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[shaddowez]

Ugh, missed p-edits. That was aimed at

i don't think i would usually go all out on doing that to a scum partner, maybe i would do it to a townie as scum

[shaddowez]

Like, all the "I would only do x against town" arguments this game are ridiculous considering it's multi-ball, and other scum are basically town to the opposing team

[Enchant]

Dragon got rapid exactly when he learned that i may dislike him so there's that.

[Naerys]

being survivalistic

not sure if enchant play could be called this tbh
but the reversed psychology manipulation attempt was kinda nasty

[shaddowez]

I've been potentially reading both Snivy and Enchant as blue scum, which can't be the case. Looking at associations (my reads were based off Enchant/gob and Snivy/CSF), the latter seems the more likely to me.

[camelCasedSnivy]

How does this even make sense, regardless of the rest of your sentence?

they *wouldnt know

[camelCasedSnivy]

Ugh, missed p-edits. That was aimed at

i don't think i would usually go all out on doing that to a scum partner, maybe i would do it to a townie as scum

so the read is just NAI then

[DragonEater70]

Dragon got rapid exactly when he learned that i may dislike him so there's that.

Oh cool

THanks for the read

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

You make no sense.

[the worst]

Related to the above post, I'm not surprised I'm getting wagoned. What is surprising is the people hopping on and just accepting the super weak cases that are being presented. For example, worst is using the fact that I have "weak reads". I play and solve my own way, and haven't provided many reads at all this game except for when I've voted people. To say I have weak reads would be fair if I had reads to base that off of, but I'm not sure how reads I haven't actually given can be weak.

Similarly, Naerys accused my vote on RN to be opportunistic. Most of the game he's been TR, and there were no votes on him at the time I voted. There's little to no chance of him actually getting limmed, so I'm not sure how it was opportunistic. She could have called it an OMGUS (it wasn't, I put reasons in my post where I voted him), but at least it would have been a sensical argument, whereas opportunistic isn't.

I'm trying to see you but you're mischaracterising the reason I scumread you here rather than trying to help us solve.

You don't need strong reads. I haven't had confident reads for most of this game! When I'm looking for town, I'm looking for idiosyncratic reads with a believable thought process behind them. I just haven't seen enough of that thought process from you. It's not that your reads lack confidence or strength, it's that they feel like they were plucked out of thin air and I haven't seen you evaluate them as much as I'd need to have you as confident town.

[the worst]

This is still a huge list, but my based on vote placements I'ma bet scum lies in here:

bob3141

,

davesaz

, camelCasedSnivy,

Save the Dragons

,

Cat Scratch Fever

,

Aisa

,

BBMolla

, the worst

Looking back at this, I don't think Snivy and worst are both scum anymore, but definitely think at least one (*cough*Snivy*cough*) is.

This is another good conversation point - what's changed for you over the last 3000ish posts? Unless you think me + snivy is the solve, where have your reads developed? Who's absolutely town from your perspective?

[the worst]

all the bunch of things shadow said

VOTE: enchant

talk to me about this one?

He is certainly much more easier target to go after than Dragon, for example.

Uhhhhh what

Random Nurse BITES when you vote him

I normally just snarl angrily and hope enough people TR me to not get limmed.

In the context of this game I agree with Naerys (nobody is voting you without a pretty good case Dragon). Broadly though yeah, if I was risking a game on RN being elimable, I would be assuming I'd lose that game

[the worst]

I will say, if there's enough belief that I'm scum, it makes more sense to lim me today than tomorrow though:

If I'm scum: 6/1/1

Today:

Mislim (not me), no x-kills: 3/1/1 .

Tomorrow:

Lim scum!me, 1 kill, 2/1 (Kingmaker)

Today:

Lim scum!me, 1 kill, 4/1, get an extra day.

If I'm town: 6/1/1

Today:

Mislim (not me), no x-kills: 3/1/1.

Tomorrow:

mislim town!me, 2 kills, scum win (unless they miraculously both x-kill).

Today:

Mislim (town!me), no x-kills: 3/1/1.

