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Post Post #7300 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:32 pm

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these strings of posts probably help explain the like. mmmmmm. i feel like a lot of people who weren't for the enchant wagon were raising fairly good points & engaging well (tl, furtive, naerys). admittedly i don't really know how i feel about it given the way gob interacted with the wagon (scroll down) ---

In post 5788, the worst wrote: I'm actually like

VOTE: enchant

weirdly I like this about 1% more than I like dave I don't really have any notes on either of them except confusion
In post 5789, TemporalLich wrote: enchant is impossible to sort so I'm very unconfident in an enchant wagon when we need to be confident in a wagon
In post 5790, furtiveglance wrote: Is TW somehow scum with both CSF and dave? What is going on
In post 5791, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 5787, the worst wrote: I will not be voting for csf because - once again - y'all are mindlessly wagoning fairly obvious town.
See - I'd usually get S/T pocketing vibes but hey, it's multiball
In post 5796, the worst wrote: if we can yeet both Dave and Enchant I'll die happy. like why are smart people voting for csf rn
In post 5797, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 5796, the worst wrote: if we can yeet both Dave and Enchant I'll die happy. like why are smart people voting for csf rn
:roll:
In post 5798, pisskop wrote: I could do dave too

enchant I mean youd have to sell me
In post 5799, camelCasedSnivy wrote: actually enchant is in the same pool as TL for me

UNVOTE: TemporalLich

VOTE: Enchant
In post 5801, camelCasedSnivy wrote: enchant is likely some sort of expendable goon that's trying to get as many mislims as possible
In post 5805, pisskop wrote: Town enchant?

Anyway, Im just under the impression theyre kind of trollish as a personality trait.

What I like about them is how they seem to be actively pushing the game forward with their own ideas
In post 5812, the worst wrote:
In post 5805, pisskop wrote: Town enchant?

Anyway, Im just under the impression theyre kind of trollish as a personality trait.

What I like about them is how they seem to be actively pushing the game forward with their own ideas
I feel like enchant's takes are kind of fringe/safe? where has Enchant advanced the dialogue
In post 5813, the worst wrote: I hope fringe/safe makes sense outside my brain
In post 5833, Naerys wrote:
In post 5827, the worst wrote:
In post 5821, Naerys wrote: The worst have u checked CSF voting actions? How are town reading that? Explain please
no, should I?

I think their play has been towny so I haven't dug into their vca or whatever can someone talk me through what they're seeing here?
So you are basically admitting that you are not really giving much effort into this game. Kinda different from 2309 mini you, where you helped us win smoothly.
In post 5838, gob wrote: Enchant is weird... kinda, idk I don't really think they're that scummy. They draw a lot of attention to their voting, they also openly sheeped me (although that might've been some kind of play).
So I think they're town.
In post 5840, furtiveglance wrote: I now get the feeling scum are just trying to roadblock today's vote. You probably know who I'm talking about

--- but then by the time we get to this VC i had this deep ick because enchant was simultaneously a counterwagon to
1) the wagon i'd been working against all day (csf) (oops)
2) the wagon i'd been advocating in favour of for a while (dave)
In post 5842, T3 wrote:


Day 4 VC 4:

Cat Scratch Fever
(6) bob3141,
furtiveglance
,
TemporalLich
, Naerys, shaddowez, pisskop
Enchant (4):
Cat Scratch Fever
,
davesaz
, the worst, camelCasedSnivy
davesaz
(3):
gob
, Enchant, BBmolla

Not voting (1): Random Nurse

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2023-10-15 09:54:00).

With 14 alive it takes 8 to eliminate and 7 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES: I took my SAT today and my left arm is cramped af
the people pushing enchant were the two people being wagoned, myself who i townread, and snivy who i do not townread.

there were people arguing against the enchant lim but they honestly largely seemed to be arguing in earnest? hindsight on both csf/dave is helping but admittedly it kinda feels like both factions felt like enchant was expendable at that moment

this exercise makes me feel quite good about enchant actually
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Post Post #7301 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:38 pm

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In post 7299, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 7297, Random Nurse wrote: We should be looking at who absolutely refused, tooth and nail, to vote for either flipped Scum.
I disagree, scum vote their partners all the time:
In post 1523, Alianna in Mini Normal 2309 wrote:
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(ELIMINATED):
Naerys, Dannflor, Political Clout,
Save The Dragons
, BBmolla,
KatyKimFanClub
, Yimmy
In post 1361, SirCakez in Fruit Mafia wrote:
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Aristeia
(3) - skitter30, Ausuka,
DragonEater70


