btw not sure if I claimed but just in case I'm a VT
Pedit: that's what I find weird, that it's neg utility
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We are in Mislim/lose situation if it is 4/4In post 7063, DragonEater70 wrote: with the amount of VTs we have, it's VERY unlikely scum teams were 4/4
Wouldnt a plethera of VT claims and goons mean its more likely to be 4/4 instead of 3/3? I think worst has a point about 33/33/33beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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wait no. if we miselim that puts us into a kingmaker situation.In post 7126, pisskop wrote: We are in Mislim/lose situation if it is 4/4beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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So, this post triggered something for me. I'm going to prepend this with if pisskop's scum, we lost, because this train of thought involves him being town.In post 7072, Naerys wrote: Stop creating doubts Nurse or i will start to think u might scum
This whole game centers on doubt - why didn't <x> get killed at night? In general if a person is scummy, or not strongly TR at least, it's easier to push a mislim. On the other hand, strong townreads that actually are town are usually NKs, because that's the only way scum can get rid of them. In this game, we had JV, furtive, and FL already who were pretty universally TR and all NKs. Of the remaining players, pisskop and RN are the only two that are strongly being TR. RN made a BP claim early on, giving himself a pretty strong defense of why he'll never be NKed. pisskop has claimed VT, which if true means he has no defense. The only reason for him to be left alive is to spread that doubt of "If he's so strongly TR, why wasn't he NKed?", leading to reasoning for a lim in limlo (elo?).
What am I trying to say? I agree with Naerys that RN does seem to be trying to spread doubt now, and with the out he gave himself early on has a strong defense of himself being alive vs anyone else at end game.
Someone who's better at setup spec can also chime in, but with the PRs that have flipped already, and the fact there are 4 mafia with 0 PRs flipped, an unlimited BP seems a bit OP.
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yeah give me a coupleIn post 7084, DragonEater70 wrote: Btw pisskop, do you mind updating the VCA? I would actually like to see Gob's interactions with people.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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2 vigsIn post 7125, DragonEater70 wrote: Pedit: that's what I find weird, that it's neg utility
2 roleblockers
1 BP
Either
18/3/3 or 16/4/4beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I ended up backtracking on this a bit since I liked gob's response, but this is back as a possibility.In post 6887, shaddowez wrote: is it possible the other team is gob/Enchant?V/LA on Weekends-
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lol I kept my quote in. ignore that, its updated.
Spoiler: Day2beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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having savedragons and dragoneater is kind of freaking my mind lolbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Something else interesting I just noticed from pisskops VCA - davesaz voted RN a couple of times, but the opposite never happened.V/LA on Weekends-
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lol I just noticed how I never voted dave.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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VOTE: Random
Im kind of here too. I think the final 2 maf are in [shaddow, random, snivy]beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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If there's 4 its probably including enchant or worstbeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Im leaning away from 4/4, considering the gamestate, I dont think we're seeing enough spew for that.
If Random is telling the truth than there's an informed mafia. I think that makes the most sense if the teams are 18/3/3. That gives the mafia a complex role for the vig, but doesnt solve the negative utility part. It even adds to it because now the complex vig cant 'hit' Random.
If he is lying I think that means its more likely that he's a mafia PR, and 2 goons and 1 PR for hunting otherscum sounds right.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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True, you and RN have a similar vote placement. Honestly I was looking purely at RN's placements.In post 7139, pisskop wrote: lol I just noticed how I never voted dave.
I agree.In post 7140, pisskop wrote: I think the final 2 maf are in [enchant, random, snivy]V/LA on Weekends-
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if its 4/4 i think we already lostmaster at being scum(my)-
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In post 7143, shaddowez wrote:I agree.
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We'd be a 4/2/2, so we could technically still win. A mislim would hurt us greatly though, and would need at least 1 crosskill to have any possiblity (may need both, haven't mathed out that far)V/LA on Weekends-
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You didn't read my edit
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I did sorry I think its kind of funny actually.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Fair.
Why are you anti-scum!Enchant?V/LA on Weekends
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