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[Prism]

I think it's such a niche and unlikely scenario to happen that most people would commit at that point?

If my reads are so wrong that we reach day 4 and Imag and Ydra are the revealed scum I'd be fine just calling it an L at that point

I don't even think that is so unlikely. It's just too hard to actively scumread them for what they've posted. I would be very surprised if Titus, camel, imaginality, Dragons, Ydrasse, Andres only had one scum.

[jjh927]

I'm not saying it's unlikely just that those two are scum- although I am quite confident in Ydrasse town right now. I also have a high enough opinion of myself that I'm factoring in that this scenario only occurs if we mislim today and day 3 as well which compounds it all further

[Shirou]

I was ready for the Frenzy and just really shaky on Titus but willing to overlook it.

While waiting for StD I've been wondering how much I should trust Titus to be town and something really weird came up while digging stuff.

I want to discuss stuff at length though because I've more than say other than the Titus' stuff, so @Prism could you please unvote?

[Shirou]

I think I die tonight if I get any more towny than I'm right now so I just want to say everything that's been on my mind I guess

I was gonna wait for StD but not sure anymore

[jjh927]

UNVOTE:

You do your thing. I'm resigned to the fact that because I said the lines earlier and now you're spamming them that I'm basically mary

[jjh927]

I don't see you dying tonight, Shirou

The first two nights are skipped.

[Shirou]

I don't see you dying tonight, Shirou

The first two nights are skipped.

For some reason I thought that if we miseliminated two days in a row scum got both an escape and a nightkill, and I'm starting to be unsure again of who is scum so not confident on us hitting them today (I was coming up to Imaginality has to be scum before the last minutes)

[Shirou]

When I posted the above, I had found this:

i mean now we play the game

what's more likely

mr. ircher just guessed the ratio or he's a very informed doggo

Why suppose he's right?

Dude's not town but I hate slip arguments

I got a bit too excited and forgot to check if she was scum, and unhappily, she was so it's not as damning. But If I go even further back, I found this when she was town too:

So, it's snow, Fred and ydrasse to you? What if I told you Fred is my other confident TR??

P-edit: But what about his slip? (assuming no daytalk & asking about it)

I don't believe in slips.

Also, you didn't listen about EE.

[Shirou]

@Titus can you give me a game(s) where you actually believed in a scum slip?

What exactly *is* your philosophy on scum slips?

[Shirou]

a scum!Titus world is rather bizarre to me then if one of her partners isn't Firebringer at least

I could see scum!Fire hard bussing his partner from D1 like he did in our last game together w/ his buddy Andante (me town vs him scum)

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

You do your thing. I'm resigned to the fact that because I said the lines earlier and now you're spamming them that I'm basically mary

but mary didn't even recognize he was copying her!

[Shirou]

This game is really weird to solve. You guys scum post way too much and the remaining people are kinda lurking.

I also have stuff to say about Imaginality/JJH.

[jjh927]

There is definitely theoretical play somewhere with fooling a particular scum into thinking they are safe so they don't leave in the event of a mislim, and then coming into day 3 with an incredible and super convincing mega case on them

[jjh927]

Or like, if we leave a big and commonly acknowledged 1V1 unresolved and go elsewhere then if we mislim scum might decide they have to bail out, thereby resolving it for us

whereas if you get the 1V1 wrong the first time then you come out of it with basically nothing

[Shirou]

Titus's theory of the game.

Alisae is town or working for the scumteam accidentally. I fear the latter.

Ydrasse is scum fearing a revitalization of the game.

The vote on "patchwork" can only be explained by him reading the scum PT and it not having been updated.

This suggests most of the active posters are town as active posters would have alerted Ydrasse to the fact I was not lurkerbait anymore.

Ydrasse's reaction is precisely what I'd expect from scum losing a beard.

Based on this I suspect StD town.

This was the initial "Ydrasse slipped" post and it feels so fucking INSANE to someone that's apparently skeptical of slips.

Even if you say "This time I just think scum slipped for real", the "can ONLY be explained by a slip" is so weird when Ydrasse can just...not have read the game too closely?

It's like, a trivial explanation that's entirely dismissed and it only makes sense if believing in dubious slips is usual behavior for Titus but that does not seem to be the case.

[Shirou]

so now it's official guys...

[Shirou]

THE FRENZY HAS BEGUN

RUN IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE

THE MOON IS RED

WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME

[Shirou]

Is this HYPE and FRENZIED enough for you Fire??

A potential "real slip"???

[Shirou]

This game is a mess. I can't try and clean it up this weekend, not that I could if I tried.

I don't care for self meta and being lied to in order to get my vote. If Shirou is town, it's a long time before I play with him again.

This is the unique thing that keeps me thinking

"Is she really scum? It cannot be...

Did she actually lie about that sort of stuff...?"

[jjh927]

Honestly Shirou that's that kind of thing I'd have loved to see on day 3 when it would for sure win us the game

[Shirou]

Actually it didn't hit me until now to save it until D3

and I also believed I could be NK'd for misunderstanding the setup

But I think if Titus is scum, unless Imaginality is a partner she would have escaped too tonight

[Shirou]

Somewhere in my heart I feel like Titus emotional posting is...town??

Ugh I hate this game

[jjh927]

If there is ever a case for extremely sneaky and bad faith townplay in mafia as a game, it is day 2 of this setup

But yeah thinking the NK was possible is probably the big thing

[Shirou]

If there is ever a case for extremely sneaky and bad faith townplay in mafia as a game, it is day 2 of this setup

What do you exactly mean by this?

Are you trying to shade me...?

[jjh927]

Somewhere in my heart I feel like Titus emotional posting is...town??

Ugh I hate this game

I've felt it too but it can only go so far. If I'm honest with myself, voting Camel was strongly influenced by how I just really don't want to be wrong on Titus right now and progressing something else might help that future situation. At this moment though I really don't think I'm wrong