at them?
I genuinely don't believe Timmer knew he was hammering you there - the Dann/Black thing combined with the self-voting honestly gives enough grounds for me to be able to buy someone not realising that you were actually just a single vote away from execution. Though there is always that crackpot theory that an experienced player coached him through it... but that wouldn't make sense with a Kittie/Timmer scumteam.
In post 1055, Cometbright wrote:
The self-vote really screwed us here Dragon, but no point agonising over it. Kittie reading scum into people voicing suspicion of her isn't entirely new (she had the whole vote back thing with Gimli early into Day 1), how confident are you that this is actually Kittie scum behaviour and not just new player getting overly defensive and OMGUS the person pushing at them?
I'd be lying if I said I'm 100% or even 90% certain
But it's the best I have
Sorry for self voting but I got really frustrated and lost all desire to play when everyone's been just sort of circling me like hungry crows. At least the crows revealed thesmelves
@Timmer: if it was an honest mistake, you should ALWAYS ask the mod to clarify first before just assuming it's a mod error.
I'd do a longer response to you Knott but literally any second the thread could suddenly lock so have to be quick here.
I think Knott would still be in my limpool even with his evidence - limming the theoretically more experienced scum makes sense but again your entire case for Black!scum was dependent upon Timmer!scum - it just does not compute for me??? I dunno man I'll think over it during the night but I might be killed so want to say it out here now.
In post 1054, TimmerRC wrote:
I double checked their posts, they have NOT voted for you.
Black voted for him though and Dann (her replacement) never formally unvoted. The vote doesn't go away upon replacement.
Ffs. Where I played years ago there was a basic rule that if you replaced out your vote was instantly annulled. How can someone get limmed with a replaced out vote??
There are 2 kinds of people in the world... those who can handle incomplete statements
Did Merlyn ever fully catch up? If Dragon flips town here we're heading into ELO which is going to be a nightmare with neither replacement really having integrated fully into the game here.
I am sorry, I just had never heard of that, this is completely on me. There's nothing about it in the site rules that I can see, in hindsight, I should have asked first.
There are 2 kinds of people in the world... those who can handle incomplete statements
Note for the newbies: if Dragon flips town and assuming a town is killed during the night we will be in ELO (eliminate or lose)! This means you SHOULD NOT vote without being fully confident the person you are voting is scum as if you mistakenly vote for a town member, the other two scum can quickly vote together to hammer and end the game with a scum victory.
You weren't making sense at all and seemed argumentative, so putting you to e-1 and showing where I stand on you seemed like the right move. I expected it to lead to everyone giving your posts a good look and potentially a claim.
There are 2 kinds of people in the world... those who can handle incomplete statements
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