Not voting (2) - Aristeia, Datisi

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 to reach a majority.
In post 472, heipizhu4 in Another Newbie Game wrote:
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(ELIMINATED): KittyTacky,
Dunnstral
, Dannflor, Gamma Emerald
kinda yeah, i think multiball in particular makes it harder to win by just being towny af and powering through lims.

i like where nurse is going though - people who have fought against now-scum flips are worth shining a light on
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Post Post #7302 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:38 pm

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y u no make bbmolla nice green color

smh smh fr fr
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Post Post #7303 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:39 pm

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In post 7301, the worst wrote: i like where nurse is going though - people who have fought against now-scum flips are worth shining a light on
So are you saying Nurse is right in pushing you? :upside_down:
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Post Post #7304 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:40 pm

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So don't pay attention to associations when it comes to voting?
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Post Post #7305 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:40 pm

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In post 7300, the worst wrote: myself who i townread
That made me laugh

confession: I only started laughing AFTER writing it made me laugh though.
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Post Post #7306 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:42 pm

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i'm on the phone, i'm like 30% present rn
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Post Post #7307 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:42 pm

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In post 7304, Random Nurse wrote: So don't pay attention to associations when it comes to voting?
I did not say that at all

But fighting tooth and nail againt an obvious lim is a practice most scum players try to avoid. I know JV did it in Mini 2311, but that's because they knew they'd be mech guiltied if Ducky flipped (which they were), so it's a bit unusual.
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Post Post #7308 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:44 pm

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In post 7303, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 7301, the worst wrote: i like where nurse is going though - people who have fought against now-scum flips are worth shining a light on
So are you saying Nurse is right in pushing you? :upside_down:
the read is wrong but the theory has merit. i am in the poe, i wouldn't be surprised if someone views me as a misyeet prospect, i am a good player to shine a light on
In post 7304, Random Nurse wrote: So don't pay attention to associations when it comes to voting?
definitely pay attention to associatives. just keep them in context.
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Post Post #7309 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:45 pm

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In post 7305, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 7300, the worst wrote: myself who i townread
That made me laugh

confession: I only started laughing AFTER writing it made me laugh though.
the confession made me laugh because hard same
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Post Post #7310 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:47 pm

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I guess my theory with multiball is that scum will treat their partners roughly the same as singleball, but with the added risk that they *know* someone out there can shoot their team at any point

scum can also sound absolutely genuine and *be* absolutely genuine because they are scumhunting. but they are selectively scumhunting, where town are unconditionally scumhunting.

there's differences to singleball & differences between alignments they're just all very different to a standard x:y game of mafia
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Post Post #7311 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:48 pm

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camera pans out, we can see a duck descend the soap box
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Post Post #7312 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:49 pm

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In post 7300, the worst wrote: and snivy who i do not townread.
Can you elaborate on your Snivy read?

In post 7300, the worst wrote: there were people arguing against the enchant lim but they honestly largely seemed to be arguing in earnest?
Why is this relevant? We know for sure none of the people arguing against Enchant lim are scum since we know 2 dead scum of each team. So obviously Enchant can't be teamed with any of the living players if they are scum.

EBWOP:
In post 7309, the worst wrote:
In post 7305, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 7300, the worst wrote: myself who i townread
That made me laugh

confession: I only started laughing AFTER writing it made me laugh though.
the confession made me laugh because hard same
lol.
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Post Post #7313 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:49 pm

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EBWOP was supposed to be pedit

Oh well.
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Post Post #7314 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:53 pm

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I have no idea clue how to read Snivy. Like this is not his scum meta (he's not frozen and he's posting pretty freely) but I feel like I expect more insightful reads from town!snivy. I did a really quick associative dig and came up with a big ol' shrug. I can deep dive and come out with a case one way or the other if we want but literally nothing would surprise me and I just think I'm more interested in doing other things at the moment.

The people arguing in earnest are more important to answering your question, than to reading Enchant right now. Like in the heat of that moment it already felt like they were arguing in earnest.
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Post Post #7315 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:55 pm

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Now looking back it's an "I guess if Enchant had a partner there it's gob who's just kind of agreeing with the people who were already arguing in earnest" kinda deal which isn't exactly a silver bullet. But my feeling later that day, especially after that vc, was that Enchant didn't feel like someone was lookin out for them.
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Post Post #7316 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:56 pm

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In post 7314, the worst wrote: I have no idea clue how to read Snivy. Like this is not his scum meta (he's not frozen and he's posting pretty freely) but I feel like I expect more insightful reads from town!snivy. I did a really quick associative dig and came up with a big ol' shrug. I can deep dive and come out with a case one way or the other if we want but literally nothing would surprise me and I just think I'm more interested in doing other things at the moment.
This also puzzles me.
In post 7314, the worst wrote: The people arguing in earnest are more important to answering your question, than to reading Enchant right now. Like in the heat of that moment it already felt like they were arguing in earnest.
WDYM?

