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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:22 am

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In post 478, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 242, Meuh wrote: Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
I don't see anything towny from GE prior to this post.
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In post 63, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Theta Alpine
found scum already
In post 114, Gamma Emerald wrote: Aureal gets a D1 pass
In post 137, Gamma Emerald wrote: I’m down to speedwagon on Broccoli
In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote: I no longer am interested in voting Broccoli

The laid back tone here feels both genuine and town indicative
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:24 am

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In post 487, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 368, Meuh wrote:
I can see the scum me angle
but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me
I feel like scum usually say this more than town because they think it looks noble
True but I'm still town
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:24 am

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In post 500, Meuh wrote:
In post 478, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 242, Meuh wrote: Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
I don't see anything towny from GE prior to this post.
Spoiler:
In post 63, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Theta Alpine
found scum already
In post 114, Gamma Emerald wrote: Aureal gets a D1 pass
In post 137, Gamma Emerald wrote: I’m down to speedwagon on Broccoli
In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote: I no longer am interested in voting Broccoli

The laid back tone here feels both genuine and town indicative
Yeah maybe
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:25 am

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votecount 1.14


Ircher (3) - Hu Tao, Gamma Emerald, Afrayed Knott
Afrayed Knott (3): Andante, HighPrincessErinys, furtiveglance
Titus (2) - Ircher, Aureal
furtiveglance (2) - Meuh, Broccoli Quest 2
Meuh (1) - Doctor Drew
Aureal (1) - Titus

not voting
(1) - Theta Alpine

with thirteen alive, it takes seven votes to be the first one to die. how embarassing! day one ends in (expired on 2023-11-01 17:45:00).
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:25 am

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In post 496, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 477, Meuh wrote: Titus' ISO is also yawn inducing and scummier than yours
Maybe there's merit to a vote on you for the sake of pressure but meh
I'll VOTE: Furtive though
I also don't buy this explanation
I checked your ISO but not Alianna's yesterday for context if that somehow helps
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:26 am

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In post 501, Meuh wrote:
In post 487, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 368, Meuh wrote:
I can see the scum me angle
but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me
I feel like scum usually say this more than town because they think it looks noble
True but I'm still town
I've seen Andante post like that as scum before. The game with Firebringer also scum and it was a scum sweep

Also, what in your eyes made you seem like scum to yourself?
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:30 am

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In post 505, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 501, Meuh wrote:
In post 487, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 368, Meuh wrote:
I can see the scum me angle
but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me
I feel like scum usually say this more than town because they think it looks noble
True but I'm still town
I've seen Andante post like that as scum before. The game with Firebringer also scum and it was a scum sweep

Also, what in your eyes made you seem like scum to yourself?
HPE calling my posting and stance around wanting to end day weird was fair
There's enough weirdness to my gameplay (that while I think is probably outdone by towniness) that I can see people reasonably come to the conclusion of me being scum based off of.
Andante's posting is town indicative (like mine), but lacks the weirdness that made me stick out around there, so an Andante scumread felt harder to understand
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:34 am

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In post 494, Doctor Drew wrote: Why are people voting Furt?
Same reason you voted Alianna, and it hasn't really gotten better since then.
In post 499, furtiveglance wrote: I read 172 and was about to quote it and say this is scummy before I realised I was Alianna's slot.
I... do appreciate the fact it's funny. In fact it made me chuckle out loud.


Fineeee I won't scumread you for that! But I will keep scumreading you for other things!


For instance, Mr. Sailor
Moon
Swift, can you explain how this is not just a blatant attempt to get TR'd?
In post 497, furtiveglance wrote: Broccoli Quest 2 - town.
HighPrincessErinys - town, agreed with a lot of posts here.
Doctor Drew - town by meta and direction of travel (i.e. agrees with my takes)
Hu Tao - town. Liked both streams of posts so far
Theta Alpine - town. A level of depth to posting about reads that I didn't see from scum!Rautherdir in Conception (hope talking about alt metas is ok)


Ircher - unsure. Scum by posts (as ever?) but town by VCA?
Andante - unsure. Not a priority vote at the moment but I am wary of what I saw as a scattergun approach to votes/scumreads.
Gamma Emerald - unsure. Wallflower act is meta typical but harder to read, hopefully GE gets into a more direct discussion at some point soon.
Titus - unsure. Tonally different from scumgame but voting is a little strange.
Aureal - unsure. Tonally seems town and just like past towngames but not packing enough of a punch to be a TR just yet.