Tomorrow:

Hope you get scum, or in the same boat as above.

In a worst case scenario, If I'm town, a mislim on me tomorrow instead of today loses the game. If I'm scum, you get at least one more day but it's a better chance if you lim me today. Either way, if you're determined that I'm

a

lim, make it today so that we still have a chance.

To re-contextualise this maths, assuming 3:3:x

d6 - 1:1:6 misyeet anyone
n6 - 1:1:5 scum shoot for town
d7 - 1:1:3 elo

---

d6 - 1:1:6 we hit scum
n6 - 1:6
d7 - 1:5
d8 - 1:4
n8 - 1:3
d9 - 1:2 elo


so no, like, if you are town this defeatist argument isn't really feasible. we are heavily incentivised to hit scum now.

[the worst]

I really dont want to imagine a world where naery is scum here.

I think Id believe dragon is scum before naery

Dragon has like some tiny redscum equity, and zero bluescum equity. Naerys has neither. Agreed basically

Neither of them are scum. Probably. Just putting it out there

[the worst]

You make no sense.

From an outside pov I see why Dragon voted you there. He asked for your read on him. You are the only dissenting voice if you scumread him, which is highly important. You gave a vague non-response, which looked like cognitive dissonance --

1) You aren't convinced Dragon is town (this is a big deal bc everyone else is convinced)
2) You aren't bothered to go into your read (you don't see it as a big deal)

I don't know if this is exactly how Dragon reasoned it, but from my pov I was confused about the idea that you could have both of those thoughts at the same time

[the worst]

Btw in the high unlikelyhood that pisskop is scum we are lost already. I am so deep in pocket there

i keep falling back into this.

like, every time i meaningfully dig into pisskop i'm just convinced he's town. i don't think he's aligned with flipped blue scum and i'm not really feeling him for redscum either.

[Enchant]

d6 - 1:1:6 we hit scum
n6 - 1:6
d7 - 1:5
d8 - 1:4
n8 - 1:3
d9 - 1:2 elo

I saw this and could't resist to point that you are wrong.

We elim scum D6:
d6 6vs1vs1
n6 6vs1
d7 5vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n7 4vs1
d8 3vs1
Forced skip forcing mafia to kill someone, to shred poe. It's not town aimed kill.
n8 3vs1
d9 2vs1. (Mislim chance wasted)
n9 1vs1. Lose.

2 Mislim chances.

If we elim town and mafia shot other maf:
d6 6vs1vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n6 5vs1vs1
d7 4vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n7 3vs1
d8 2vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)

3 mislims chances.

Now if we elim town but mafia shot townies:
d6 6vs1vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n6: 5vs1vs1
d7 3vs1vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n7 2vs1vs1

Still two chances, one of which wasted today. Outcome depends on kills but it's probably still lose.


Eliming me is fine, we lose nothing and gain much, just don't PRETEND you have case on me like i am survivalisting or other trash you probably taked from random mafia wiki.
I know i will be mislimmed sooner or later, if so i want to pick when. So be so kindly, if you don't vote me today, you won't bother me with "Enchant is mufia" bullshit later on because only answer you receive is "you lost your chance".


Also wtf where my jester wincon.

[Random Nurse]

Gonna take a quick look at the past hammers.

[Naerys]

Bruh i am so thoroughly confused that idk whom to vote anymore

[Random Nurse]

Day 1 VC 16:

iamveryhappy

(12 [HAMMERED]):

Cat Scratch Fever

,

TemporalLich

, Enchant/ZZZX,

furtiveglance

,

Save The Dragons

,

Aisa

,

BBmolla

,

davesaz

,

Flavor Leaf

, camelCasedSnivy,

Doctor Drew

, Naerys
Enchant/ZZZX (3): the worst, Random Nurse, pisskop

Cat Scratch Fever

(3):

Shrek

,

Klazam

,

Hu Tao

BBMolla

(1):

Psyche

Psyche

(1):

JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA. 2 AM VC’s are the best VC’s!