Pedit I see

So you think Shadow is last blue scum?
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Post Post #7317 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:59 pm

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In post 7316, DragonEater70 wrote: So you think Shadow is last blue scum?
he's my best suspect for blue right now, i think enchant is my wildcard there.
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Post Post #7318 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:04 pm

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actually i'm not even sure i exclude shadd from being redscum

that's probably my best "next time i have a bunch of time" project. i'm about to play d&d so i'll be away for the better part of the evening.
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Post Post #7319 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:11 pm

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Quick Gob ISO:
In post 6731, gob wrote:
In post 6723, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 6714, gob wrote:
In post 6711, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 6704, gob wrote: If not you then one of these is probably the wolf teammate with dave
Do you actually think I can be Dave's teammate when I have been the one leading the wagon on him?
You have not been leading shit dude lol, I have been the one leading the dave wagon.

And yea its possible Dave told you to bus him since he knows he won't be around for long.
yeah this post isn't a towny post

also I'm not sure how you've been leading the dave wagon
??? I was the one who pushed Dave yesterday. I have definitely been the most vocal person against dave.
LOL
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In post 6732, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 6731, gob wrote:??? I was the one who pushed Dave yesterday. I have definitely been the most vocal person against dave.
Your ISO checks out

good catch
The better catch was Dragon Eater as scum with dave. Dave told Dragon to bus them.
Even more LOL.
In post 6870, gob wrote: I just did this with the T3 iso so I may have missed a quick vote unvote but I think that's more accurate anyway.

Blue Mafia

CatScratchFever: Enchant(ZZZX)->
Hu Tao
->
iamveryhappy
|
Hu Tao
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StD
-> No Vote -> davesaz || Enchant -> davesaz

Red Mafia

Klazam:
Flavor Leaf
->
Hu Tao
-> No Vote ->
CSF



Okay, I actually can see why people think Enchant is scummy. I think this looks a lot like mafia distancing from CSF.
I don't think this is distancing, I think this is shading meant to somehow look towny / create an alternative wagon.
In post 6872, gob wrote:
In post 6211, gob wrote: bbmolla and dave is prob maf v maf
interesting.

Okay, I think the teams are

Naerys + Dave
Enchant + bbmolla

@shaddowez
@davesaz
@Enchant
@bbmolla
@naerys
@pisskop

What you guys think?
Crackpot: tagged shadow because felt scum partner needs to interact as a way to distance.
In post 6889, gob wrote:
In post 6874, shaddowez wrote: That's a very....strange.....list of people to ask about your scumteams also - you're asking the 4 people you're listing if they think they're scum and then me and pisskop, while completely ignoring at least 3 other players....why those specific ats?
I wanted to see it from everyone I listed + whoever I could think of off the top of my head.

Just for reactions.
Yeah this feels like a forced interaction.
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Post Post #7320 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:11 pm

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Duck it, I think I will just hammer because I have some real life things to do and I don't see a point dragging this out

Any opposition to me hammering?
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Post Post #7321 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:15 pm

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i was about to drop a preliminary readlist before i started going into more detail

idk. like shaddow's reads are really underdeveloped and i don't think there's a way to develop them in this gamestate (yeetlo-1??) which would make my read on him dramatically change? but insight from him would be pretty useful?
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Post Post #7322 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:15 pm

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In post 6872, gob wrote:
In post 6211, gob wrote: bbmolla and dave is prob maf v maf
interesting.

Okay, I think the teams are

Naerys + Dave
Enchant + bbmolla

@shaddowez
@davesaz
@Enchant
@bbmolla
@naerys
@pisskop

What you guys think?
dude deadass just asked naerys, dave, enchant & molla if they thought they themselves were scum and didn't even @ me

why the heck did he @ pisskop and shaddowez???

i don't know if i'm offended or confused
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Post Post #7323 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:16 pm

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i didn't pay much attention to the @s last time i'm like belatedly offended
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Post Post #7324 (ISO) » Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:22 pm

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Fine

intent to hammer


I won't hammer until the worst posts their readlist and shadow posts some game developing content.

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