Meuh - scum based on posting and voting. I don't get the TRs here at all.
Afrayed Knott - scum. Vote priority urgent.
I feel this has barely any effort put into it (and I feel mean saying that if you did put effort into it, sorry). Like anyone could come up with me/HT/DD being town and the rest of the reads feel surface level-ey if not outright fake:
Which posts of HPE do you agree with? I don't feel it voiced much opinions this game (it mainly said that it was unsure about a bunch of things iirc)
And are you seriously putting Knott as your top scumread based on his whack entrance?
How is Ircher town by VCA and scum by posts?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:41 am

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In post 500, Meuh wrote:
In post 478, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 242, Meuh wrote: Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
I don't see anything towny from GE prior to this post.
Spoiler:
In post 63, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Theta Alpine
found scum already
In post 114, Gamma Emerald wrote: Aureal gets a D1 pass
In post 137, Gamma Emerald wrote: I’m down to speedwagon on Broccoli
In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote: I no longer am interested in voting Broccoli

The laid back tone here feels both genuine and town indicative
In post 501, Meuh wrote:
In post 487, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 368, Meuh wrote:
I can see the scum me angle
but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me
I feel like scum usually say this more than town because they think it looks noble
True but I'm still town
In post 506, Meuh wrote:
In post 505, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 501, Meuh wrote:
In post 487, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 368, Meuh wrote:
I can see the scum me angle
but Andante is one of the only people solving here and said solving looks townie to me
I feel like scum usually say this more than town because they think it looks noble
True but I'm still town
I've seen Andante post like that as scum before. The game with Firebringer also scum and it was a scum sweep

Also, what in your eyes made you seem like scum to yourself?
HPE calling my posting and stance around wanting to end day weird was fair
There's enough weirdness to my gameplay (that while I think is probably outdone by towniness) that I can see people reasonably come to the conclusion of me being scum based off of.
Andante's posting is town indicative (like mine), but lacks the weirdness that made me stick out around there, so an Andante scumread felt harder to understand
Okay I'm gonna be a cauliflower for a second and say:

ya meuh is town
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:45 am

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hmm

not sure i can voice my meuh town read beyond vibe

as to rautherdirs meta uh
i am not entirely sure my meta can be comparable to rauths but i am not gonna get mad about if you do
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:54 am

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In post 490, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 471, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Okay yeah this one does kinda see now what Drew meant with the Andante/Meuh stuff but either way this one thinks Afrayed is the way to go here.
What do you think of Furtive's takes on this page?
Honestly fairly good? Not super sure about how he's confident on scum!Meuh but Ali was an eh-meh null for me and furtive this one is fine raising to a townread.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:58 am

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Also note to self: ISO Theta and actually acknowledge her posts
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:59 am

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In post 441, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
I'll say that I'm not interested in an Aureal lim today

Titus' posting has gone up a notch and while she's not the towniest town to ever town, I can believe a world where she's town
Incorrect.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:00 am

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Spoiler: Green quote
In post 507, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
In post 494, Doctor Drew wrote: Why are people voting Furt?
Same reason you voted Alianna, and it hasn't really gotten better since then.
In post 499, furtiveglance wrote: I read 172 and was about to quote it and say this is scummy before I realised I was Alianna's slot.
I... do appreciate the fact it's funny. In fact it made me chuckle out loud.


Fineeee I won't scumread you for that! But I will keep scumreading you for other things!


For instance, Mr. Sailor
Moon
Swift, can you explain how this is not just a blatant attempt to get TR'd?
In post 497, furtiveglance wrote: Broccoli Quest 2 - town.
HighPrincessErinys - town, agreed with a lot of posts here.
Doctor Drew - town by meta and direction of travel (i.e. agrees with my takes)
Hu Tao - town. Liked both streams of posts so far
Theta Alpine - town. A level of depth to posting about reads that I didn't see from scum!Rautherdir in Conception (hope talking about alt metas is ok)


Ircher - unsure. Scum by posts (as ever?) but town by VCA?
Andante - unsure. Not a priority vote at the moment but I am wary of what I saw as a scattergun approach to votes/scumreads.
Gamma Emerald - unsure. Wallflower act is meta typical but harder to read, hopefully GE gets into a more direct discussion at some point soon.
Titus - unsure. Tonally different from scumgame but voting is a little strange.
Aureal - unsure. Tonally seems town and just like past towngames but not packing enough of a punch to be a TR just yet.