___

Day 2 VC 7:

Psyche

(11 [ELIMINATED]): Random Nurse, pisskop,

JacksonVirgo

,

furtiveglance

, Naerys,

TemporalLich

, bob3141,

davesaz

,

Hu Tao

, camelCasedSnivy,

Save the Dragons

Hu Tao

(6):

Cat Scratch Fever

,

Aisa

,

BBMolla

, the worst,

Flavor Leaf

,

Psyche

the worst (1):

Shrek

Not voting (2): Enchant/ZZZX, shaddowez

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2023-09-29 09:08:00)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate and 10 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES: JacksonVirgo is V/LA

___

Day 3 VC 16:

Save the Dragons

(8 [HAMMER]): Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy, Enchant, Naerys,

Aisa

,

furtiveglance

,

TemporalLich

, Bob

davesaz

(3):

Cat Scratch Fever

, the worst,

BBmolla

camelCasedSnivy (3): shaddowez,

Save The Dragons

,

davesaz

Naerys (2):

JacksonVirgo

, bob3141

Not voting (1):

gob

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2023-10-03 21:50:00)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES:

___

Day 4 VC 7:

Cat Scratch Fever

(8 [HAMMERED]): bob3141,

furtiveglance

, shaddowez, Random Nurse, pisskop, camelCasedSnivy,

davesaz

,

TemporalLich

davesaz

(5):

gob

, Enchant,

Cat Scratch Fever

,

BBmolla

, the worst

BBmolla

(1): Naerys

Not voting (0):

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2023-10-15 09:54:00).

With 14 alive it takes 8 to eliminate and 7 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES:

___

Day 5 VC 8:

davesaz

(6 [HAMMERED]): the worst, camelCasedSnivy,

TemporalLich

, shaddowez, DragonEater70, Enchant

gob

(1):

davesaz

Naerys (1): Random Nurse
camelCasedSnivy (1): pisskop

Not voting (2):

gob

, Naerys

Day 5 will end in (expired on 2023-10-23 18:28:00).

With 11 alive it takes 6 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES:

[the worst]

d6 - 1:1:6 we hit scum
n6 - 1:6
d7 - 1:5
d8 - 1:4
n8 - 1:3
d9 - 1:2 elo

I saw this and could't resist to point that you are wrong.

We elim scum D6:
d6 6vs1vs1
n6 6vs1
d7 5vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n7 4vs1
d8 3vs1
Forced skip forcing mafia to kill someone, to shred poe. It's not town aimed kill.
n8 3vs1
d9 2vs1. (Mislim chance wasted)
n9 1vs1. Lose.

2 Mislim chances.

If we elim town and mafia shot other maf:
d6 6vs1vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n6 5vs1vs1
d7 4vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n7 3vs1
d8 2vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)

3 mislims chances.

Now if we elim town but mafia shot townies:
d6 6vs1vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n6: 5vs1vs1
d7 3vs1vs1 (Mislim chance wasted)
n7 2vs1vs1

Still two chances, one of which wasted today. Outcome depends on kills but it's probably still lose.


Eliming me is fine, we lose nothing and gain much, just don't PRETEND you have case on me like i am survivalisting or other trash you probably taked from random mafia wiki.
I know i will be mislimmed sooner or later, if so i want to pick when. So be so kindly, if you don't vote me today, you won't bother me with "Enchant is mufia" bullshit later on because only answer you receive is "you lost your chance".


Also wtf where my jester wincon.

oops - I missed a night phase there.
we do still win an extra day if we hit today

[the worst]

Enchant please vote

[Enchant]

VOTE: Snivy

[T3]

Day 6 VC 6:

shaddowez (3): Random Nurse, the worst, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (2): shaddowez, Enchant
Enchant (1): Naerys
Random Nurse (1): pisskop

Not voting (1): DragonEater70

Day 6 will end in (expired on 2023-10-28 21:27:00)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to eliminate and 4 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES: Replacing Skygazer, she hasn't posted in 72 hours. Sorry guys, you're getting a new backup mod. /s

[pisskop]

VOTE: ccs

consolidation