Meuh - scum based on posting and voting. I don't get the TRs here at all.
Afrayed Knott - scum. Vote priority urgent.
I feel this has barely any effort put into it (and I feel mean saying that if you did put effort into it, sorry). Like anyone could come up with me/HT/DD being town and the rest of the reads feel surface level-ey if not outright fake:
Which posts of HPE do you agree with? I don't feel it voiced much opinions this game (it mainly said that it was unsure about a bunch of things iirc)
And are you seriously putting Knott as your top scumread based on his whack entrance?
How is Ircher town by VCA and scum by posts?

You need to pick a line of attack here. Is it busy work to get townread or is it low effort lazy scumplay? It's neither, because the point of it is to show what my reads are in the hope I'll be judged on them and on subsequent flips. I didn't feel the need to quote every post to justify a read, nor was the idea to put in really deep thoughts to display my own alignment.

I don't think my reads were completely consensus either.

Main thing I like from HPE is the Afrayed scumread.

Ircher is town by VCA because he was E-1 early on D1, and scum by posts because his posts are scummy. Also scummy for lack of posts after E-1.

Putting Afrayed Knott last because I feel confident in this read and I want to underline it to get more votes on him.
isn't just wack, it's really scummy. The 'random' vote is ostentatiously explained, comments about pages and colour are robotically dry, mention of being mislimmed D1 in a previous game is subtle ATE, ends with a plea for a D1 pass just unashamed survivalism.

Subsequent posts are nearly all jokes of some kind, the voting and unvoting of Ircher with no explanation is also best explained by a Scum/Town dynamic there.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:00 am

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In post 512, Ircher wrote:
In post 441, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
I'll say that I'm not interested in an Aureal lim today

Titus' posting has gone up a notch and while she's not the towniest town to ever town, I can believe a world where she's town
Incorrect.
Aaaaaaand do you wanna elaborate why?
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:01 am

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In post 459, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 308, Ircher wrote: I still feel Titus is scum. She had not done anything by the point I voted her other than go over things that had already been hashed out. She has since OMGUSed me, which I get but it doesn't do her any favors in my read, and then offered one small read, so I'm fine leaving my vote there.

I moved away from Broccoli because I thought Broccoli's more recent posts were better. I didn't really like their mason stuff at the beginning of the game; it felt like the kind of thing scum does to joke around and look town which is why I voted there in the first place, but Broccoli has shown earnest attempt to solve the game since.
I agree that broccoli is town. I'm not sure I buy the Titus read, though. Is the 'omgus' the only reason?
The OMGUS was and is not the primary reason for the read.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:01 am

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In post 509, Theta Alpine wrote: hmm

not sure i can voice my meuh town read beyond vibe

as to rautherdirs meta uh
i am not entirely sure my meta can be comparable to rauths but i am not gonna get mad about if you do
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:06 am

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In post 514, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 512, Ircher wrote:
In post 441, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:
I'll say that I'm not interested in an Aureal lim today

Titus' posting has gone up a notch and while she's not the towniest town to ever town, I can believe a world where she's town
Incorrect.
Aaaaaaand do you wanna elaborate why?
Titus's posting hasn't improved.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:09 am

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ircher can you pretty please give me like, a read list or something
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:10 am

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Town

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Andante

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Everyone not listed.

Scum

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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:12 am

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In post 243, Ircher wrote: VOTE: Titus
In post 308, Ircher wrote: I still feel Titus is scum. She had not done anything by the point I voted her other than go over things that had already been hashed out. She has since OMGUSed me, which I get but it doesn't do her any favors in my read, and then offered one small read, so I'm fine leaving my vote there.

I moved away from Broccoli because I thought Broccoli's more recent posts were better. I didn't really like their mason stuff at the beginning of the game; it felt like the kind of thing scum does to joke around and look town which is why I voted there in the first place, but Broccoli has shown earnest attempt to solve the game since.
I feel like this kind of comes out of nowhere from Ircher. Yes there was a preceding vote, but it wasn't explained, so I assume the logic was just deferring to the post quoted below (which came directly before):
In post 242, Meuh wrote: Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there

VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
I'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by
someone
while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:15 am

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It was similar in spirit.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:28 am

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In post 246, Titus wrote: VOTE: Ircher

Going to OMGUS a vote for some VCA too.
Was this the offending post?
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:14 pm

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In post 489, Broccoli Quest 2 wrote:

In post 444, Gamma Emerald wrote: lolwut
I think you forgot I'm a broccoli for a second there.

No
I just think it’s odd you want someone else to start a fresh wagon rather than doing it yourself.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:18 pm

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In post 519, Ircher wrote: Town

Broccoli
Andante

Null

Everyone not listed.

Scum

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vrej

Btw I feel decent about furrtive rn
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